Adam Lanza's mother

NoDrama

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I just want to make it absolutely clear once again for st0wandgrow that Ms. Lanza had her guns locked up in a vault. The fact that an adult can get into them is not her fault.
 

justanotherbozo

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Hey bozo, how in the fuck do you think she ended up DEAD??

Perhaps due to being shot in the face WITH HER OWN GUN?????????????????????
...is this what happened, or just more of your bullshit conjecture?

...it doesn't matter either way 'cause you can't punish a dead person.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Ben Franklin

...it's fools like you who will make us all helpless slaves, ...just try and come take my gun!

...and i'll let my children be responsible for what happens with them after i'm dead, at that point i just won't give a fuck!

bozo
 

st0wandgrow

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You blamed your mother for your necklace being stolen I presume? After all she must not have taught you how to secure it so that when you grew up to be an adult you unknowingly put your necklace in a situation where it could be pilfered. The nerve of your mother!
I blamed myself. Unlike you (apparently), I take responsibility for my own negligence.
 

st0wandgrow

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I just want to make it absolutely clear once again for st0wandgrow that Ms. Lanza had her guns locked up in a vault. The fact that an adult can get into them is not her fault.
Can you link me to an article that states that the guns were locked in a vault?

I'm looking for that, and I've yet to find it ....
 

st0wandgrow

Well-Known Member
...is this what happened, or just more of your bullshit conjecture?

...it doesn't matter either way 'cause you can't punish a dead person.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Ben Franklin

...it's fools like you who will make us all helpless slaves, ...just try and come take my gun!

...and i'll let my children be responsible for what happens with them after i'm dead, at that point i just won't give a fuck!

bozo
LOL! Errrrrr, yes Einstein, she was killed by her own gun. Do you live under a rock?

Nobody is talking about taking your guns, but it does strike me as being kinda twisted that there are 20 dead kids and all nutters like you care about is your precious fucking guns.
 

BadDog40

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She was a mentally ill gun nut who had a mentally ill kid who murdered 26 people. She was a doomsdayer stockpiling guns and ammo to prepare for the end of the world and any psychological examination would have revealed this. Unfortunately gun nuts are against any type of mental screening for guns so this is what we get.
 

st0wandgrow

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I just want to make it absolutely clear once again for st0wandgrow that Ms. Lanza had her guns locked up in a vault. The fact that an adult can get into them is not her fault.
OK, I've yet to find any source that states that the guns were locked in a vault, but let me ask you this ....

If the guns were NOT locked in a vault, and were simply accessible to any random person that gained entry in to the house, does that change your opinion? It does for me. I think there is a distinction to be made with that. Locked in a vault=reasonable effort to secure her weapons. NOT locked in a vault= careless negligence.
 

splifchris

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I think the only thing his mother did wrong was bringing up a child in a country with such ridulas laws....
 

Canna Sylvan

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Op,

The mother is fucking dead! Liberals are sick shits. It's no wonder they feel the need to ban so much stuff. It's they're afraid of themselves.

Paranoia, oh the irony.
 

Canna Sylvan

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OK, I've yet to find any source that states that the guns were locked in a vault, but let me ask you this ....

If the guns were NOT locked in a vault, and were simply accessible to any random person that gained entry in to the house, does that change your opinion? It does for me. I think there is a distinction to be made with that. Locked in a vault=reasonable effort to secure her weapons. NOT locked in a vault= careless negligence.
You're not very bright, even for a liberal. The law is you only need to lock up your guns if children under 18 have access to them. This "child" was 20 years old. No one knows his motive. Some people do shit just because with no mental illness. Unless his medical records are released we have no idea. If he was never evaluated, we may never know. I didn't show signs of bipolar for over 32 years. Hindsight is 20/20, or in my case 20/14.
 

st0wandgrow

Well-Known Member
Op,

The mother is fucking dead! Liberals are sick shits. It's no wonder they feel the need to ban so much stuff. It's they're afraid of themselves.

Paranoia, oh the irony.
What does her being dead have to do with the issue? This isn't about piling on. This could have been anyone, but the issue still remains. Should gun owners be responsible for taking proper care of their guns, and if they don't, should they be held responsible for criminal actions carried out through the use of those guns?
 

NoDrama

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What does her being dead have to do with the issue? This isn't about piling on. This could have been anyone, but the issue still remains. Should gun owners be responsible for taking proper care of their guns, and if they don't, should they be held responsible for criminal actions carried out through the use of those guns?
Lanza took proper care of her guns, had them locked up and everything. What more do you want? You want them to be disassembled and scattered to the 4 corners of the earth or something?
 

st0wandgrow

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Lanza took proper care of her guns, had them locked up and everything. What more do you want? You want them to be disassembled and scattered to the 4 corners of the earth or something?
I'll ask again .....

Can you link me to an article the explicitly states that her guns were locked in a safe? If you can't, then quit throwing that out there pretending it's a fact. I've already stated that I would look at this differently if she took reasonable steps to ensure that her guns were being properly stored.
 

