90 year old vet forced to be homeless.... Gotta love the GOV!

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Ernst

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How did they find out about the Metal?

Certificates I can understand but Metal??

"Confused."
 
ginjawarrior

ginjawarrior

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JustAnotherHead said:
Yeah baby. Government looking out for you! R or D this is disgusting.

http://theintelhub.com/2012/06/20/wwii-veteran-being-forced-out-of-home-and-forced-to-exhume-wifes-body-needs-your-help/
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as disgusting as it is for someone to lose their home due to bankruptcy this isnt the governments fault. he had private debts that he filed for bankruptcy for. his former stepson let the bankruptcy court know that he was lying about his assets in the form of hidden gold.
he was attempted to commit fraud
i watched the video and he certainly didnt seem to have "diminished mental capabilities"

now i come from a country with universal healthcare where no one ever loses their house because they can't pay their medical bills

but as thats not the case over there what are you expecting of your government by complaining about this?
 
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NoDrama

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Why would someone file Bankruptcy over medical bills? Tell the biller to fuck off, not much they can do except get a judgement against you, but even then if you don't make more than $290 a week in wages and are on retirement they cannot garnish wages or take away your home, or your vehicle, appliances, clothing or food. This guy is going to commit suicide, but hopefully not before he does some crazy shit to the lawyers.
 
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JustAnotherHead

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ginjawarrior said:
as disgusting as it is for someone to lose their home due to bankruptcy this isnt the governments fault. he had private debts that he filed for bankruptcy for. his former stepson let the bankruptcy court know that he was lying about his assets in the form of hidden gold.
he was attempted to commit fraud
i watched the video and he certainly didnt seem to have "diminished mental capabilities"

now i come from a country with universal healthcare where no one ever loses their house because they can't pay their medical bills

but as thats not the case over there what are you expecting of your government by complaining about this?
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Seems like your country is utopia, strange you don't mention which country however.
 
ginjawarrior

ginjawarrior

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JustAnotherHead said:
Seems like your country is utopia, strange you don't mention which country however.
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im from the uk we dont make people bankrupt for medical bills

elderly residential care is run slightly differently where you are expected to contribute above a certain amount off assets and property isnt included if partner or children lives there.


According to Age UK, four fifths of councils now only provide care to those with either substantial or critical needs and anyone who doesn’t meet the eligibility criteria of their local council has to pay for any care they need.
Once your local eligibility has been assessed, the council will also assess your financial eligibility. Those with assets (including savings, investments and property, but not including life assurance or annuities) of more than £23,250 will be expected to fund the cost of their care.

The value of your home won’t be taken into consideration if it is still occupied by your spouse, a relative who is aged more than 60 or is incapacitated, or a relation who is under 16.
Residents with assets between £14,250 and £23,250 will be expected to make some contribution towards the cost of their care, but those with assets below £14,250 should not have to make any contribution.
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while he has got credit card bills aswell im guessing they might not have accumulated if he wasnt paying for his wifes healthcare. so from my side of the pond the obvious preventative to this would be healthcare

but im guessing thats not what you mean.

so ask what are you expecting from your government?
 
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JustAnotherHead

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ginjawarrior said:
im from the uk we dont make people bankrupt for medical bills

elderly residential care is run slightly differently where you are expected to contribute above a certain amount off assets and property isnt included if partner or children lives there.



http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/pensions/article-2141341/As-long-term-care-costs-soar-fund-residential-care.html
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while he has got credit card bills aswell im guessing they might not have accumulated if he wasnt paying for his wifes healthcare. so from my side of the pond the obvious preventative to this would be healthcare

but im guessing thats not what you mean.

so ask what are you expecting from your government?
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Sounds pretty wonderful over there. Did they ever stop the massive rioting in the streets though?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14449675

If everyone is doing so well why is there massive and widespread rioting. Sounds you guys have problems at home to solve. You should probably quit worrying about ours.

This is what Uncle Buck is all about. Break out the pitchforks.
 
ginjawarrior

ginjawarrior

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JustAnotherHead said:
Why is there massive rioting and looting in the streets of UK?
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*was* is the word you were looking for and it had nothing to do with healthcare.

the start point was at a funeral of someone that police shot it then carried on by a load of little shits that thought they could get away with it there wasnt anything political about it

but all of that has zero to do with what you would want your government to do about that guy, and his situation?

his healthcare and creditcard debts were legitimate
he filled for bankruptcy but tried to commit fraud by hiding assests

do you think he shouldnt be responsible for his debts?
 
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JustAnotherHead

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  • So weak in fact, nobody can provide an answer? I thought free health care led to a happy healthy population? Why is there massive rioting and looting in the streets of UK?​




 
ginjawarrior

ginjawarrior

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JustAnotherHead said:

  • So weak in fact, nobody can provide an answer? I thought free health care led to a happy healthy population? Why is there massive rioting and looting in the streets of UK?​
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ginjawarrior said:
*was* is the word you were looking for and it had nothing to do with healthcare.

the start point was at a funeral of someone that police shot it then carried on by a load of little shits that thought they could get away with it there wasnt anything political about it

but all of that has zero to do with what you would want your government to do about that guy, and his situation?

his healthcare and creditcard debts were legitimate
he filled for bankruptcy but tried to commit fraud by hiding assests

do you think he shouldnt be responsible for his debts?
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ginjawarrior said:
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good to see you got your eyes set on whats good for that old guy
 
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NoDrama

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What the old guy SHOULD have done was to start a self directed IRA and have all that gold and silver purchased through that investment vehicle. That way his bullion would in essence be "untouchable" to any creditor in bankruptcy. He could also have easily made himself the custodian so that he could store it on his own property. Unfortunately his stepson threw him under the bus or in England under the double-decker.
 
ginjawarrior

ginjawarrior

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NoDrama said:
What the old guy SHOULD have done was to start a self directed IRA and have all that gold and silver purchased through that investment vehicle. That way his bullion would in essence be "untouchable" to any creditor in bankruptcy. He could also have easily made himself the custodian so that he could store it on his own property. Unfortunately his stepson threw him under the bus or in England under the double-decker.
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i don`t understand why you think that. shouldn't he be responsible for paying his debts? or is it ok to get freehealthcare if you hide money?
 
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NoDrama

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ginjawarrior said:
i don`t understand why you think that. shouldn't he be responsible for paying his debts? or is it ok to get freehealthcare if you hide money?
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They should go after the wife, she was the one getting the medical care.

As far as hiding money, is it hiding money if he would have had $20 million in a 401K or a IRA?
 
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