6wks into flower, nute burn or def?!

ThinkFresh

New Member
Here's the stats
Indoor, 3'x 2'x 5' tent, a/c intake, two fans, 180cfm blower and carbon filter
Soil, fox farms
4 indicas "Madman" 2 sativas "Frob"

6th week of flower started Thursday
1000 watt Hygro HO LED
Light is about 16 inches above
Tap water, 6.1-6.5 PH, water every 2/4 days depending on weight of pots
General Hydro, Bloom 4-8-7. 1tbs per gal.
Runoff is 5.8-6.2 @3 weeks which is when this started appearing, now everything is @6.4-6.5.
70-72º day, 65-68º night - 35-45% humidity
2.7gal 10" plastic with drains
No bugs
I've done some pretty heavy stress training in veg, tied every branch back, and topped twice (which is why there are so many colas)


This is my first grow, I do understand the space I am growing in is going to limit my yield and I honestly should have only grown 2-3 plants in here. I seem to be having either a bit of nutrients burn or some sort of deficiently and I'm not sure but it's driving me insane. I just want to figure it out before I feed one last time or not. I have water flushed with correct PH the last three weeks to try and balance it out.

I have also noticed leaves yellowing and dying (assuming this is a natural nitro def. that happens during this stage of flowering. Only the lower leaves. I have also noticed some leaves droop and are easily "peeled" off with no resistance. I think this may be caused by overwatering or just because they aren't getting much light and the plant is sending it's energy where it's needed.

The Sativas look beyond great but the indicas are just steadily getting worst. Now that I have only given them correct PH'ed water I am starting to think it is a potassium or phosphorus def because of the spotting and yellowing of the upper leaves. Also all my branches seem to be weak and have trouble holding themselves up, Maybe this is because of the space and they rely on each other to prop up but not sure if it's part of the def. I could use all the help I can get!


I have been researching for weeks now and can't get a solid answer. I have posted on another forum but would like to get some other advice as well.
Thanks for all the advice and I am stoked to see the outcome of this!

Full PH list
6.47 sativa back right
6.42 back middle indica
6.49 back left indica
6.5 front left indica
6.5 front middle indica
6.48 front right sativa

Obviously you can see which pic is sativas (mass bud growth) haha, all the rest are the indica problems, and yes I know, entirely too many for this little space.

 

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bottletoke

Well-Known Member
your only problem is natural and it isnt a problem its called flowering progression. the sooner your flowering cycle comes to its end the plant will look worse and worse each day. your seeing it more on the indicas because the strain your growing is more then likely gonna finish a lot sooner then the sativas will. as for your leaves falling off effortlessly it is more then likely from lack of light. any reason why you choose led over hid? not trying to be a dick but with a 1000w hid youd have a much bigger yield then what your looking at right now....
 

ThinkFresh

New Member
No offense taken, haha. I've also assumed it was natural but figured since I just started the 6th week they still had more time, and the flowering time on this strain of indica says (which obviously can't be taken 100% serious) 9 weeks. Also by the bud growth on the sativas I assumed they would finish before the indicas. Had to go with LED because of the space I am growing in and heat. I don't have anywhere to vent because I am in an apartment currently so it's just venting in the room outside the closet. I just don't want this to affect the buds of the plants and create a harsh smoke ya know?
 

greenlikemoney

Well-Known Member
^^^^^^^^ As stated above, you have NO problem. You have sexy girls who are reaching their maximum potential. Even if you tried to correct a nute problem they would be finished before it even mattered. Keep on truckin' brother, dry and cure properly !!!!! Nice grow !!!!
 

ThinkFresh

New Member
Eeeeeeee! I am excited to see the outcome, just wanna make sure I know what to do next time I run into this, I am going to check the trichome color today when they wake up and see where they stand, I do appreciate the feedback! Thinking I am going to give them 1/4 nutes one last time and then only water for the rest.
 

ThinkFresh

New Member
Well here wer are on the start of week 7! Not looking too bad, buds are filling in a lot. Still kind of shocked its not more for a 1000 watt light but not too bad for my first grow. Also, I gave them the last (and first in a while) nutes on Sunday. From here on out only water.





The ones to the right are 2 sativas (front and back) the rest are all the indicas. I also got some close ups of the trichomes, what's interesting is the indicas are much more amber than the sativas and the indicas have a 9-10 week flowering time and look a lot less developed. But the sativas are still clear and barely even milky. Who knows?! I've heard you can't always tell my trichome color, depends on the strain, I did call and confirm the flower time on the indicas so I am going to keep checking them.


