911, emergency!!!! Wtf?

{Kottonmouth.King}

{Kottonmouth.King}

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I have seen a bunch of people flush their plants and that is what they look like after a flush. There is just too much water in the plant and it is really heavy. I wouldnt be giving it any nutes just pH water. Wait for the soil to go completely dry before adding anymore anything.

You need to give it time after a flush. Dont go directly into your feeding/watering schedule right away. Keep It Simple Stupid.
 
honkeytown

honkeytown

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throw a fan on her and find something to aerate the soil with....like a stick or a wooden spoon handle...poke that shit down there so the soil gets some air. also poke it into the drainage holes at different angle to supply the bottom soil with some air. :blsmoke:
 
thelastpirate

thelastpirate

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So y'all think this jewel will come back? Unreal!!! I thought it was a goner for sure. I was already tasting the buds!!! ( could ya smoke 'em at this point?)

Looks like I'll let her go. I put another fan on 'em for more ventilation. I'm pretty far off the road, but I think that putting them outside at this point would be foolish and just asking for a bust. She'll have to heal up where she is.
 
calicat

calicat

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when leaves tend to droop down it is a sign of nutrient toxicity. Also the color of the majority of your fan leaves are dark green indicating a toxicity of nitrogen. Also there could also be an issue of overwatering as well because the rate of your leaves transpiring is less than the water you are feeding it therefore you have water collection in your foliage.
 
thelastpirate

thelastpirate

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She's a statistic now. A casualty of the learning curve. Why does it always have to happen to the best and brightest?
I got all the buds and they are drying. She had some crystals forming on the buds when she croaked. Will they be worth the effort of drying and curing?
 
honkeytown

honkeytown

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thelastpirate said:
She's a statistic now. A casualty of the learning curve. Why does it always have to happen to the best and brightest?
I got all the buds and they are drying. She had some crystals forming on the buds when she croaked. Will they be worth the effort of drying and curing?
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I shed a tear for you just now...damn. I would say at four weeks right?...that they arent gonna get ya high. but...it's worth a shot. If I was in that situation I couldnt see myself just throwin all of that shit away....do us all a favor and wash your roots off and take a look at them.:blsmoke:
 
thelastpirate

thelastpirate

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honkeytown said:
I shed a tear for you just now...damn. I would say at four weeks right?...that they arent gonna get ya high. but...it's worth a shot. If I was in that situation I couldnt see myself just throwin all of that shit away....do us all a favor and wash your roots off and take a look at them.:blsmoke:
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I'll do better than that, I'll post pics. Hopefully someone on the board will know what they are looking at. To me, it's a big wad of fibers. They are in the dark now, and the plant is still in the room, but in the morning, I'll do it. SON OF A BITCH!!! She had some crystals on her too. you could see them with the naked eye, REALLY well with a loupe! I am fucking heartbroken!!!
 
honkeytown

honkeytown

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thelastpirate said:
I'll do better than that, I'll post pics. Hopefully someone on the board will know what they are looking at. To me, it's a big wad of fibers. They are in the dark now, and the plant is still in the room, but in the morning, I'll do it. SON OF A BITCH!!! She had some crystals on her too. you could see them with the naked eye, REALLY well with a loupe! I am fucking heartbroken!!!
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you havent cut her down yet? are you sure it's gone?
 
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thephantompain1990

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i hope you didnt cut it down i was wondering what the problem was(my vote was for overwatered). if you didnt i say you dont water it for like a week and see if it bounces back.
 
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NoDrama

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LOL so after finding out is was overwatered you went and basically triple watered it ( Flushing). Umm how come you didn't just leave it alone and let it dry out, you woulda been ok. Part of the learning curve I guess, but no matter what you call it (Watering , Flushing, H2O treatment) its still water. Point is dont water something that is overwatered.
 
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thephantompain1990

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NoDrama said:
LOL so after finding out is was overwatered you went and basically triple watered it ( Flushing). Umm how come you didn't just leave it alone and let it dry out, you woulda been ok. Part of the learning curve I guess, but no matter what you call it (Watering , Flushing, H2O treatment) its still water. Point is dont water something that is overwatered.
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this is what i was thinking. the first like 10 people said it had to be overwatering and he even agreed. then he watered it more? i dont even remember anyone saying to flush it.
 
thelastpirate

thelastpirate

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icepik1234 said:
this is what i was thinking. the first like 10 people said it had to be overwatering and he even agreed. then he watered it more? i dont even remember anyone saying to flush it.
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Nah guys, I flushed them 'cuz the pH was almost 8 (By liquid test, not the meter), and I didn't water her after that. She just didn't recover, and I hated looking at it. They's gonna be plenty more to fret over.
And the flushing thing seems to be a "constant" amongst different sites, so I paid close(maybe too close) attention to it.
 
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thephantompain1990

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i still think if you would have left her alone she would have survived. you said after you flushed it the problem got even worse which seems to prove that overwatering was the problem and that the plant was still alive and responding to how you were treating it.
 
thelastpirate

thelastpirate

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Yeah, bonz, I did. This IS , after all, a learning grow. Lesson learned. I am increasing the size of the drainage holes, and am rethinking the vermiculite thing. I get some pretty good organic soil locally, so I mixed it 1\3 soil, 1\3 perlite, and 1\3 vermiculite. I am starting to think that the soil itself is retaining too much water. The vermiculite is for that. Sounded good at the time
For those who wanted oics of the roots, here ya go. there wasn't as much as I thought would be there. Of course, some didn't come out with the main ball, but it really was smaller than I thought.




My good camera is at my shop, so I took these with the camera.
 
bonz

bonz

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cant remember if you have started your next grow yet. i have a sweet soil mix i use if not
 
thelastpirate

thelastpirate

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No haven't started yet, I have some bagseed, but i am scrounging my friends for some better stock. This is PDG weed, but it aint the shit that killed Elvis or anything. And if I am gonna go thru all this, I want it to be worth the time and effort.
 
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NoDrama

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Def overwatered, your rootball should have been 3 times that size, remember that getting oxygen to the roots is just as important as nutes and water. Drowning roots don't grow, they just stagnate. Lose the vermiculite I say and just go 4 to 1 or 5 to 1 ratio of good organic soil to plain old perlite, that should get you results. try bonz recipe too.
 
bonz

bonz

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my recipe has quite a bit of stuff in it other than just perilit or vermiculite.
oh hell i`ll go get it and post it mabee someone else could use the idea
 
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