Advanced Autoflower Training, tips, secrets

tekdc911

tekdc911

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Trapper50cal said:
I thought about starting another thread but I feel like maybe this thread would be a better place for this...

Can we discuss pruning techniques specific to auto's?

Trimming, topping, scrogging, etc.

It seems like we need our own set of "Rules of Thumb" for this as a result of the ultra quick vegetative stage of Autos.
I may be wrong but it actually seems like with autos we need to actually promote a little stretching so things have room
to be moved around (scrogging) to make full benefit of the "canopy" effect. With Autos, the placement of the screen MUST
be lower than with photos. I like the idea of topping to create 2 or more "main" colas but I have yet to find data on when it's
safe to do so.I also wonder how much we can get away with as it relates to clearing out leaves to promote light penetration.

Some say leave it completely alone and to just use the tuck method to get better light to the bud sites and this seems to
speak to the light absorption requirements needed to maintain quality growth on such a speedy plant.

I feel like a lot of us newbs would benefit not only from knowing what components are necessary for good starts and good
finishes but how to effectively, physically care for them, independent of soil and light conditions.

What say the tribe?
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really depends on the strain
i wont cut more then 1 fan leaf off usually when i LST flat there is always one big fan leaf that covers the middle so ill take it off
i think thats why its called a leaf so you remember to leaf it there >.< jk jk
scrogging ,pinching , LST they are all for it
FIM and topping i would only do to a strain i have grown multiple times and know how and when it responds to it
i start LST at 4-5 nodes and i bend the top down to the edge of the container basically
if you lst them right there isnt much need to take leaves off for light penetration
 

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EverythingsHazy

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tekdc911 said:
really depends on the strain
i wont cut more then 1 fan leaf off usually when i LST flat there is always one big fan leaf that covers the middle so ill take it off
i think thats why its called a leaf so you remember to leaf it there >.< jk jk
scrogging ,pinching , LST they are all for it
FIM and topping i would only do to a strain i have grown multiple times and know how and when it responds to it
i start LST at 4-5 nodes and i bend the top down to the edge of the container basically
if you lst them right there isnt much need to take leaves off for light penetration
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lmaoooo

I agree that with auto's, you shouldn't cut off leaves if you can avoid it. Tuck before you Pluck.
 
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splat78423

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I grew a 2 oz russian rocket fuel by feeding it Verde by humboldt after the first month and it vegged like crazy.....5.5 ft. tall. but then I had to change light cycle for it to bloom so the Verde did take away the autoflowering capabilities of the rrf. 2 oz's and I harvested three weeks too early and it still got me high!
 
iiTzHaroon

iiTzHaroon

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DSC_0108.jpg Hey guys only just read all the posts in this thread, it's very informative!!

Here's my first cheap,ghetto grow lol

Genetics - Cream of the crop K.O
Cream of the crop Cash Crop

Potsize - 20lt

Nutrients - Canna Coco A+B
Cannazym
Rhitzotonic
Canna boost
Nirvhana

Also got powders - Ton-o-Flower
Ton-o-bud
Fox Farm Open Sesame
Fox Farm Beastie Blooms
The Heavies late bloom enhancer which I have still to use

I'm growing in around 70-60%Coco 30-40% Perlite

The K.O is I think 3 weeks into flower I'm not really sure as I lost track, it's around 2.5 feet its quite bushy more than the pics show, and has lots of bud sites

they have been grown under a 120w Led panel each, (not the expensive ones, some cheap China models) got them for around £45

It's flowering really slow, maybe cuz I filled the 20lt pot only just below half due to not having any soil left?

The Cash Crop is alot younger around 2-3 weeks younger, and I left it really close to the led that after a week the top had totally been ttoasted, I removed as much dead dry brittle bits I could, it's showing ssigns of growth which tells me it's still alive and hopefully will bush out, so I guess I kinda accidently topped it? Autos are quite unpredictable
 

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iiTzHaroon

iiTzHaroon

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Here's the Cash Crop before it got roasted!!

Will have to check up on them and see how there doing more pics soon, wish me luck the cash crop will bush out and, guys how can I maximise bud sites, it's mainly indica and it grew to look like it had only one massive main coala, how do I manipulate it for lots of them? I'm a real neewb, I have lst the k.o but just tucking the leafs and bending a bit but what do I do with the cash crop? It will be real hard to lst as the leaves are thick! And huge! Also the main stem is so thick the plant will not budge a inch?
 

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Beginnerofgreen

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Can anyone help me with nute info? I am not looking for what brand of nute to use. I am looking at a ppm amount. I mix my own nutes for growing. First run at autos. I am looking for a parts per millon amount so I can custom mix my own. I have heard they use less then regs. I run my regular grows at 150 to 200 ppm. thanks
 
tekdc911

tekdc911

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Beginnerofgreen said:
Can anyone help me with nute info? I am not looking for what brand of nute to use. I am looking at a ppm amount. I mix my own nutes for growing. First run at autos. I am looking for a parts per millon amount so I can custom mix my own. I have heard they use less then regs. I run my regular grows at 150 to 200 ppm. thanks
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rule of thumb with auto's is start at about 25% of what you would run with photo's and slowly work up
 
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Beginnerofgreen

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tekdc911 said:
rule of thumb with auto's is start at about 25% of what you would run with photo's and slowly work up
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Thanks. I use peters 20-10-20 with a dose of 20-20-20 once every two weeks. I also add Iron and Mag sulfate. Been reading that some guys are using this at a rate of 1000 ppm plus. I am a grower at a greenhouse. Annuals and perennials. That high of a dose would burn the hell out of any plant I have ever grown. Could this info be correct that I have been reading? Anyone have input on that?
 
tekdc911

tekdc911

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Beginnerofgreen said:
Thanks. I use peters 20-10-20 with a dose of 20-20-20 once every two weeks. I also add Iron and Mag sulfate. Been reading that some guys are using this at a rate of 1000 ppm plus. I am a grower at a greenhouse. Annuals and perennials. That high of a dose would burn the hell out of any plant I have ever grown. Could this info be correct that I have been reading? Anyone have input on that?
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you really have to work up to that but yes once your plant is established it may very well handle it .... the starting low and working up is due to the starting from seed variance / difference in needs from plant to plant
my auto party cup during flower was handling around 1200 ec mid flower so its very possible
 
tekdc911

tekdc911

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i use 8-8-8 general purpose granular in my peeat / coco/ perlite mix and then add nutes on top of it when they start to look hungry
 
janiking

janiking

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Hey guys quick question!! Should i start veg nutes on my auto jack? it started showing pistils 2 days ago2015-02-21 19.41.24.jpg
 
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