A Medicinal Refrigerator

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I was thinking a terraced plant set up with the vertical light . The little doodle I made would be the front view of the fridge. You'll probably get what I'm talking about when you look.

HowzerMD said:

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I was thinking a terraced plant set up with the vertical light . The little doodle I made would be the front view of the fridge. You'll probably get what I'm talking about when you look.

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Nice I get what you're thinking. I tossed around something like that a bit. The lack of width is what didn't work for me. Pretty steep for three levels or even 2. If I design a room I'd look into the Stadium. If I can get my hands on a Restaurant Fridge, like commercial, like 6' wide I'd go there. Have you ever seen Heath Robinsons Vertical Hydro. with one 600W? He gets 2.4g/Watt. Which is just fucking amazing.
Daniels

I got the PVC and Tin together with a Hose Clamp, then Duct Tape. I put a layer of Aluminum Foil Tape to Finish it. I got the Bake-a-Round ready too. The ends have Aluminum Foil Tape both from the inside first, then the outside to finish up. I put it half in or out, then a razor blade.
I thought about it and this time I won't have a Intake Tube then two 90's then this Tube. I'll go straight out. I can add a Carbon Filter after the 120mm Fan if I even need to.
So I may have an idea for the Lower Tube with HPS. I could use the T with a Cool Tube, and Fan, then a Cool Tube with HPS horz. say on the Right side Then the Left a Cool Tube straight out to it's fan. The left could be lower than the back and right. Left may have it's filter before Tube. If at all.
Does this make sense?
Daniels

looks good man, i think i under stand the cooltube thing, sounds like a good idea.

gumball said:

looks good man, i think i under stand the cooltube thing, sounds like a good idea.

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I'm still undecided on this one. The Pyrex blocking the UV-B is altering my ideas. Tossing around the center tube as Main exhaust and a Cool tube for each CMH and HPS straight out. Maybe 6" to 10" apart. I could have the IR Heat bulb hang down in between the Tubes. I'll make a diagram. The HPS and it's heat being so close for side growth made me reconsider. I'm thinking t-5's for lower side lighting.
Daniels

Like this.

Maybe you need a hood in there without the glass. This is instead of using the cool tube. You could still have a main cab exhaust, above the hood, then a hood exhaust that connects to the side of the hood. This way no glass to block uv, but that pyrex may not block uv, or only a little

I killed my jig-saw. So off to Harbor Freight I go. It was from my grandpa and 40yrs old. They made good shit back then. Need to go to the Restore for more 4X3 PVC's too.
Daniels

Danielsgb said:

I killed my jig-saw. So off to Harbor Freight I go. It was from my grandpa and 40yrs old. They made good shit back then. Need to go to the Restore for more 4X3 PVC's too.
Daniels

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Bum deal. I always feel bad when a tool dies . BUT, you move on and salvage the unused blades and toss that son'bitch! I'm not quite sure I understand your color diagram there correctly either. Maybe clarify when you're back from the store ?

HowzerMD said:

Bum deal. I always feel bad when a tool dies . BUT, you move on and salvage the unused blades and toss that son'bitch! I'm not quite sure I understand your color diagram there correctly either. Maybe clarify when you're back from the store ?

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Its a top down look, the 2 side by side in the center are cool tubes for CMH and IR. Side blue lines are T5 side lighting I am pretty sure. Dead center I think is an incandescent for added IR. I could be wrong but that's what I see.

gumball said:

Its a top down look, the 2 side by side in the center are cool tubes for CMH and IR. Side blue lines are T5 side lighting I am pretty sure. Dead center I think is an incandescent for added IR. I could be wrong but that's what I see.

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Ah, alright thanks gumball. That cleared it up. I wasn't exactly sure what I was looking at from what view.

HowzerMD said:

Ah, alright thanks gumball. That cleared it up. I wasn't exactly sure what I was looking at from what view.

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I'm back. Yea close GB red is HPS purple is heat IR. Back soon with pics.

I got both the Intakes in. I drill a pilot hole, then use the 4" hole saw bit to mark the hole. Then I drill a bigger hole near the edge. A jig saw to cut the hole, then a trick I learned. I tap the edge bending it inwards slightly. Tap with little hammer then use the flat board. The inside was harder. Tin snips helped. I used a flat screwdriver and the hammer to get the upper one in nice and clean. I'll find 3" PVC with male ends to finish it cleanly. Two more holes to go. 2 in 3 out.
So I have to get the t-5's soon. I'll put their ballasts under it. Thinking dual 18" for each side.
OK guys, I may have a better plan. The 150W HPS, I used in the other fridge, so I know how warm it gets under it's Cool Tube. I know it needs it, and side lighting with it was a pipe dream. It needs a good 6" from the plant. So Cool Tube for HPS, locked in.
So CMH? If I use a Cool Tube like the other one I sacrifice UV-B. Didn't know that till a couple days ago. So new Mission for my DIY Portfolio. I can make a Hood for the 250W CMH with an exhaust like I use for the Cool Tubes. Unless anyone knows of a glass that doesn't block UV-B. I can change it into a Cool Tube if Temps make me.
So now on to the Heat Lamp. It's http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3876122 100W. I'm not sure if it's the best one, but I think it'll throw IR and red spectrum. So my plan for it is a round hood with a 4" tin exhaust tube to it's fan in the center. Even if the bulb is only coming on for 15 to 30 min. the fan will be pulling plenty from there.
What do you guys think?
Daniels

Just wondering, how do you keep light from going in the cool tube outlets?

jebus2029 said:

Just wondering, how do you keep light from going in the cool tube outlets?

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Amazingly little. I put pantyhose over the fans (more for bugs). I may add a Carbon Filter too. There is at least 4" or 5" from the fan to the socket that blocks some. I don't follow the over stress on light leaks. People blame Hermie's too quick on that IMO. Plants outdoors see full moons and street lights. Feminized seeds I've heard and understand can do a lot of it. I've seen the lumens they need to 'see' the light and was surprised how high it was.
Daniels

Danielsgb said:

Amazingly little. I put pantyhose over the fans (more for bugs). I may add a Carbon Filter too. There is at least 4" or 5" from the fan to the socket that blocks some. I don't follow the over stress on light leaks. People blame Hermie's too quick on that IMO. Plants outdoors see full moons and street lights. Feminized seeds I've heard and understand can do a lot of it. I've seen the lumens they need to 'see' the light and was surprised how high it was.
Daniels

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And what lumens does it take for them to "see"?

Namaste'

Illumination said:

And what lumens does it take for them to "see"?

Namaste'

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Shit, I knew someone would ask that. I think it was one of RiddleMe's but not sure which one it was that talked about it. As you know, they're tomb's of knowledge. It was about Hermaphrodites.
The Lumens may be 3000, but that may be way off. So much to keep track of.
Watts, Volts, Amps, Spectrum's, CFM's, and NPK's, Oh My.
Congrats on asking first. Now we'll see how close my high ass was.
Daniels

300 sounds more like it. You can grow a plant with just one small bulb so it would have to be down below that. Just wondering about the light because I always add in extra tubing to make it curved. I'll see light bouncing around and out but it is dimmer than the straight pipe.

I think you are right about light leaks not being that major though. Otherwise how would people be able to grow outside around their houses? Street lamps and flood lights would screw up a lot more crops. Plus people always rather blame the light than themselves

jebus2029 said:

. Plus people always rather blame the light than themselves

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Too true. Folks put more emphasis on the subject than they should.

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