• Here is a link to the full explanation: https://rollitup.org/t/welcome-back-did-you-try-turning-it-off-and-on-again.1104810/

A perfect cure every time

daybreaker

daybreaker

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The cure goes as follows.

1.De Fan.(Take big fans off):weed:

2.Hang upside down until stock snaps.:clap:

3.Trim up plant and take buds off separating crystal leaves from bud.:hump:

4.Fill glass jars with holes in lid and put in a dark cupboard.:wall:

5.Every 6 hours open lid and shake buds around a little to keep them from sticking together.:roll:

6.Repeat for 5-7 Days until Amber trichomes appear.:sleep:

7.test product.bongsmilie
 
WeekendSupervisor

WeekendSupervisor

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daybreaker said:
The cure goes as follows.
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4.Fill glass jars with holes in lid and put in a dark cupboard.:wall:
5.Every 6 hours open lid and shake buds around a little to keep them from sticking together.:roll:
6.Repeat for 5-7 Days until Amber trichomes appear.:sleep:
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This thread started out by giving better advice than this. The original post by SimonD is very specific, and very reputable. Another post, which people say is based on Simon's work, which helped me understand better is:
Science of Curing: No more guesses needed
http://buymarijuanaseeds.com/community/threads/the-science-of-curing-no-more-guesses-needed.144638/

the holes in your lids are going to mess up the beneficial bacteria's environment.
The amount of burping should be controlled and methodical.
shaking your buds in jars are loosening and losing trichs.
waiting for amber trichs doesn't seem like a good indicator of a finished cure.
 
WeekendSupervisor

WeekendSupervisor

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the role of oxygen in curing
I learned a little more. I'm still not sure on the roll of O2. I don't think there are bacteria like Chester Copperpot says. I think nvthis in the link above explains this pretty well, and talks about it being processes that continue to use stored energy after the death of the plant. I think the more I read, the more I am confused by conflicting information.
 
grow tiger

grow tiger

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When I harvest my crop, I plan on hanging the entire plant upside down keeping the fan leaves on for two three days to just make sure it don't dry to fast. My question is , while drying in a closet, what temperature and humidity should it be ? And I know to keep it in the dark but should I keep my fan on low or will this dry it to quick? Also when u say "flushing" does this mean to only give my plant straight water for two weeks before I harvest ? I'm five weeks into flower and if this is true,then I should only feed her water. Will this be enough time to flush the nutes out of the soil? And is there any benifet to keep the plant still in the soil in the dark for 48 hours before I chop her.... Sorry if I re asked any questions but I couldn't find the answers I'm lookn for. Any advise would be much appreciated! Thanx
~Grow Tiger~
 
WeekendSupervisor

WeekendSupervisor

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grow tiger said:
My question is , while drying in a closet, what temperature and humidity should it be ? And I know to keep it in the dark but should I keep my fan on low or will this dry it to quick? Also when u say "flushing" does this mean to only give my plant straight water for two weeks before I harvest ? And is there any benifet to keep the plant still in the soil in the dark for 48 hours before I chop her....
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(admittedly I am new to this, but here's what I gather)
The temp should be below 75F, or you risk losing terpenes (smell and taste). I think in the 60F's and 50 - 60% RH should be a good environment, and that has worked for me. A fan in the room, but NOT directly on the plants is good. The idea is to keep the air moving in the room, NOT dry them out quicker. Flushing is debated whether or not it is necessary, but I've had buds that crackle and pop when you smoke em and I believe that is from excess nitrates from heavy salt fertilizers. I don't flush with General Organics, and taste and smoke is awesome, no detriment.
I think darkness for 1 or 2 days before harvest might be good, I've read a bit on this, but never tried it.
Good luck, let us know how it turns out for you.
 
