A statement to all you dissing cfl's!!

Soium

Member
A rough estimate to run 20 150 watt cfls (3000 watts total) at 12/12 for a month would be $160. You're not using 150 watt cfls, you're using 150 watt EQUIVALENT cfls. Nice buds, though.
 

darkdestruction420

Well-Known Member
You'd do better with hid......dont you understand cfls are half as effecient as hps? you'll pay more to get less lighting. I've used them plenty of times myself, but they cant compete with hps for cost to light ratio. Personal attacks are not allowed on this site, click edit post then go the advanced and look at the thread title part, take out the word retards.
 

sine143

Well-Known Member
eh, you can get 20 42 watters for under 20 dollars at lowes when they are on sale. Then pop over to wally world and lift the y couplers and you are straight. even a 150 watt hps will run you 75ish
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
When i first started 2 years ago i read every possible thread on growing, I am on 4th harvest with cfl's. I was told dont bother, waist of time. blah blah blah..I thought i could take stock in waht you "experts" lmao say .. what a joke.. I use 5 150 watt cfls per plant. I use cfls, to germinate, veg and flower, I gorw huge dank buds, everytime. I have a plain closet with only a fan and a thermostat. Yes i do pay close attention to my babies, but besides rotating and feeding. They grow in a 4x3x 7 tall closet, WITH ONLY A FAN FOR CIRCULATION. I have no exhaust suction, I grow in topsoil-perlite-vermiculite..thats it. i feedbasic nuts, and ph'ed water. I have 4 plants that get clonned and follow rotation..I average 3-5 ounces a plant. I just hung my 4th harvest and am water curing half, wet weight of all 4 plants is 23 ounces,,i can verify all i say and my proof is5 feet away from me,,i grow killa dank bud which started with a bagseed. which i cloned-cloned and cloned again..If i seel my stuff to friends i get 175 for a half oz..so i would like all you "experts"lol who told me i would never yeild anything, to sit and spin. my electric bill is 28 dollars more a month with 20 cfls, i have odor under control, my buds are fat,,sure i run into mites and other expected things, but it cost me 36$ total a month to grow 20 ounces every 8 weeks.. so i would like you hps,halide guys to explain how i defied the world and did this, have set growing records? oh thats right you are narrow minded and know nothing about anything besides your own methods. I do love this website. Yet i wish those who talk about nonsense which they have no knowledge of SHUT THE FUCK UP.. stick to what you do..it must be a miracle, or i must be the choosen one because im doing 10x what you told me i could never..oh look a big fat cola grown with CFL'S and no scientific setup..lol..i must be a genius..
No... A genius would not show up and get excited about the less than average yields you are getting.
 

krozone

Well-Known Member
LoL, it's the same with LED's.
To each their own.

If CFL's are working for you as well. All the power to you brother!

Everyone knows better then you; that's the general consensus here as it pertains to CFL only Grows or LED only Grows..

Great job!
 

suTraGrow

Well-Known Member
When i first started 2 years ago i read every possible thread on growing, I am on 4th harvest with cfl's. I was told dont bother, waist of time. blah blah blah..I thought i could take stock in waht you "experts" lmao say .. what a joke.. I use 5 150 watt cfls per plant. I use cfls, to germinate, veg and flower, I gorw huge dank buds, everytime. I have a plain closet with only a fan and a thermostat. Yes i do pay close attention to my babies, but besides rotating and feeding. They grow in a 4x3x 7 tall closet, WITH ONLY A FAN FOR CIRCULATION. I have no exhaust suction, I grow in topsoil-perlite-vermiculite..thats it. i feedbasic nuts, and ph'ed water. I have 4 plants that get clonned and follow rotation..I average 3-5 ounces a plant. I just hung my 4th harvest and am water curing half, wet weight of all 4 plants is 23 ounces,,i can verify all i say and my proof is5 feet away from me,,i grow killa dank bud which started with a bagseed. which i cloned-cloned and cloned again..If i seel my stuff to friends i get 175 for a half oz..so i would like all you "experts"lol who told me i would never yeild anything, to sit and spin. my electric bill is 28 dollars more a month with 20 cfls, i have odor under control, my buds are fat,,sure i run into mites and other expected things, but it cost me 36$ total a month to grow 20 ounces every 8 weeks.. so i would like you hps,halide guys to explain how i defied the world and did this, have set growing records? oh thats right you are narrow minded and know nothing about anything besides your own methods. I do love this website. Yet i wish those who talk about nonsense which they have no knowledge of SHUT THE FUCK UP.. stick to what you do..it must be a miracle, or i must be the choosen one because im doing 10x what you told me i could never..oh look a big fat cola grown with CFL'S and no scientific setup..lol..i must be a genius..
Hmm was gonna say nice bud but uhh BITCH much!? Looks kinda airy to me :/ Still not convinced sorry close but no cigar :(
 