Sativas:
Sativa 4.jpgSativa 3.jpgSativa 2.jpgSativa 1.jpg

Sativa to the right
Sativa right.jpg

Indicas:
Indica 2.jpgIndica1.jpgIndica 4.jpgIndica 3.jpg

All of them!
whole.jpg


 

Bakatare666

Well-Known Member
Well here wer are on the start of week 7! Not looking too bad, buds are filling in a lot. Still kind of shocked its not more for a 1000 watt light but not too bad for my first grow. Also, I gave them the last (and first in a while) nutes on Sunday. From here on out only water.





The ones to the right are 2 sativas (front and back) the rest are all the indicas. I also got some close ups of the trichomes, what's interesting is the indicas are much more amber than the sativas and the indicas have a 9-10 week flowering time and look a lot less developed. But the sativas are still clear and barely even milky. Who knows?! I've heard you can't always tell my trichome color, depends on the strain, I did call and confirm the flower time on the indicas so I am going to keep checking them.


Sativas:
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Sativa to the right
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Indicas:
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All of them!
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Good job.
Is there a question here?
Next time, could you type in bigger letters?
LOL.
I got fucked up eyes.
 

RIKNSTEIN

Well-Known Member
Here's the stats
Indoor, 3'x 2'x 5' tent, a/c intake, two fans, 180cfm blower and carbon filter
Soil, fox farms
4 indicas "Madman" 2 sativas "Frob"

6th week of flower started Thursday
1000 watt Hygro HO LED
Light is about 16 inches above
Tap water, 6.1-6.5 PH, water every 2/4 days depending on weight of pots
General Hydro, Bloom 4-8-7. 1tbs per gal.
Runoff is 5.8-6.2 @3 weeks which is when this started appearing, now everything is @6.4-6.5.
70-72º day, 65-68º night - 35-45% humidity
2.7gal 10" plastic with drains
No bugs
I've done some pretty heavy stress training in veg, tied every branch back, and topped twice (which is why there are so many colas)


This is my first grow, I do understand the space I am growing in is going to limit my yield and I honestly should have only grown 2-3 plants in here. I seem to be having either a bit of nutrients burn or some sort of deficiently and I'm not sure but it's driving me insane. I just want to figure it out before I feed one last time or not. I have water flushed with correct PH the last three weeks to try and balance it out.

I have also noticed leaves yellowing and dying (assuming this is a natural nitro def. that happens during this stage of flowering. Only the lower leaves. I have also noticed some leaves droop and are easily "peeled" off with no resistance. I think this may be caused by overwatering or just because they aren't getting much light and the plant is sending it's energy where it's needed.

The Sativas look beyond great but the indicas are just steadily getting worst. Now that I have only given them correct PH'ed water I am starting to think it is a potassium or phosphorus def because of the spotting and yellowing of the upper leaves. Also all my branches seem to be weak and have trouble holding themselves up, Maybe this is because of the space and they rely on each other to prop up but not sure if it's part of the def. I could use all the help I can get!


I have been researching for weeks now and can't get a solid answer. I have posted on another forum but would like to get some other advice as well.
Thanks for all the advice and I am stoked to see the outcome of this!

Full PH list
6.47 sativa back right
6.42 back middle indica
6.49 back left indica
6.5 front left indica
6.5 front middle indica
6.48 front right sativa

Obviously you can see which pic is sativas (mass bud growth) haha, all the rest are the indica problems, and yes I know, entirely too many for this little space.

They look awesome man, and ya a little too much N, but looking good...and what ^ Bak ^ said bigger font....lol
 

ThinkFresh

New Member
Lmao, I guess my computer set it that way, sorry bout that. This is my phone now so I hope it's bigger. Really I was just replying to to the thread so if someone else came upon it they would have some updated info. Thanks though! Definitely learned a lot this time, think I want to switch nute brand next time around
 

kryptoniteglo

Well-Known Member
Plants look great! +rep to you for that awesome canopy, newbie! What you're seeing, as previously stated by others, is a natural progression. In the last three weeks or so the plant stops pulling energy from the water/soil and starts pulling from the fan leaves. So you get a beautiful fade starting on the upper third of the plant. The colors can end up amazing, depending on the strain. And it's another reason not to cut upper fan leaves. Totally natural -- it means the plant is nearing its time. And as another poster said, you're going to see it first on the plants that are closest to finishing, so the indicas.

Congrats! You should feel really good about what you've accomplished.
 
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