Hot Diggity Sog

Hot Diggity Sog

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grow tiger said:
When I harvest my crop, I plan on hanging the entire plant upside down keeping the fan leaves on for two three days to just make sure it don't dry to fast. My question is , while drying in a closet, what temperature and humidity should it be ? And I know to keep it in the dark but should I keep my fan on low or will this dry it to quick? Also when u say "flushing" does this mean to only give my plant straight water for two weeks before I harvest ? I'm five weeks into flower and if this is true,then I should only feed her water. Will this be enough time to flush the nutes out of the soil? And is there any benifet to keep the plant still in the soil in the dark for 48 hours before I chop her.... Sorry if I re asked any questions but I couldn't find the answers I'm lookn for. Any advise would be much appreciated! Thanx
~Grow Tiger~
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Hey Grow,

I'm no expert (yet) by any stretch but there is a lot of debate over the whole flushing thing. Just think about it though. Do you really think the last 2 weeks of bud production is going to thrive by starving your plant of food?
 
grow tiger

grow tiger

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Hot Diggity Sog said:
Hey Grow,

I'm no expert (yet) by any stretch but there is a lot of debate over the whole flushing thing. Just think about it though. Do you really think the last 2 weeks of bud production is going to thrive by starving your plant of food?
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I agree man,this is my first "real" grow to harvest ,usually it was me n someone else n I never really seen everything being done ....n yea there's like yes and no on these threads. Like u said ,I don't want to not feed em at the last streach n wasn't planning on it,but then other people say if I don't, I'll have a harsh bad burning smoke from any nutes that are in the plant , so yea ,I'm at a conflict right now so if anyone else has any advise on our convo,please chime in ! Thank H.D.S.
 
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FloerStokes

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I was wondering what i can do with my seeds. i have some pretty dank buds and received about 60 seeds. Im guessing they are new genetics now. Can i advertise them ?
 
grow tiger

grow tiger

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Wi
WeekendSupervisor said:
(admittedly I am new to this, but here's what I gather)
The temp should be below 75F, or you risk losing terpenes (smell and taste). I think in the 60F's and 50 - 60% RH should be a good environment, and that has worked for me. A fan in the room, but NOT directly on the plants is good. The idea is to keep the air moving in the room, NOT dry them out quicker. Flushing is debated whether or not it is necessary, but I've had buds that crackle and pop when you smoke em and I believe that is from excess nitrates from heavy salt fertilizers. I don't flush with General Organics, and taste and smoke is awesome, no detriment.
I think darkness for 1 or 2 days before harvest might be good, I've read a bit on this, but never tried it.
Good luck, let us know how it turns out for you.
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Will do ,thanxx man
 
grow tiger

grow tiger

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daybreaker said:
The cure goes as follows.

1.De Fan.(Take big fans off):weed:

2.Hang upside down until stock snaps.:clap:

3.Trim up plant and take buds off separating crystal leaves from bud.:hump:

4.Fill glass jars with holes in lid and put in a dark cupboard.:wall:

5.Every 6 hours open lid and shake buds around a little to keep them from sticking together.:roll:

6.Repeat for 5-7 Days until Amber trichomes appear.:sleep:

7.test product.bongsmilie
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I'm not an expert by any means but putting holes in your lids Is defeating the purpose of cureing, it can't cure if there's holes... This is y u cure in a cycle almost like ur light cycle. U put it in the jar ,air tight for say 12 hoursvthen open the jar and burp it .the buds should feel wet again ,so u leave the lid off for a few hours ,then repeat, n everyday that goes by u can open it less n less
 
Hot Diggity Sog

Hot Diggity Sog

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grow tiger said:
I agree man,this is my first "real" grow to harvest ,usually it was me n someone else n I never really seen everything being done ....n yea there's like yes and no on these threads. Like u said ,I don't want to not feed em at the last streach n wasn't planning on it,but then other people say if I don't, I'll have a harsh bad burning smoke from any nutes that are in the plant , so yea ,I'm at a conflict right now so if anyone else has any advise on our convo,please chime in ! Thank H.D.S.
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Yeah, I hear ya. Seems like a few people probably *know* because they've done side by sides. Most others do what they were taught.