total

Active Member
well said, there is too many self appointed masters on this site with 2 or 3 grows under their belt and think anyone who doesnt use their methods or equipment are retards

the chatroom on here, is particularly full of assholes who think they got a 150 watt hps makes them better then anyone else growing
 

darkdestruction420

Well-Known Member
eh, you can get 20 42 watters for under 20 dollars at lowes when they are on sale. Then pop over to wally world and lift the y couplers and you are straight. even a 150 watt hps will run you 75ish
I mean actual watts, not equivelent. I am very very skeptical you could ever find 42w bulbs that cheap without buying in bulk. If i found that deal i would buy the store out, even if they had 100 bulbs at that price.
 

sine143

Well-Known Member
I mean actual watts, not equivelent. I am very very skeptical you could ever find 42w bulbs that cheap without buying in bulk. If i found that deal i would buy the store out, even if they had 100 bulbs at that price.
perhaps I was exaggerating. for my grow, 12 packs of 27 watters were 3 dollars each though.
 
When i first started 2 years ago i read every possible thread on growing, I am on 4th harvest with cfl's. I was told dont bother, waist of time. blah blah blah..I thought i could take stock in waht you "experts" lmao say .. what a joke.. I use 5 150 watt cfls per plant. I use cfls, to germinate, veg and flower, I gorw huge dank buds, everytime. I have a plain closet with only a fan and a thermostat. Yes i do pay close attention to my babies, but besides rotating and feeding. They grow in a 4x3x 7 tall closet, WITH ONLY A FAN FOR CIRCULATION. I have no exhaust suction, I grow in topsoil-perlite-vermiculite..thats it. i feedbasic nuts, and ph'ed water. I have 4 plants that get clonned and follow rotation..I average 3-5 ounces a plant. I just hung my 4th harvest and am water curing half, wet weight of all ..blah blah blah

HPS@ 7 weeks of 12.12
 

freddiemoney

Well-Known Member
When i first started 2 years ago i read every possible thread on growing, I am on 4th harvest with cfl's. I was told dont bother, waist of time. blah blah blah..I thought i could take stock in waht you "experts" lmao say .. what a joke.. I use 5 150 watt cfls per plant. I use cfls, to germinate, veg and flower, I gorw huge dank buds, everytime. I have a plain closet with only a fan and a thermostat. Yes i do pay close attention to my babies, but besides rotating and feeding. They grow in a 4x3x 7 tall closet, WITH ONLY A FAN FOR CIRCULATION. I have no exhaust suction, I grow in topsoil-perlite-vermiculite..thats it. i feedbasic nuts, and ph'ed water. I have 4 plants that get clonned and follow rotation..I average 3-5 ounces a plant. I just hung my 4th harvest and am water curing half, wet weight of all 4 plants is 23 ounces,,i can verify all i say and my proof is5 feet away from me,,i grow killa dank bud which started with a bagseed. which i cloned-cloned and cloned again..If i seel my stuff to friends i get 175 for a half oz..so i would like all you "experts"lol who told me i would never yeild anything, to sit and spin. my electric bill is 28 dollars more a month with 20 cfls, i have odor under control, my buds are fat,,sure i run into mites and other expected things, but it cost me 36$ total a month to grow 20 ounces every 8 weeks.. so i would like you hps,halide guys to explain how i defied the world and did this, have set growing records? oh thats right you are narrow minded and know nothing about anything besides your own methods. I do love this website. Yet i wish those who talk about nonsense which they have no knowledge of SHUT THE FUCK UP.. stick to what you do..it must be a miracle, or i must be the choosen one because im doing 10x what you told me i could never..oh look a big fat cola grown with CFL'S and no scientific setup..lol..i must be a genius..
I would guess that you are running 42W cfls (150W equivalent). At 5 per plant this comes out to 840 watts, you could run two 400W hids for the same cost. If 23oz wet is your average harvest from 4 plants, you should be able to easily double that with 800 watts of HPS. 23 oz. wet will only be about 5.5-6 oz. dry which is only like 0.2g/w. The CFLs only put out 2800 lumens, a 400W HID puts out 50,000.
Don't come on here trolling, calling everybody retards and telling them to shut the fuck up while you post a pic of a "big, fat cola" that's nute-burned to hell and looks neither big nor fat. How does that help your credibility?
 

