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80x80cm tent, how long vegging?

KonopCh

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Hey guys, I've got couple of fem seeds I want to try. Till now I grown autoflowering strains.
I have 80x80cm tent, around 7 square feet. I will grow 2 plants in 15L coco pots.
So my question is, what is the best method (max yield) to grow and the fastest? Grow naturally, mainlining, top once, top twice etc...?
How long to veg them to fill tent or better say to get at least 300g from 280W COBs. From 2 plants.
 

chemphlegm

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Hey guys, I've got couple of fem seeds I want to try. Till now I grown autoflowering strains.
I have 80x80cm tent, around 7 square feet. I will grow 2 plants in 15L coco pots.
So my question is, what is the best method (max yield) to grow and the fastest? Grow naturally, mainlining, top once, top twice etc...?
How long to veg them to fill tent or better say to get at least 300g from 280W COBs. From 2 plants.

no no, its not training that makes for perfect plants. you start with atmosphere. control your temps, RH, air flow, c02 augmentation.
learn to grow first before you learn to train. growers beginning with yield expectations are the ones that fail most often here. when deciding how long to veg there is more than space to consider. Can you supply all of the necessary resources in a timely manner? thats all that matters. ten plants or one, in the same space no matter, its the difference between more flavors or one.
without any information concerning any of your grow habits or abilities its virtually impossible to guess yields. like what if you had 90 degree temps in your space.....it would fail at achieving your yield expectations. or what if you used fox farms trio, that might seriously reduce your chances of success(lol) or maybe you already have mites and thrips chewing roots...how would we know?

seriously though, I predict you will not yield 1/4 of your expectations in dry finished buds, sorry
 

KonopCh

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no no, its not training that makes for perfect plants. you start with atmosphere. control your temps, RH, air flow, c02 augmentation.
learn to grow first before you learn to train. growers beginning with yield expectations are the ones that fail most often here. when deciding how long to veg there is more than space to consider. Can you supply all of the necessary resources in a timely manner? thats all that matters. ten plants or one, in the same space no matter, its the difference between more flavors or one.
without any information concerning any of your grow habits or abilities its virtually impossible to guess yields. like what if you had 90 degree temps in your space.....it would fail at achieving your yield expectations. or what if you used fox farms trio, that might seriously reduce your chances of success(lol) or maybe you already have mites and thrips chewing roots...how would we know?

seriously though, I predict you will not yield 1/4 of your expectations in dry finished buds, sorry
Please don't write if you don't have an answer. You write a lot, but you didn't say a thing, so please stop. And read my post again.
 

JackSkell

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Please don't write if you don't have an answer. You write a lot, but you didn't say a thing, so please stop. And read my post again.
@KonopCh, he actually gave you more of an answer than you bargained for and the fact that you replied so rudely to it isnt going to make anyone else want to help you.

Fact of the matter is chemphlegm is correct, the training method has little to do with yield, you can get the same amount from mainlining as you can from LST or continuous topping, or any other method, what will make more of a difference is your environment, stable conditions, proper PH, proper feedings, consistent temps, etc etc. Theres a whole lot more to growing than just the training method used on your plants. not only that but you failed to give us the height of your grow space either, how did you expect anyone to suggest one type of training or another when we dont even know how much headspace your tent has? again as chemphlegm suggested you should get a grow bible, maybe you'll learn something that way rather than just getting upset at people on forums who try to help you. good luck with your endeavors.

oh and just a tip: getting 1g per watt is what most growers aim for, and alot of growers never hit that mark, so if you think youre gonna get 300g from a 280w light you obviously have much more to learn than just what training method to use.
 

KonopCh

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I told you I am not a noob in growing so telling stories about enviroment is pretty silly here. Also I am pretty sure topped plant and naturally grown plant in the same veg time will not yield the same due to stress... I already can achieve 280g from my lights with autoflowering plants, just to know.
 

JackSkell

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I told you I am not a noob in growing so telling stories about enviroment is pretty silly here. Also I am pretty sure topped plant and naturally grown plant in the same veg time will not yield the same due to stress... I already can achieve 280g from my lights with autoflowering plants, just to know.
lmao okay child lemme break it down for you: A- you havent said anywhere in the 6 posts on this thread that you are not a noob, so dont tell me you told me something when you didnt jacka$$. B- you obviously are a noob cuz you aint done enough experimenting to know what type of training works best for you like the rest of us have. C- topped plant and naturally grown can absolutely produce the same amount even in the same timeframe, which you would probably know if you wernt the noob that you claim not to be. D- "i already CAN" isnt the same as "i already HAVE" so come back and talk to me after you've actually completed a grow. lmfao.
 

coreywebster

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Given all conditions are perfect a well trained canopy will most of the time increase yield, light depending. I mean someone could grow trees with 1000w hps lights verticals and not need to use training methods. But since most of us don't a well managed canopy will increase yield.

KonopCH I would go for LST due to the speed of veg, less stress, less recovery. Train them to a rectangular canopy. Cany help with time scale as I pop seeds few and far between.
 

coreywebster

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The point of training is to get as much of your plant receiving around the same amount of light levels to create dense buds all though.
I have done a mini scrog along side the same strains unscrogged and topped and grown for the same period. Resulting in 2oz extra from the scrog and zero larf. That's one example of gaining yield due to training. 9.5oz dry and cured in an 18"x24" frame.
 

KonopCh

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lmao okay child lemme break it down for you: A- you havent said anywhere in the 6 posts on this thread that you are not a noob, so dont tell me you told me something when you didnt jacka$$. B- you obviously are a noob cuz you aint done enough experimenting to know what type of training works best for you like the rest of us have. C- topped plant and naturally grown can absolutely produce the same amount even in the same timeframe, which you would probably know if you wernt the noob that you claim not to be. D- "i already CAN" isnt the same as "i already HAVE" so come back and talk to me after you've actually completed a grow. lmfao.
I have said all that in first post. Noob at photoperiods, not in autos, you see my yield from them. Stop being jackass and suck your dick bitch! And sorry I am not American like you, so my english is not perfect.
 

JackSkell

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i dont care that your english isnt perfect, i have no problems understanding what you type, but you asked a question that cant really be answered without knowing every aspect of your grow and your experience and then get mad at people for trying to point out to you the obvious basics that make more of a difference than the training, growing autos and growing photos is completely different, autos are known for being hardier plants that can withstand improper nute balances and higher temp fluctuation, but photos will react differently to these variables, Genetics are a large part of the equation also but you didnt specify which strain your seeds are, and for the second time: you still havent given us the height of the tent, if you took a few minutes to consider these things instead of getting upset when people bring them up then we would be able to help you alot more, instead youre acting like one of those kids whos grown 2 plants before and thinks he knows everything, you can tell me to suck a dick all you want but i grow buds bigger than my forearms so it really makes no difference what you say lmao
 
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