Canna Sylvan

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Then why did you mention her? You did it because liberals are rude, who have no respect for others. If it could've been about anyone else you would've. The dead make easy targets for your vile vitrol.

Why do you want to blame the mother? She was a victim. Why not blame the parents of those kids killed too, while you're at it. That school was supposed to be one of the most secure in the nation, yet one person got through, so the school if anyone should get blame. Your priorities and those to blame is very flawed.

The guns and mother have nothing to do with this. It's Adam Lanza and improper so called security measures which are to blame.
 

NoDrama

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If the guns were NOT locked in a vault, and were simply accessible to any random person that gained entry in to the house, does that change your opinion? It does for me. I think there is a distinction to be made with that. Locked in a vault=reasonable effort to secure her weapons. NOT locked in a vault= careless negligence.
Gained entry to the house? You mean like breaking and entering? You cannot be held responsible for someone elses crime in that case. Breaking and Entering is a crime as is trespassing and assault. No law exists that says guns must be locked up and out of sight in case anyone were to try and break into your home and kill you or try and break in to steal your shit, in fact I would think that the reason more people aren't murdered in their homes or have their shit stolen is because guns WERE available at that moment. Makes sense if you are you, but for the rest of us it makes no goddamned sense at all.
 

NoDrama

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Can you link me to an article that states that the guns were locked in a vault?

I'm looking for that, and I've yet to find it ....
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/nancy-lanza-feared-son-adam-worse-article-1.1221505

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/12/18/167527771/nancy-lanza-gunmans-mother-from-charmed-upbringing-to-first-victim

By every account on record. Ms Lanza was a responsible gun owner and always obeyed the laws. Her character is upright and responsible and she tried to instill this on her son. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that she did not use that gun vault her sister describes seeing.

If your child drives a car super responsibly and shows every sign of the perfect driver , has no infractions and behaves the right way, would you suspect that he or she was going to drive through a crowd of people then off a cliff in 3 days time?
 

st0wandgrow

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Then why did you mention her? You did it because liberals are rude, who have no respect for others. If it could've been about anyone else you would've. The dead make easy targets for your vile vitrol.

Why do you want to blame the mother? She was a victim. Why not blame the parents of those kids killed too, while you're at it. That school was supposed to be one of the most secure in the nation, yet one person got through, so the school if anyone should get blame. Your priorities and those to blame is very flawed.

The guns and mother have nothing to do with this. It's Adam Lanza and improper so called security measures which are to blame.
Will it help you understand if I type this out slower???

She is being brought up because it was HER FUCKING GUNS THAT LED TO THE DEATH OF 20 CHILDREN!!!!! If it turns out that she left the guns out accessible to her apparently nutter of a son, then I think that this is a very relevant item to discuss surrounding this shooting!!

And yeah, liberals are "rude and have no respect for others" says the guy that couldn't care less about how many kids are mowed down by guns in this country so long as he gets to keep his little collection.
 

NoDrama

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She was a mentally ill gun nut who had a mentally ill kid who murdered 26 people. She was a doomsdayer stockpiling guns and ammo to prepare for the end of the world and any psychological examination would have revealed this. Unfortunately gun nuts are against any type of mental screening for guns so this is what we get.
Do you have more than 3 pairs of socks, More than 3 rolls of toilet paper? Do you have more than 3 pairs of shoes? How about more than 3 vehicles?

Why are you stockpiling and hording all of those things? OMG do you think the world is going to end soon and they will be worth something? LOL you ever leave home without your foil hat? Any psychiatrist will tell you that 3 or more of anything is a sure sign of mental illness that requires hospitalization or imprisonment. Looks like we hit the jackpot with you, hopefully you don't put up too much of a struggle when the nice men in white coats arrive. I wouldn't worry though, I hear propofol has some nice side effects.
 

NoDrama

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And yeah, liberals are "rude and have no respect for others" says the guy that couldn't care less about how many kids are mowed down by guns in this country so long as he gets to keep his little collection.
What evidence has been shown to say that we don't care about those kids. This incident is tragic and thinking about those little tikes being buried right now brings a tear to my eye. How dare you label us as uncaring just because we want to express our right to bear arms.
 

bigmike77

Member
Lanza took proper care of her guns, had them locked up and everything. What more do you want? You want them to be disassembled and scattered to the 4 corners of the earth or something?
for people to have a reasonable dialog about this problem. You have posted several times they were locked, I too have looked for this fact as you state and I have fallen short to find it. The original question was designed to question the liability of the individual who decides to own assault weapons and why one would want to own said weapons.

I think its a fair debate to say someone with these circumstances should not have had these type of weapons, in fact NO one should have these type of weapon. Who on earth needs a device that can shoot high power rounds as fast as you can pull the trigger in the tune of 100 rounds or more b4 you have to stop and reload? Lets say adams mom bought him a M1 Grand. Maybe we would have had a few more children around, remember jared loughner was subdued when he had to stop and reload. How do you stop 100 rounds of death? Ban the ability to own large capacity mags.

look I own guns, I have a CPL and carry a GLOCK. I would love to own an AR-15 but there is no rational reason to own any of these weapons, including high capacity mags.
 
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