9-59-8. Phosphorous When does this need to be used?

Dragon Daddy

Dragon Daddy

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I like it a lot. Do you grow from seed or clone? Do you top or train these at all, or do you just grow as many as you’d like?
 
jarvild

jarvild

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Dragon Daddy said:
I like it a lot. Do you grow from seed or clone? Do you top or train these at all, or do you just grow as many as you’d like?
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Mainly clones, I do pop seeds now and then to keep my cultivars updated.
Dragon Daddy said:
I like the short compact nature of these plants how much did you yield off each they all look almost identical.
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2 1/2 to 3 ounces per plant on those, 21 days veg from rooted cuttings. 9 weeks flower.
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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Dragon Daddy said:
What are the negatives of using it the last three weeks versus not?
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The advantages. None really. It can burn them.

I don't buy into the whole cannabis specific nutes or bloom boosters and other snake oil.

Sure some strains might need more P or K and if they do then use some. Otherwise just read the plant. Keep it happy and everything else follows.

Flushing is a myth as well.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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whitebb2727 said:
The advantages. None really. It can burn them.

I don't buy into the whole cannabis specific nutes or bloom boosters and other snake oil.

Sure some strains might need more P or K and if they do then use some. Otherwise just read the plant. Keep it happy and everything else follows.

Flushing is a myth as well.
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I agree.

The proof is in the marijuana plant problems section where people are 4 - 5 weeks into flower and then all those bloom boosters they dumped on their plants are causing havoc. Then you get the plethora of replies with advice from it's this micronutrient or that micronutrient deficiency. The standard picture chart of deficiencies is posted, someone says to add calmag, someone else says flush it with X pH'd water, etc... The root cause of the issue is from over fertilization.

I've seen beautiful grows go downhill in the last few weeks because people felt the need to add more stuff the plants didn't need.
 
Dragon Daddy

Dragon Daddy

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xtsho said:
I agree.

The proof is in the marijuana plant problems section where people are 4 - 5 weeks into flower and then all those bloom boosters they dumped on their plants are causing havoc. Then you get the plethora of replies with advice from it's this micronutrient or that micronutrient deficiency. The standard picture chart of deficiencies is posted, someone says to add calmag, someone else says flush it with X pH'd water, etc... The root cause of the issue is from over fertilization.

I've seen beautiful grows go downhill in the last few weeks because people felt the need to add more stuff the plants didn't need.
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I’m definitely being careful. But I’ve done everything they said on their schedule up to this point and the plants both look good. The bubba kush has some nutrient burn possibly on the tips, then again I don’t know that it’s not light/heat related. I believe it’s over fertilization. But the bud growth seems ok. I don’t know it’s my first time ever using nutrients so I’m learning. But following the schedule so far has served me well. I called and talked to two diff employees there and they said two diff things about preposterous phosphorous. One said it wasn’t a mistake that I gave it to it week three but that if you give it preposterous phosphorous you should only feed it that, don’t give it the other bloom feed. He said it was more intended for the last three weeks. Other dude told me to just go ahead and start using the stuff at week three. I’m not trying to kill the plants. I’m trying to learn to grow as well as I can. I want to find out who is right and I understand money is involved in what these grow store guys tell people but as I said...every thing is going really good so far with the advice I’m taking from them so I am uncertain when it comes to not believing them about this 9-59-8 stuff. I am concerned that someone said potassium (K) is just as important or more for flowering and there seems to be only 2 products in my schedule that’s high in that 0-0-3 ‘body builder’ and 9-59-8 preposterous phosphorous. I’m not sure that this isn’t a case of many ways to skin a cat. And I’m really here for the truth and not here to refuse anyone’s knowledge.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Dragon Daddy said:
I’m definitely being careful. But I’ve done everything they said on their schedule up to this point and the plants both look good. The bubba kush has some nutrient burn possibly on the tips, then again I don’t know that it’s not light/heat related. I believe it’s over fertilization. But the bud growth seems ok. I don’t know it’s my first time ever using nutrients so I’m learning. But following the schedule so far has served me well. I called and talked to two diff employees there and they said two diff things about preposterous phosphorous. One said it wasn’t a mistake that I gave it to it week three but that if you give it preposterous phosphorous you should only feed it that, don’t give it the other bloom feed. He said it was more intended for the last three weeks. Other dude told me to just go ahead and start using the stuff at week three. I’m not trying to kill the plants. I’m trying to learn to grow as well as I can. I want to find out who is right and I understand money is involved in what these grow store guys tell people but as I said...every thing is going really good so far with the advice I’m taking from them so I am uncertain when it comes to not believing them about this 9-59-8 stuff. I am concerned that someone said potassium (K) is just as important or more for flowering and there seems to be only 2 products in my schedule that’s high in that 0-0-3 ‘body builder’ and 9-59-8 preposterous phosphorous. I’m not sure that this isn’t a case of many ways to skin a cat. And I’m really here for the truth and not here to refuse anyone’s knowledge.
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If your plants look great why give them anything? You have multiple plants. Try it on some and not the others. Then you'll know what it does for sure. You won't need to use advice from other people.

First hand knowledge is better than advice from the internet.

Good luck.
 
Dragon Daddy

Dragon Daddy

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xtsho said:
If your plants look great why give them anything? You have multiple plants. Try it on some and not the others. Then you'll know what it does for sure. You won't need to use advice from other people.

First hand knowledge is better than advice from the internet.

Good luck.
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I like this advice and it seems to be one of the main things to remember with this stuff on the internet. Thanks man.
 
diggs99

diggs99

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xtsho said:
I agree.

The proof is in the marijuana plant problems section where people are 4 - 5 weeks into flower and then all those bloom boosters they dumped on their plants are causing havoc. Then you get the plethora of replies with advice from it's this micronutrient or that micronutrient deficiency. The standard picture chart of deficiencies is posted, someone says to add calmag, someone else says flush it with X pH'd water, etc... The root cause of the issue is from over fertilization.

I've seen beautiful grows go downhill in the last few weeks because people felt the need to add more stuff the plants didn't need.
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i was just about to do this exact thing.

Had an issue, was told 25 different things it was and 250 ways to fix it, in the end i decided to flush her with an extra Gallon of water and will look at decreasing her nutes next feeding.

I was more afraid of what the boosters and other stuff could do to harm than i was the benefits lol
 
hillbill

hillbill

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That P number is a bit deceptive because the very low dilution rate of the high phosphorus synthetics. So they are basically high P supplements. In final watering mixture the 9-59-8 would be much more diluted than say a 20/20/20.

High P fertilizer is not all it’s cracked up to be. The need for very high P is also suspect. Very effective for a marketing ploy.
 
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