A Medicinal Refrigerator

gumball

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Gonna be a bad ass frig with a 400 in there! Them girls are gonna love you!! So what are you putting in the new fridge, the 250 in the top left corner and the 150 in the top right corner? Now that would be BAD ASS! Oh the double penetration!! HA, I kill me!!
 

Danielsgb

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No, the 400W is for the main garden. My veg table used a MH but I realized my ballast was S51 so off we go. It looks like sunlight already and it's still warming up.
Daniels
 

Danielsgb

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Ok here's my 400W CMH temp's
Before HPS's temp's 83.4 top sensor
84.4 Bottom sensor

At Bulb switch 1:54 78.8
81.3
2:09 82.4
84.7

I'll keep updating this one on edits.
Daniels:weed:
 

gumball

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Yeah my pc was bright as hell I lit it up in the center of the living room and my wife started cussing cause she was "blinded by the light"!!! Today is the 2nd full day mine have been under this light, can't wait to look at the difference when I update the PCC!

Where is your PCC entry gonna get light? You have so many damn places to put it!
 

gumball

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Wow, your top is cooler than your bottom! Must be because of th cool tube having its own air supply. Jsgamber is gonna love this temp run down of the 400 cmh, even if he is waiting to get one for a while.
 

Danielsgb

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I might have these backwards. A buddy got here, so I'll keep checking but a 15/30/1 hr won't work for now
 

Danielsgb

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I put a more powerful fan for the exhaust, then put the old exhaust for the intake. I'll use the Old Intake for the next PC, I guess. I also put a piece of glass below the bulbs. I wasn't happy with the temps, but this seemed to do it. I'm running 4 to 5 over amb. with lights on and 3 to 4 under when they're off. I'm still keeping the fans on full time. I put a cut up piece of nylon behind the fan grills to keep leaves from getting clipped. Mini-Matilda got feed Morbloom and sat under the CMH for a bit, and several hours in the sun while I re-did her apartment.
I got the Dry Boxes done today too. I even got most of the 150W CMH Ballast/Timer box done to exchange the fridge HPS. I lost steam at 11 pm while looking at the Sulfur Burner.
Daniels:weed:
Rebuild Best.jpgRebuild Best 2.jpg7-17 M.M. Best.jpg
 

gumball

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everything is looking top notch daniels, as always!!

Mini-Matilda is gonna be a PC beast! I can only be so fortunate for my PC girls to do so good

when you gonna put a CMH in the PC? I think a 50 or 70 watt would be real easy without affecting temps too bad. maybe for x-mas!!!

peace man
 

Danielsgb

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I got started on the CMH PC. I said 70W but I'm thinking maybe the 50W. It's 6.5"X16" so .72 sq.ft. It's 17.5" tall so much taller than my Pavilion.
What do you guys think? (Gumball, I know you have an opinion) Is the 70W worth it vs the 50W? Do you think the heat will be any different?
Daniels:weed:
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gumball

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i think that is a good call, 50 watts will be good. maybe you can try the 3000k if the need suits you, it has more lumens, but not the same energy spectrum. But 50 watts will be WAY brighter!! i know switching from the CFLs to the CMH are crazy differences!! As you know flow is key. v12xjs posted me this link https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=135524 on some good light proofing vents which may work for you. i have intake for mthe top to the bottom of the front panel. but only 3 inches of one side. i plan to stack 90 degree pieces like this all the way from the bottom to the top! right now my cool tube intake has my light diverter right in front of it so it has to work harder to pull in cool air. once i build a rig like in the link, it will have air across the total 8 inch width, giving the cool tube intake without the work. hope that made since. i think i could get temps down to 82 constant with a few mod's. but since I am running at 86 now i am happy for now. i will work on these mod's later

and that coleman lantern globe works well for $12 at walmart. i worried it would get hot, but it doesnt.
 

jsgamber

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Looking Good!!! :bigjoint:

