6- 600 watt grow room setup . Need advice from seasoned growers .

Hey y'all,
10x13 grow room
6-600 hps lights with dimmable ballasts
Air cooled tubes
8 inch 745 cfm pulling hot air from top of room
2-6 inch 475 blowing air from room ( with possibility of pulling air from outside but won't if I can get away with it . One from top of room another with carbon filter from bottoms.
At104 as a timer
There is a large A.C. big enough for the room that will go in the corner .
Also there will be a dehumidifier.
I'm waiting on an electrician so can't give it a test run yet . Would love input and advice from seasoned growers So if I run into heat temp or any other unforeseen issues .
2 Large air kings circulating air .
Room is sealed with 2 layers of Poly . I used 6 rolls of white duct tape to seal everything lol .
So questions on will this give me heat issues ? Or with what I have on hand how would you do it different . Again I'm waiting on electrician to hook up power to my t104 . Will keep y'all posted in the trial runs .

I like what you are doing. Some thoughts: Those ballast are going to throw a lot of heat. Better out side the space with a fan blowing on them. The black pipe is rippled. It would be better to have smooth pipe. Get rid of the sags. Avoid long pipe runs.These things are creating friction and slows down air flow. I switched to 6"stove pipe. I mention this because you have three lights hooked in a row. The third one on the end is getting the hot air from the last two. Get a datalogger like a Sensorpush! it will help you dial your room in and send you alerts when temps or humidity are out of acceptable range.

Will definitely adjust pipe length for sure .
The ballast are all fan air cooled and because of not better planning , sadly they will have to stay in the room . I hope with the Ac it will do the trick worst case I will cut another hole for fresh air running through the lights.... hopefully I don't.
Money is tight. Pretty much went brought my budget and the room is within a room just framed and mylared too shit.
Will let you know how the first trial run is with temp. In future will def look into getting that gizmo for temp and humidity sensors. Again ... money is gone .

I understand about money being tight. I would still consider framing a box 16" in front of the ballasts and cover it with mylar. Run the wires under the plastic. Cut out plastic inside the box to ventilate.

What btu is your a/c
Your plan is to run it as a sealed room yes?

subwoofers said:

What btu is your a/c
Your plan is to run it as a sealed room yes?

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I have an 8000 and a 14000 Kenmore .
I'm hoping to get away with just the 14000 .
I kind of want it sealed , but it won't be a true sealed room with all that cfm exhausting . From 3 inline fans .

Jaybodankly said:

I understand about money being tight. I would still consider framing a box 16" in front of the ballasts and cover it with mylar. Run the wires under the plastic. Cut out plastic inside the box to ventilate.

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I will build a box over the ballasts, what do you mean about exhausting it .
6 inch bore hole and have it exhausting out , not sure if the built in fans will push enough ait through it. How would you build it ?

Mr Awesome said:

I have an 8000 and a 14000 Kenmore .
I'm hoping to get away with just the 14000 .
I kind of want it sealed , but it won't be a true sealed room with all that cfm exhausting . From 3 inline fans .

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well there is your first mistake, you don't vent an a/c'd room, you either vent, or you a/c. pick one. I don't think your 14kbut will do 3600w of light, you would need around 20k btu minimum

@ subwoofer I think what he has done is separated lights from the growroom with aircooled tubes. The three fans move air thru the three lengths of 6" tubes. The rest of the air in the room will be sealed and cooled with A/C. An interesting approach. Build a box around the ballasts. So they are separated from the growroom without moving them. Once the box is sealed around the ballast remove mylar material on the backside so they get air from outside the grow space.

Jaybodankly said:

@ subwoofer I think what he has done is separated lights from the growroom with aircooled tubes. The three fans move air thru the three lengths of 6" tubes. The rest of the air in the room will be sealed and cooled with A/C. An interesting approach. Build a box around the ballasts. So they are separated from the growroom without moving them. Once the box is sealed around the ballast remove mylar material on the backside so they get air from outside the grow space.

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Yesssss! I think I get it know. After it's up remove Mylar from.inner framing for air flow . Awesome idea brother .

I'm hoping getting away with 1AC .
After lights and test I'll know.


Also wondering if I generate enough cool air can i save myself boring another hole for intake to lights?
Have it pulling from top and bottom .
21000 btu. Is that possible ? I'll have control dial for all inline fans to fine tune with everything .

One of the inch fans has a giant carbon filter at topf of room with control dial and 2 6 inch fans are pushing through the 3 -600 .
Ducting from lights fans and ac are already in . Just need power.


Still not sure which way it'll end up . That's way I'm here getting some ideas.

If you wanted to clean it up a bit. Get a metal rod like rebar and zip tie a whole run to it. Then you only need two cable rachets. One at each end to raise or lower it.

Have you ever run a grow of this size before? I just finished one this size myself for the first time and have a bit of advice for you if I may?

Turn on all of your lights and equipment before putting the plants in there. See how hot things get and how well your air conditioning works.

The reason I say this is because I ran a 4400w grow with 2000w being vented hoods and I still needed both of my 15,000 BTU air conditioners.

This is something I wish I was told or even at least read from someone before I got crazy into this. Had I turned the lights on and tested the room for an hour or so first thing I would have avoided a handful of problems I had for sure.

Hope things go well my man.

kratos015 said:

Have you ever run a grow of this size before? I just finished one this size myself for the first time and have a bit of advice for you if I may?

Turn on all of your lights and equipment before putting the plants in there. See how hot things get and how well your air conditioning works.

