Uncle Ben
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Not a real boner, just a mad on.
A tribute to Uncle Ben and the Almighty Leaf
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Uncle Ben
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Nice job! 4# weeks of veg - yowzer!
direwolf71
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I thought someone deleted this lousy thread?
PJ Diaz
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Please show me where you think I agreed with his theory. I'm pretty sure that the closest I've come to agreeing is to say that I believe defoliation may be beneficial in some situations and in my experience doesn't hurt yield when done in moderation. I believe that there is a possibility that defoliation could potentially increase yield in some situations but there isn't enough testing done to be conclusive either way, so to be so closed minded is foolish. I don't really even know what sir Ganjas method is to know if I would agree or not. Then I still wouldn't be sure until I tried it for myself. I prefer to draw my own conclusions based on real world experience.
Uncle Ben
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Yah sah! You're from the Dam and probably know a bit about Sag's breeding efforts. Remember Tony bred some Colombian with the Matanuska Thunderfuck around 2000 to make Peak19? Well, I did a F2 backcross. Check out this recessive Colombian leaf structure that showed up on one plant!Leaf porn!
Not that's a skinny little lady!
Uncle Ben
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chuck estevez
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o.k, sorry, i wasn't trying to start anything , just merely point out sir ganja's imagined followers
Darth Budder
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So as an argument against defoilating, here is a clone of a plant that i defoliiated the shit out of. The original plant at this time in flower was covered in nanners and this clone, this exact plant grown under the exact lights in the exact room, hasnt. Even though i trained the hell out of it. Wonder if not cutting the shit out of it had something to do with that? Sorry, i know there are flowers in these pics but there should be enough leaf porn to make up for it 
PS. this was fed jacks hydro + calnit and greened RIGHT the fuck up. Never had plants respond like that.
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PS. this was fed jacks hydro + calnit and greened RIGHT the fuck up. Never had plants respond like that.
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Darth Budder
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Damnit, i had a plant that looked like that last year and had to kill it because of an unexpected roomate....Yah sah! You're from the Dam and probably know a bit about Sag's breeding efforts. Remember Tony bred some Colombian with the Matanuska Thunderfuck around 2000 to make Peak19? Well, I did a F2 backcross. Check out this recessive Colombian leaf structure that showed up on one plant!
Not that's a skinny little lady!
Foothills
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.View attachment 2788709 Another Tribute To Uncle Ben !! It was his advice that helped get me started. Glad the thread came back !
Situation420
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Look at all these missing leaves, they transformed into buds. Leaves are overrated.
Defoliation is an advanced technique, this thread was started by a novice in the art of defoliation.
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Defoliation is an advanced technique, this thread was started by a novice in the art of defoliation.
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Situation420
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There you go, you have finally admitted that there is a necessary ratio for fruit and flower production to leaf surface ratio. That means depending on how the plant is growing that there is a set number of leaves that are necessary to support bud growth. So, if you have done some form of pruining or training and removed some of these bud sites, less leaves are required to support the same flowering growth for the plant aka defoliation.
Darth Budder
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Pardon my noviceness but it sounds like, and looks like, what you are talking about is minimizing the lower foliage to promote larger growth of the remaining bud sites. Isnt this something tomato farmers have been doing for like, ever? It doesnt have anything to do with these guys saying to strike off any leaf that is covering a bud site. I am fairly certain i have read that the buds and sugar leafs are super inefficient at photosynthesis. I actually read one guy that says he doesnt leave any leaf on the plant more then 2 weeks. Kidding right?
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TonightYou
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Jesus that right there is a damn tree!
Second bringing back this thread. Don't understand Wtf was going on with this thread.
Second bringing back this thread. Don't understand Wtf was going on with this thread.
Situation420
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Exactly sir. There are so many people out there giving defoliation a bad name because they don't understand that is s selective removal that has to do with a lot more than just photosynthesis. Most people think that defoliation means chop off all your fan leaves every 2 weeks. LOL first off, how can there be a set time for how long the leaves are to grow, it has to be done by observation and secondly havn't they noticed that when they remove all those fan leaves that the growth is slowed tremendously until the leaves come back? I don't get it, you need leaves, but you dont need them all, just enough.
Darth Budder
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Then I don't get why you two don't get along. I don't think I've ever heard Ben argue against that method. I think he even mentioned it in one of his posts on this topic. It's like you are arguing that he is saying topping is defoliation and that is stupid.
Ben correct me if I am wrong, but don't you also prune out the lower growth to promote top production?
420circuit
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Seems simple enough to remove the leaves that the plant doesn't need by trimming those that are yellowing. Unless you can do something to stop the yellowing and extend the ability of the leaf to do its job in support of the plant. The bickering sure gets old.
I appreciate what you do here UB, and thanks for helping to improve my yield. If you are ever in Colorado be sure to stop by the CO Patients forum and post a message.
I appreciate what you do here UB, and thanks for helping to improve my yield. If you are ever in Colorado be sure to stop by the CO Patients forum and post a message.
Situation420
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Why did my post double? thats weird
And No, UB never removes a single plant cell from any of his plants because the plant would not grow it unless it needed it.
Jimdamick
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That might be the best plant I've ever seen. Maybe I should read some more on UB methods. They seem to work.
HeartlandHank
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That's a nice pic. I like it. I just recently discovered that angle as a good shot for a photo. It's kinda hard with my setup, but I've been pulling it off lately.
What variety is that?
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