About to transplant outside.. and it's 107 degrees.

So yeah, over the last week or so I've been getting all the info I can/need to transplant my flowering indoor plants outside. I have to do this for various reasons.

1. They are midgrade bagseed in MG soil.. they were guinea pigs for my closet build.
2. I have quality beans from the 'tude.
3. I germinated some of them...
4. I''m going hydro, DWC specifically
5. I think at least one of my 3 girls is mildly hermie.. I've seen half a dozen or so nuts and plucked off what I could.
6. The real estate appraiser is coming Monday and I need them out before then. My new beans will need to go into their buckets soon after anyway.

So my problems are/were:

1. My light cycle has been 12/12 for 2.5 weeks and they are well into flower. It's late enough in the year that I don't think this will be an issue.
2. Worried about contamination into my grow room inside from outdoor plants. I've got a spot far from the house, behind a treeline and more.. so unless I bring it in I'm not worried about airborne pollen.
3. My day cycle is currently starting at 10pm for temp issues. See below. I can fix this by skipping a day cycle. Lights went off at 10am this morning. They won't see light until 7 am tomorrow.
4. It's hot. 107 today, and similarly forecasted that way for the next week or so. This is my worry.

My current temps are low-mid 70s at night and 80ish peak during 'day'. They are going to be in 80s at night and 95-105 during the day.

I am expecting shock. I can water them often enough I believe. I will be putting them in the ground. They are completely rootbound atm. I have some leftover soilmix I planted them in plus a bag of topsoil to mix in. Being that they are heavy into flower I don't think they will grow a ton more roots but I will give them another 3-4" of nice soil on the sides and maybe 6" or so on the bottom before they hit whatever is there.

Anyone have insight on what I can expect? Just put them in the ground and water well and hope the shock only lasts a few days?

I guess this is probably a unique situation and not many have had to do something similar. I guess these plants began life as guinea pigs, they can end it the same way!

they say you shouldn't transplant when there in flowering I post a thread on other forums and got a yes and no but what I learned is if you prepare the soil meaning mix perlite,water where you're going to put it water you plant not too much get you some b1 superthrive at walmart and transplant early in the morning so no light gets to the roots and it has the day ahead to start healing you should do alright

They will stress and probably go back into vegetative state not very pretty.

I don't see why they would reveg, the light cycle is short enough now for natural flowering. I'm more worried about the jump in temps from 80ish to 100. They will have shade in the late afternoon, but super direct sun from 9am to 3pm, when it's 90 to 105 currently.

i think switching the day/night times will do something to them. keep them in the shade for a few days first. direct sunlight will shock them a lot, especially if its that hot

smoking58 said:

they say you shouldn't transplant when there in flowering I post a thread on other forums and got a yes and no but what I learned is if you prepare the soil meaning mix perlite,water where you're going to put it water you plant not too much get you some b1 superthrive at walmart and transplant early in the morning so no light gets to the roots and it has the day ahead to start healing you should do alright

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definately do not want to transplant them in the early morning... u should transplant at night around say 8:00 or so to give them all night to rest. transplanting them and then letting them endure 100 degree weather a couple hours later is not smart.

I think my plan is to just move the pots outside late tonight, I can hide them well enough for now that they can see the sun rise and endure the heat. I can makeshift some shade for the worst part of the day. Plus I'll get to watch them. I'll give them a couple days of this and then transplant one evening this weekend. Best I can manage, but it won't be a huge loss. Though I must say, for fucked up bagseed they have some nice bud formation. These didn't even show preflowers for a week either.

These are a couple of days ago, flowering cycle switch was on 7/16.

I would suggest watering prior and after with liquid seaweed. I transplanted in Cali on a day that was over 100 and had no issues with transplant shock.

Put them outside late last night when it was pitch black. This morning they were READY for light. They went from sleepy droop to reaching for the sky quickly when the sun came up. It got hot quick. I gave them some pH 6.5 tap water (didn't let it sit, but my water co. uses chloramines anyway so not much benefit). They drank it up, I had let them dry the last 2 days intentionally. It's nearly 100 and they are showing no adverse effects. No droop, no wilting. Just a tiny bit of taco curl on the top leaves of one plant due to the new higher temps I think, but I hope they can acclimate to it. I will shade them when it gets super hot today and hopefully in a couple of days they will be fine with the sun and temps.

My main problem now is with one plant. I posted in the problem forum but haven't got any solid answers. Maybe someone here can help me with this. It's on one plant bad, it's minor on another and not visible on the third. The two with problems are indica phenos, and the one that is fine is sativa. This makes me think it's a nute issue since they have all been treated the same since birth.

Plants were flushed when flowering began and fed once with mild nutes. The soil is 2 months old, they are rootbound in their pots so I am leaning towards deficiency but I don't want to rule out anything.

Soil/perlite 50/50 mix amended with garden lime. It was MG organic potting mix with no visible time release capsules so I imagine that soil is pretty much sterile by now. Soil pH is 7ish, I water with 6.5ish pH tap.

Any ideas? I don't think it's nute burn since it's only on a few of the older fan leaves. The new growth tips aren't brown and crispy like I'd expect with nute burn. Could be a lockout? My tapwater is hard. 8.4pH and about 400ppm. Possibly way too much Ca and not enough Mg to balance? I could water with epsom salts or amend it into the soil when I transplant if that would help.

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Well, not finding much info to nail it down. I don't think it's pH. Although I could have had pH lockup before and now that the pH is stable it's absorbing a bunch of nutrients, causing it to burn. Or it's eating itself to make buds (and it's making nice ones!).

My only option is to dig a hole, fill it with leftover soil mix, amend with a little topsoil, drop them in the hole and see what happens! At least this will eliminate the rootbound issue and rule out one more possibility. It should also give them a little supply of food.

yeah they will probably shrival up and look like they are gonna die. Don't overwater them and rot the roots. Best of luck...

I'll be sure to update everyone! II think I am going to dig holes guerilla style tonight when it gets dark and transplant them under darkness. I'll give them a little water when I do, and check them tomorrow once they eat some sunlight.

I hope you prepared for the ants and termites...

because they are gonna come to that moist soil like stink on shit.

Nope, it's completely unprepared. I just know it gets a lot of southern sun and I have fairly easy access to water them when necessary. Haven't seen any evidence of those pests. We do have a lot of spiders in the area though!

Well you're lucky then if you don't have ants and termites. During this hot dry weather they migrate to those moist fibrous plants and suck the life right out of them.

No deer or rabbits that I know of either. A lot of dogs in the area barking keeps rodents to a minimum.

hey they're looking happy, nice dude! nute burn starts at the newest growth tips.
-you have nitrogen deficiency: plants overall color is lime green, Lower leaves yellow first but it will start climbing upwards. the yellowing starting from the tips and crawls inwards. just feed her

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Please take a look at my transplanting tutorial on pg. 38 of my 2010 grow log, linked in my sig.

I think you'll be glad you did.

It shows pot to pot, but my method works wonderfully going pot to ground, as well.

It's getting late. Get it done, ASAP.

dirtysnowball said:

hey they're looking happy, nice dude! nute burn starts at the newest growth tips.
-you have nitrogen deficiency: plants overall color is lime green, Lower leaves yellow first but it will start climbing upwards. the yellowing starting from the tips and crawls inwards. just feed her

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This makes a lot of sense actually since it didn't start until heavy flower production did. Last time I fed them I only used bloom and no N as I figured the soil still had some. Perhaps it's just run out.

And I saw your other thread VG.. I'm going to do my best to get them in the ground gently.