Advance Nutrients who uses them or has used them???

i had a mag problem that i dident fix soon anuff.

email468 said:

I don't doubt A.N. nutes are great. BUT if they are "designed just for marijuana" and "they are the best" then wouldn't there be just ONE program/feeding schedule? I mean they both can't be "the best", right?...

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I asked a veteran grower why an 'All in Wonder' job wasn't available. He said that a very good one used to be available, but due to government regulations it had to be pulled from circulation. He said stuff about the resultant compounds being unsafe for continual human exposure, and the ease of making them into explosives was an issue. He said that the all in wonder is still available but in its component form. One supposedly has to mix this all in wonder themselves without a thorough guide to ratios. Also, different strains and phenos uses nutritional elements differently, all in one just won't do with the variety there is...

I dunno if its true as I hadn't time to contest it. Miracle Gro is the only all in wonder i know of and its shyt for marijuana but great on other backyard shrubbery.

Yeah and the different stuff they have is for different methods of growing too. You've got the organic stuff, the synthetic, the stuff thats better for hydro, then stuff thats better for soil. All their products are the "best" Comparing labels from AN to other companies may seem like the other ones would do the same thing....but most other cheap companies put low-grade elements in... or put a very small amount of things in ...just so they can say on the label that they have it.

i have used advanced nutes and havent had a ton of success.

as a personal preference, i dont like to mess with mixing many different bottles of stuff, beacuse if you encounter an issue, its difficult to pinpoint.

i think they are good nutes but require good attention.

shenagen said:

Yeah and the different stuff they have is for different methods of growing too. You've got the organic stuff, the synthetic, the stuff thats better for hydro, then stuff thats better for soil. All their products are the "best" Comparing labels from AN to other companies may seem like the other ones would do the same thing....but most other cheap companies put low-grade elements in... or put a very small amount of things in ...just so they can say on the label that they have it.

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Also to add to this, they also have a high concentration, so it might take 2-3 of those 25$ bottles to equal one of the AN bottles. My first grow was with dutch master... Full line up... cutting leaves off left and right, deficiencies galore! the next grow I used AN and see NO need to ever change, you definitely get your money back come choppin time.

well said!

home.grower said:

I asked a veteran grower why an 'All in Wonder' job wasn't available. He said that a very good one used to be available, but due to government regulations it had to be pulled from circulation. He said stuff about the resultant compounds being unsafe for continual human exposure, and the ease of making them into explosives was an issue. He said that the all in wonder is still available but in its component form. One supposedly has to mix this all in wonder themselves without a thorough guide to ratios. Also, different strains and phenos uses nutritional elements differently, all in one just won't do with the variety there is...

I dunno if its true as I hadn't time to contest it. Miracle Gro is the only all in wonder i know of and its shyt for marijuana but great on other backyard shrubbery.

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I never mentioned an all-in-one. And I understand that there might be a different blend for different styles of grow.

Hell - i'm not even saying that A.N. isn't the best - it may very well be the best I don't know (and my main point is i am dubious that ANYONE knows). BUT what i am saying is - if it is "the best" then there would be only ONE line of products for any single specific style of grow and as far as i can tell that ain't the case.

i understand you might have to buy 1 or 100 products but if you want to grow hydro organically then there really shouldn't be a choice of the products you should use - you should use the "organic hydro" line up, right?

Or do they customize it by strain?

Its customized by growing medium and style of system....ie: You don't want pure organic if you are doing aero-spray as the nozzles will clog. It is better not to have just ONE option...the more custom tailored you can get , the better the outcome. Being the best doesn't mean that there is one product...being the best means that there is more than one product

Here is a link to their products page. Like Shenagen said, it's broken down for the way you want to grow not just a "one size fits all" approach. I called their 800 number too and a guy talked me out of a bind. That definitely eases the pain in the wallet. They put more good stuff and *purer* stuff, than anyone else. My only gripe with any of their products is the Sensizyme; it smells like a sewer and stinks up the whole room. I stopped using it as a result of that. Advanced Nutrients

shenagen said:

Its customized by growing medium and style of system....ie: You don't want pure organic if you are doing aero-spray as the nozzles will clog. It is better not to have just ONE option...the more custom tailored you can get , the better the outcome. Being the best doesn't mean that there is one product...being the best means that there is more than one product

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wow! i'm not trying to stir up trouble - just applying a little logic to the concept of "the best"

i understand and agree with what you're saying (except there are organic nutes that won't clog an aero system - not sure if A.N. has any though).

But once you define all those variables (style, medium, etc, etc.. etc..) there should no longer be a choice.

i'll use an analogy - the best gasoline for a commuter vehicle is not going to be the same as the best gasoline for a race car. BUT the best gasoline for a race car is going to be the best gasoline for all race cars of the same type. if it isn't - then it isn't the best - that is all i'm saying.

i also understand when you pay a shitload of money for something we like to justify it and consider our purchase the best. we've all heard the platitudes like "you get what you pay for" etc...
i am guilty of it too.

having said all that - let me add - something may be "the best" for you but that doesn't mean it is "the best" for everyone.

the punch-line to this conversation is i plan on using A.N. on my next grow.

I think we're all on the same page. This is what sealed the deal for me: YouTube - Nutrient Challenge

I think I just got what he wanted to know...The nutes that they say are for the short day resin producing ....etc plants(herb), is the sensi stuff....I'm 90% sure but I'll have to go to their site real quick.

OK...here it is. Read about the sensi 1 and sensi grow/bloom. I guess that would be the "one".

Advanced Nutrients Online: Base Nutrient & Fertilizers

Nice to see the thread still kicking it......lol