The reason I say this is because I ran a 4400w grow with 2000w being vented hoods and I still needed both of my 15,000 BTU air conditioners.

This is something I wish I was told or even at least read from someone before I got crazy into this. Had I turned the lights on and tested the room for an hour or so first thing I would have avoided a handful of problems I had for sure.

Hope things go well my man.

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Hey brother thanks for the input and that is definitely the plan . I'm just waiting on some power and will do some trial runs .
This will be the largest setup for me so far .
I have a 10x8 veg room with a 900 watt led a 4 foot 4 t5 setup .
Also a 10x10 with 2 1000 air cooled.
Only using a bit more than half for that one . Any tips and things I might run into...
Would love to hear .

How was your grow setup ? Vent wise and light position and exhaust ?

Right now mine is pushing with 2 6 inch from bottom and top of room . ( will male another hole from outside if needed and gets too hot with A C in the room)
Cold fresh air pushed through 2 rows of 3 and an 8 inch sucking from top of room .
By the sounds of it ... might have to use fresh air and have both aCS going .

Veg room

Mr Awesome said:

Hey brother thanks for the input and that is definitely the plan . I'm just waiting on some power and will do some trial runs .
This will be the largest setup for me so far .
I have a 10x8 veg room with a 900 watt led a 4 foot 4 t5 setup .
Also a 10x10 with 2 1000 air cooled.
Only using a bit more than half for that one . Any tips and things I might run into...
Would love to hear .

How was your grow setup ? Vent wise and light position and exhaust ?

Right now mine is pushing with 2 6 inch from bottom and top of room . ( will male another hole from outside if needed and gets too hot with A C in the room)
Cold fresh air pushed through 2 rows of 3 and an 8 inch sucking from top of room .
By the sounds of it ... might have to use fresh air and have both aCS going .

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I had 4400w total, 2 1000w lights and 4 600w lights and ran a sealed room with CO2. I was happy with my results overall but things definitely could have been better because I never had experience with a project of this size.

That being said, not only does your set up look legit but it looks so legit that I honestly don't think I could even add any advice or anything. It really does seem like you have things all under control. I don't know your environment or how cold your air is, so perhaps a simple intake with a single AC would work wonders for you. I'm in the desert, so come winter time I can vent cold air in from outside but every other point in time that isn't winter involves me cranking the air conditioning up to full blast.

Your room looks pretty good for sure though from what I'm seeing, as long as you make sure that your temps/humidity/environment is steady and consistent then you should be well on your way to a great harvest for sure! The only thing I could recommend is CO2, you'll use more CO2 than most other growers because you aren't technically in a "sealed" room but if you were somehow able to hold 1000-1200ppm CO2 in your grow room you could get away with having higher temps than normal. When I was running CO2 my girls were loving 80-82 degree temps, but without the CO2 they absolutely hated those temps.

Again though, from what I'm seeing everything looks totally solid. Just get yourself a test run going before the plants actually get in there and see if everything is up to speed, then you should be just fine for sure. Hoping to see a journal when you get things 100% and wishing you the best.

Thanks for the feed back brother . A lot of hard work went into making this happen and im a one man show ... So I don't need to speak in volumes into how many rolls of white duct tape I used . Lol
I live in Canada and have my ACMPR .
The weather her now is cool and winter will be great for my intake . Humidity levels I'll watch though.
I will see have some grow journals in future .
I have some righteous stains picked out .

Mothers
Big Bud x NL
Master Kush
White widow
Black Kush
( just almost 2 months old )

Seedling stage
Critical Kush
Barbara Bud
Pineapple Express
Pink Kush .

I'm hoping everything will be tested and have girls to throw in ... a month give or take. Wouldn't mind vegging clones a little longer , but we shall see .

Time to smoke one .

Good work! I'll be looking out for developments!

Definitely watch temps/humidity, it can be a bitch to control swings esp if AC is not sized properly (this can work for under and over).

You can dial your equipment to wherever you like but other hardware and ambient will play its part. I have an exterior building and outside temp swings of just 5C and mess with my indoor space regardless of where I set the AC, which never has to work particularly hard especially in veg.

Having a data logger that sends you alerts is the most useful tool for dialing a room in. Lots of issues will crop up when you first start a room up. A temp/hum gauge is only useful when you are looking at it. A data logger with a graph of temp/hum over time will tell you when the room got and for how long. Easily the best $50 bucks I spent on grow gear. Made me a better grower than I could be on my own. It is like having a worker who will tell you when something is not right.

Jaybodankly said:

Having a data logger that sends you alerts is the most useful tool for dialing a room in. Lots of issues will crop up when you first start a room up. A temp/hum gauge is only useful when you are looking at it. A data logger with a graph of temp/hum over time will tell you when the room got and for how long. Easily the best $50 bucks I spent on grow gear. Made me a better grower than I could be on my own. It is like having a worker who will tell you when something is not right.

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Data logger is def on the shopping list .
It would help in so many ways and I'm going to see if they have en at my local grow store

Update on second flower room.
1 10x10 grow tent
2 1000 watt air cooled tubes
3 ( maybe 4) 4 foot T5 lights around back and lowered .
1 8 inch 745 cfm inline fan sucking from top of tent ( with carbon filter )and exhausting .
1 6 inch pullingng air from another room in basement and pushing through 2 lights and straight out .
Hardline exhaust started ou5side the tent and ballast are outside the tent this time
This room will be easier to dial in , I'm thinking
Not using the whole 10x10 but I am going to utilise those T5,s and focus on the 10x6-7ish area

No lollipop for thus guy lol .



Thoughts guys ??