A Bored Electrician to Answer Your Questions

watercooled@ · Feb 5, 2010

grownam said:
What would use less power? 110 volt ballist 9 amp draw or 220 volt ballist 4 amp draw

They both use the same "power". You're kilowatt hours used will remain the same. Your electric bill will be the same.

What it saves on is AMP draw and if you wanted to run 100 of those "ballist" it would take 400 amps at 110, but only 200 amps at 220.

Cheers!

IAm5toned · Feb 5, 2010

grownam said:
What would use less power? 110 volt ballist 9 amp draw or 220 volt ballist 4 amp draw

they both use the same amount of power...
aprox 990watts.

with 220 you gain the ability to run more equipment per circuit.... the higher the voltage, lower the amperage.

but, as ive said hundreds of times before, you get billed for wattage, not amperage.

edit: i see watercooled beat me to it lol bongsmilie

IAm5toned · Feb 5, 2010

one11 said:
yes I know this and I have connected the blackwhitegreen to the male end but its just the other end that im not so sure about. like how to connect the light to it. do i need to get something to attach to the other end so i can plug it in with the light?

man, im not sure what exactly your question is here...

if your asking how to connect a standard 3 prong 110 cord to a NEMA twist loc receptacle, its pretty easy, you cant do it.

you have to buy a twist loc male cord end that fits the rv cord and wire the 120v cord directly onto it.

a pic of the rv cord would help alot

edit/ps-

and @ 250 foot, expect to get about 18-22 amps, if your running # 12. youll never get the full 30 at that distance unless you upgrade the wrie to #8. #10 will get you 30 amps for short durations, but if your running a grow op youll be hitting the lights on 12/12 so if your running more than 1800w of lighting you might want to consider #8. less than 1800w #10, less than 1400w #12

IAm5toned · Feb 5, 2010

watercooled@ said:
Thank you!! I have done some more research and seem to have cleared up some of the "old school" advice I received on the the sub panel issue. I trust the person that told me a 3 wire feed would work fine and that he has seen many installed this way... This thread here: http://www.homerepairforum.com/forum/electrical/8176-wiring-sub-panel-garage-5.html gave me some more insight and understanding on sub panels and why my contact was telling me to provide a 3 wire feed to the sub panel.

3wire would work for 240v, but not for 110. in principle (on paper) it would work; however the grounding/bonding requirements differ, in a sub panel the grounds have to seperate from the neutral because it is possible for a peice of grounded equipment (like a light fixture or stove) to get wet and become a better ground than the one provided by the power company. since electricity seeks the path of least resistance to opposite potential, (in this case the ground) there is a chance the neutral load can reverse direction and travel up the ground wires and dissapate on your appliance, instead of the ground rod outside. you dont want that happening....

watercooled@ · Feb 6, 2010

IAm5toned said:
3wire would work for 240v, but not for 110. in principle (on paper) it would work; however the grounding/bonding requirements differ, in a sub panel the grounds have to seperate from the neutral because it is possible for a peice of grounded equipment (like a light fixture or stove) to get wet and become a better ground than the one provided by the power company. since electricity seeks the path of least resistance to opposite potential, (in this case the ground) there is a chance the neutral load can reverse direction and travel up the ground wires and dissapate on your appliance, instead of the ground rod outside. you dont want that happening....

Thank you... yet another question explained... which in my case is more important to understand then to simply connect the white wire to the white wire.

thanks again!

one11 · Feb 6, 2010

IAm5toned said:
man, im not sure what exactly your question is here...

if your asking how to connect a standard 3 prong 110 cord to a NEMA twist loc receptacle, its pretty easy, you cant do it.

you have to buy a twist loc male cord end that fits the rv cord and wire the 120v cord directly onto it.

a pic of the rv cord would help alot

edit/ps-

and @ 250 foot, expect to get about 18-22 amps, if your running # 12. youll never get the full 30 at that distance unless you upgrade the wrie to #8. #10 will get you 30 amps for short durations, but if your running a grow op youll be hitting the lights on 12/12 so if your running more than 1800w of lighting you might want to consider #8. less than 1800w #10, less than 1400w #12

that actually helped a lot more than you know. thanks so much.

simpleton · Feb 6, 2010

i recently got a td-100x mixvent inline fan, which did not come with wiring. it says the unit operates on a 120v 60hz standard electrical supply. i'm not really sure what that is, i tried stripping a pc power supply and i got green, white, black wires, and a small strand of wire that's silver. i'm having a heck of a time trying to get the end off so i may try and get something smaller, can i use a 2 prong cable? where could someone find one of these and is there an easy way to tell which is the ground/positive?