I'm considering flushing 1/2 of my experiment as I have 2 of each strain in most cases. I'm hesitant because things don't grow up to be nice and strong by starving them.
 
MrStickyScissors

MrStickyScissors

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I cut of all the fan leaves right before I chop all the plants down cause it seems easier. Then I hang them upside down all over the house to where you can't even walk around lol. A fan on low not blowing on the plants but circulating the air. I wait tell they a all the way dry then I trim. Tastes and smells amazing for months to come. Wa la
 
daybreaker

daybreaker

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grow tiger said:
I'm not an expert by any means but putting holes in your lids Is defeating the purpose of cureing, it can't cure if there's holes... This is y u cure in a cycle almost like ur light cycle. U put it in the jar ,air tight for say 12 hoursvthen open the jar and burp it .the buds should feel wet again ,so u leave the lid off for a few hours ,then repeat, n everyday that goes by u can open it less n less
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yup your right.i tried the holes in the lid thing and it aint happenen.Im back to the ol hang it til its bone,then the jar cure just like I always did.if it aint broke don't fix it.
 
kingzt

kingzt

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Hey everyone I got a quick question I was hoping someone could help me with. I recently put some buds into a jar thinking they were ready for curing but they weren't quite done drying yet. Before I put them in they felt dry on the outside and the stems didn't snap, just bended, so I thought they were ready to go into jars. About 4-5 hours later my hygrometer inside the jar was reading 78%. I opened them back and put them back on the drying rack. But anyways I was wondering if I could just keep them in the jars with the lids open instead of taking them out and drying them at this point. I don't know if keeping them in the jars with the lids off while drying will effect the buds in anyways or if it's fine that way. Right now they're on the rack but just looking for some help if it happens again in the future. Any advice is greatly appreciated, thanks!
 
That guy with no name

That guy with no name

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Hey guys - am pretty new to growing and curing - was just wondering could this be made more simple by just saying dry your bud until rh reads 60-65% when sealed in a jar and then leave it alone for as long as possible or until needed? I'm just not 100% on when and why to ever open the jar other than needing to dry more because it's still over 65% rh. Will I have problems leaving a jar sealed at 64/65% for an extended period or must it be under 60% for that? Thanks - hope someone can clear that up for me and sorry if this has been mentioned before
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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Google gas transfer..
The cure works through respiration and hydrolysis breaking down the plant. A % of moisture is required To keep stomatas open. Air flow is required this is an aerobic process hence proper burping
Curing the plant is different than curing the trichomes

That's the simplified version
 
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grow tiger

grow tiger

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kingzt said:
Hey everyone I got a quick question I was hoping someone could help me with. I recently put some buds into a jar thinking they were ready for curing but they weren't quite done drying yet. Before I put them in they felt dry on the outside and the stems didn't snap, just bended, so I thought they were ready to go into jars. About 4-5 hours later my hygrometer inside the jar was reading 78%. I opened them back and put them back on the drying rack. But anyways I was wondering if I could just keep them in the jars with the lids open instead of taking them out and drying them at this point. I don't know if keeping them in the jars with the lids off while drying will effect the buds in anyways or if it's fine that way. Right now they're on the rack but just looking for some help if it happens again in the future. Any advice is greatly appreciated, thanks!
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Yea that's OK, if it read that high on your rh then just leave the buds out for 12-24 hours n put them back in n repeat till u get ur rh down, once 65%-68% rh in the jar then just burp them a couple times a day , just leave ur lid off for an hour or so ,move ur buds around in the jar n reseal it , as time goes on ,do it less n less till u get to the "cure zone" which u want it at 62 rh ..... U want to rather have did what u did then to wait to long , cuz once the buds dry,under 55rh ,there's no cure or coming back .....
 
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