A "stolen election" question...

Dr Kynes

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Your making a common mistake. Not all state haves the "all or nothing" allocation of votes. That has nothing to do with the EC. That's internal to the individual states. The EC is concerned with how the votes as a whole for the nation are allocated. Every state gets a EC vote for each Representative or Senator. Every state gets two Senators and at least one Representative. So Wyoming gets three votes, they have one Representative and two Senators. So they end up with something like one EC vote per 250,000 citizens (numbers are only guesses), while California may only get one EC vote per 1,000,000 citizens.
^^ this dude is so right^^

but im too high to keep that shit straight. goddamned debates demand i be wasted to sit through their prevarication and waffling.
 

Red1966

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Since I cannot resist the tangent, I'll opine that in the 2000 election, the electoral vote hinged on the final count of the popular vote in Florida. And they jiggered that final count until they got the desired result. THAT was the stolen election imo. cn
They counted the vote a total of seven times. Bush won every time. Al Franken lost how many counts before he actually won one and a leftist judge ordered there be no more recounts and all votes sealed?
 

Red1966

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The documentary I saw made a convincing story of it being unfair and nonsquare. Fwiw. cn
The "Documentary" you saw was in error or outright lying to you. The vote was counted 7 times. Bush won every count. He only had 500 and something more votes, but he still won every count.
 

Dr Kynes

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*you're

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ohh the irony.

one of the most common mistakes in english being used in a comment to illuminate one of the most common mistakes in US politics, being highlighted by the most common grammar nazi on this forum.

ohh bucky. you so crazy!
 

Red1966

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NY, NJ, and MA are all locked up by Democratic voters just like California. If we went to a popular vote instead, some of the votes in those four states would go to non-Democrats. I'm sorry, but I don't see how the less populist states would be any worse off with a popular vote. Another large benefit of abandoning the EC would be that third parties would also get some love.
Wyoming, for example would get 20-30% of the voter share it gets now. Maybe even less. This was a bargain sealed at the very founding of the nation. Eliminating it would render the Constitution void, and thus the United States would no longer exist as a legal entity.
 
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