Hey GB and Dan gotta question. Let's say I know this "friend" who wanted to flower in a cabinet that was 48"x18"and 36" high? He has a closed loop cool tube with 130cfm fan pull and 2x100cfm fans exhausting the cab? His ambient temps were 78* constant. Based on the space and venting what would be a reasonable bulb wattage and type that you recommend he use assuming all other conditions were "normal". Yes this sounds a lot like my space but forget all that. Think of the question on it's own. Think of it as a "straw poll". :blsmoke::blsmoke:
 

gumball

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Looking Good!!! :bigjoint:

Hey GB and Dan gotta question. Let's say I know this "friend" who wanted to flower in a cabinet that was 48"x18"and 36" high? He has a closed loop cool tube with 130cfm fan pull and 2x100cfm fans exhausting the cab? His ambient temps were 78* constant. Based on the space and venting what would be a reasonable bulb wattage and type that you recommend he use assuming all other conditions were "normal". Yes this sounds a lot like my space but forget all that. Think of the question on it's own. Think of it as a "straw poll". :blsmoke::blsmoke:
I preface that I assume your friends cab, cool tube, and every other variable is similar to yours, since hte dimensions are.
ok, here is what your friend has
cabinet--18 cubic ft/6 sq ft
cool tube--1.19 cubic feet (basing the length on 3.5 feet and width of 4")

your friend is currently circulating their cabinet about 11 times a minute. They are circulating the cool tube about 60 some odd times a minute. that light should really be cool to the touch with that much air moving around it, so I would say a 400 would work. i assume your talking about the CMH, which is cooler than the HPS and MH. The 250 is what most grow sites recommend for the space, but to flower our plant, you would need more penetration to get to the lower bud sites.

i know having 2 ballasts is a pain, but if it was mine and I could have a cool tube like yours with a pyrex cylinder on each side of the loop instead of just one side, then seperated a 8-12 inches more than yours, then stick a 150 watt CMH on each side of the cool tube, they would really get good penetration and coverage. if I had a large space i would rather have more smaller, than one larger bulb.

hope that helps!
 

gumball

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daniels, i actually stopped back by to tell you if you like that light filter idea i posted earlier, you will begin to find black plastic with 90 degree angles everywhere you look. small trash cans look good cause they have a curve that makes a 90. air flows better through a curve than a hard 90 ya know.
 

Danielsgb

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Looking Good!!! :bigjoint:

Hey GB and Dan gotta question. Let's say I know this "friend" who wanted to flower in a cabinet that was 48"x18"and 36" high? He has a closed loop cool tube with 130cfm fan pull and 2x100cfm fans exhausting the cab? His ambient temps were 78* constant. Based on the space and venting what would be a reasonable bulb wattage and type that you recommend he use assuming all other conditions were "normal". Yes this sounds a lot like my space but forget all that. Think of the question on it's own. Think of it as a "straw poll". :blsmoke::blsmoke:
I thought about this in between harvesting Cleo and Aisha. Thanks for doing that math Gumball. I came up with either two 150's or two 250's. Great minds gumball:weed: Great minds:weed: Kinda laughed when I read your response.
With the 48" length, I'd go with the dual because the 36" limits your friends distance and a 400 would be too intense. I've had to move my Veg CMH higher pretty quickly. After typing this sentence I'm questioning two 250's. :twisted:
I'm switching to the 150W CMH for this fridge tonight (or soon) so I'll see how it compares to the HPS. I'm sold on them. Hope that helps.:joint:
I'll be updating the main journal with harvest pics tonight.
Daniels:weed:
 

Danielsgb

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daniels, i actually stopped back by to tell you if you like that light filter idea i posted earlier, you will begin to find black plastic with 90 degree angles everywhere you look. small trash cans look good cause they have a curve that makes a 90. air flows better through a curve than a hard 90 ya know.
I did a quick read of that, and saw much to digest. I'm liking something like that for the CMH PC Thanks
Daniels
 
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