IAm5toned · Feb 6, 2010

simpleton said:
i recently got a td-100x mixvent inline fan, which did not come with wiring. it says the unit operates on a 120v 60hz standard electrical supply. i'm not really sure what that is, i tried stripping a pc power supply and i got green, white, black wires, and a small strand of wire that's silver. i'm having a heck of a time trying to get the end off so i may try and get something smaller, can i use a 2 prong cable? where could someone find one of these and is there an easy way to tell which is the ground/positive?

you need a 120v small appliance cord.
you can find them at virtually any large hardware like ace or home depot.

for future reference, the white wire is the neutral. the black wire is the hot, and the green wire is the ground.

looking at the cord end itself, the larger straight blade is always the neutral, the smaller straight blade is always the hot, and the round blade is always the ground.

on the fan 120v or L is where the hot black wire goes...
N or Neut is where the white neutral goes

G or GND is where the ground goes.

simpleton · Feb 6, 2010

IAm5toned said:
you need a 120v small appliance cord.
you can find them at virtually any large hardware like ace or home depot.

for future reference, the white wire is the neutral. the black wire is the hot, and the green wire is the ground.

looking at the cord end itself, the larger straight blade is always the neutral, the smaller straight blade is always the hot, and the round blade is always the ground.

on the fan 120v or L is where the hot black wire goes...
N or Neut is where the white neutral goes

G or GND is where the ground goes.

Can I snip the copper wires? I have one of those cords but I can't get the end off and I'm not sure if you can cut the wires. Thanks

IAm5toned · Feb 6, 2010

simpleton said:
Can I snip the copper wires? I have one of those cords but I can't get the end off and I'm not sure if you can cut the wires. Thanks

of course you can....
how do you think electricians do there job?

just make sure you have enough insulation stripped off the wire. 3/4" inch. any more is too much, any less is not enough

simpleton · Feb 7, 2010

IAm5toned said:
of course you can....
how do you think electricians do there job?
just make sure you have enough insulation stripped off the wire. 3/4" inch. any more is too much, any less is not enough

Got it working. Thanks! Oh and for anyone curious, I'm using the td-100x wired for the low setting, 100cfm and it is nearly completely silent. Perfect for a small stealth grow. Thanks again 5stoned.

marijuananation · Feb 11, 2010

Can you help me with this question ??
LINK BELOW:
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/301797-can-i-use-hps-high.html

Do i wire it to an existing light socket receptical ?? or attach an extension cord to the ballast ??
Thanks +++ REP

Dmitri Medvedev · Feb 12, 2010

My question is what would be the best permanent 6,000watt PDU to use indoors on the second floor? My breaker is in the basement my house is over 100yrs old.
I don't have a sub panel. It would be great if I could monitor it from the net via my smart phone. Do you know of any websites that offer what I'm talking about? & Do you know of any awesome home security books?

Thank You For Your Time.

IAm5toned · Feb 12, 2010

let me get this straight... you want to put a 6000w pdu in a 100yr house, with no subpanel?
lol... thats a first for me.
id say the cisco Nexus 7000 series. scalable wattage up to 7.5kw, with intelligent remote monitoring.
there not cheap... like 3-4k.
cheapest one here:
http://www.provantage.com/cisco-systems-n7k-ac-6-0kw~7CSCO2QQ.htm

Dmitri Medvedev · Feb 12, 2010

IAm5toned said:
let me get this straight... you want to put a 6000w pdu in a 100yr house, with no subpanel?
lol... thats a first for me.
id say the cisco Nexus 7000 series. scalable wattage up to 7.5kw, with intelligent remote monitoring.
there not cheap... like 3-4k.
cheapest one here:
http://www.provantage.com/cisco-systems-n7k-ac-6-0kw~7CSCO2QQ.htm

Your right lol that is a lot of money to spend. :spew:

What would be the most cost effective way to supply 6000w-7500w to my master bedroom up stairs with out installing any outlets in my walls?
Could I run a 2/0-Gauge cable from my breaker to this controller I have attached below? & that's all I need. or could I make something similar to this box for less? The box cost 729$ USD

IAm5toned · Feb 12, 2010

what type of voltage are you using? it will affect the size of the cable...
and i cant see the attatchment

Dmitri Medvedev · Feb 12, 2010

IAm5toned said:
what type of voltage are you using? it will affect the size of the cable...

http://www.discount-hydro.com/dept.php?navid=5

try that link and it will tell you about the lighting controller. In the photo of my last post. I'm running downstairs now to check it.
I'm going to take a video or photo of it & post.

watercooled@ · Feb 12, 2010

Thanks again Iam5stoned. MY electrical is done. You can see pics fromt he link in my sig. I have since covered the receptacles in the pic as well as seating them properly.

IAm5toned · Feb 12, 2010

yeah, you iwll need a 4 wire 2/0 cable (3 conductor, 4 wire, 4th wire being the ground) the ground can be #4

Dmitri Medvedev · Feb 12, 2010

IAm5toned said:
yeah, you iwll need a 4 wire 2/0 cable (3 conductor, 4 wire, 4th wire being the ground) the ground can be #4

I think I can get that at home depot.
It's 240 Volt AC, Type Q2MT, 2 Pole Unit

I'm not sure what the last box is pictured. But It does not look good.

Any books I should read before installing this device?

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