sine143

Well-Known Member
oh dang, didnt see the wet part, thought thta was his dry yeild, and I was like, hm .7 g/watt is pretttty good.
 

jrinlv

Well-Known Member
The only reason I am even going to say it is you asked for it...

That bud will be thin as shit when it dries, and maybe OK smoke, if that's what you call dank cool.
I would not keep bragging about illegal activities on this website A) You can get kicked off the site. and B) there is this thing call Police. But do whatever you want to.

No trying to be too hard on you, you did grow to harvest and have gotten farther than most that come to this site I think. I would like to see your 20 oz of bud you harvested, then I will sit and spin. I use CFL too man, young veg and clones love them. I use them to supplement my HPS. Everything has it's place, not one thing will be your answer to everything. Think about it, why do 99.9 % of all growers use a HPS/MH set up? Probably because it works best.

I would not be super proud of that bud, In that photo it probably has like 3 weeks left right? You definatley have some things to work on, but good enough I guess. Maybe it's just the pic, but isn't that bud only a few inches diameter? But please post a pick of your total harvest and I'll eat crow...JR
 

total

Active Member
all the hpsers are coming out in force now lol

yeah the bud looks a bit nute burned, but if you look in the background, theres a dainty pair of ladies feet

i think this is what has got the hpsers jealous
 

freddiemoney

Well-Known Member
all the hpsers are coming out in force now lol

yeah the bud looks a bit nute burned, but if you look in the background, theres a dainty pair of ladies feet

i think this is what has got the hpsers jealous
I don't think anybody's jealous of anything, just annoyed at someone with limited experience coming on here ranting and raving, calling people retards and telling them to shut the fuck up. He showed up with a chip on his shoulder and something to prove.

Plenty of people have successful grows under CFLs, he's not the first and certainly not the greatest. Use CFLs if they suit your area best, but an HPS lamp is going to basically double your lumens at an equivalent wattage, which means bigger, denser buds for the same power usage.

A bit of nute burn would have the tips and margins showing some damage. That plant really has no leaves left and the few left are brown and crispy. If that is an entire plant, then I don't know where he'd get 23 oz wet off 5 of them. Maybe if you weight it in the pot...
 

skilled

Member
u make the rest of the people that know what they are doing using cfl's look bad. I have 125watt cfl's and they are at least 12" long and 20 of them in a closet would be as hot as a 600 watt hps or maybe even as hot as a 1000watt hps so untill u know what u are talking about, shut up and do some more reading like the real wattage of your bulbs
 

mygirls

Medical Marijuana (MOD)
now role with a big dawgs lights and come back with your tail between your leggs saying oops my aligator mouth over ran my humingbird ass..
im not knocking that nice looking bud,but just think of what it could o been with hids.. for one thing they would be dencer and bigger. and if you did the math with just the cfl's and fixuers you could have bought a hps, let alone the actual cost of power to run your setup power wise im sure you are right close
 
i pay 5.95 a bulb, they are 10 inches long,,the temp in my closet with ALL the lights on stays around 80, with the fan,,you can all say waht you want,,i get buds,,yield and great smoke for almost no money,,no fox farm,,bloom and wahtever the hell it is. i obviously am doing something right,, I GET BUDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD<<LOTS OF ITTTTTTTTTTTT..isnt that the point,,mr---skilled "at nothing!!! you do not know what you are talking about,,my proof is in front of me burning,,lol ,,so happy i posted this
 
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