ttystikk
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At least buy a fucking emerald! Lol
Advanced Nutrients "What a joke"
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ttystikk
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If you really want to save money on nutrients, buy dry nutrient salts.
BobCajun
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I guess the phosphoric acid doesn't make it too acidic, according to their site. I would try it if I saw some in a store. Maybe I just never noticed it. Seems like it's probably about as good as FloraNova, just 2 parts instead of 1. I do like the convenience of 1 bottle though.
"This product is formulated with nutrient carriers that contain no unnecessary ingredients to interfere with plant growth, which can pollute nutrient solutions and eventually cause unnecessary vegetative growth. This formula contains no CHLORIDE or SODIUM and is formulated with calcium nitrates that encourage a larger and stronger plant cell structure. This formula is an all purpose Grow and Bloom. Cogo’s revolutionized the fertilizer industry with their fine ground calcium and magnesium formulations. This fine ground process keeps Cogo’s Original Cannabis Formula in Ionic form even in cold water. Our npk is 7-0-5 part A 1-6-6 part B not water. Look at what you are using now and compare. Our fertilizers are clean in ionic form with a stable pH. Our formula is concentrated to give you more than in the industry standard. 1 Gallon of both parts can make up to 750 gallons of plant feed!" site
"This product is formulated with nutrient carriers that contain no unnecessary ingredients to interfere with plant growth, which can pollute nutrient solutions and eventually cause unnecessary vegetative growth. This formula contains no CHLORIDE or SODIUM and is formulated with calcium nitrates that encourage a larger and stronger plant cell structure. This formula is an all purpose Grow and Bloom. Cogo’s revolutionized the fertilizer industry with their fine ground calcium and magnesium formulations. This fine ground process keeps Cogo’s Original Cannabis Formula in Ionic form even in cold water. Our npk is 7-0-5 part A 1-6-6 part B not water. Look at what you are using now and compare. Our fertilizers are clean in ionic form with a stable pH. Our formula is concentrated to give you more than in the industry standard. 1 Gallon of both parts can make up to 750 gallons of plant feed!" site
ttystikk
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Da fuck you talking about, home boy?
I spend less than a dollar to make 50 gallons of plant ready nutrient solution.
I know exactly what's in it and what isn't. I can alter my ratios at will need on this knowledge, no guesswork required.
Trip over THAT dollar, I dare you!
fearnoevil
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This is, without a doubt, the STUPIDIST thing I think I've read on these forums!! If price isn't important, than I've got some "special" nutes for you, just $500 bucks a gallon, lol. Yeah, if you have more money than common sense, then go right ahead and throw it away, but anyone with even a modicum intelligence understands that there is no point in paying more for something than it's actually worth.
I think when they came up with that old saw, "A fool and his money are soon parted." they had someone like you in mind, smfh. If you think mixing up dry ingredients is actually any more difficult than mixing up a batch of over-priced, watered-down crap, I'd have to believe you've never done it, because IMO it's actually far easier, and I've also never had a problem with this "dust" you speak of (but then I'm not a commercial grower so I don't use large enough quanities to worry about either.
Once you understand what is is that you're trying to accomplish and what these plants need in order to flourish, then you'd know that MOST OF THE OVER-HYPED CRAP sold to growers is exactly that, way over-priced and/or just snake-oil and aimed at taking advantage of the gullibility of people who don't actually understand horticulture. And on the topic of over-priced, I'd include a lot of products labeled "organic" - don't get me wrong, I'm totally into organic, but I also KNOW that the nitrogen in the dry "chem mix" I use is the same as the nitrogen in the organic bat shit, and that on a cellular level the cells can't tell the difference, nitrogen is nitrogen no matter the source, and the same for a lot of other nutes.
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a mongo frog
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Whats the npk? Ill buy a gallon!!!! Link to the nutes?
ruwtz
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NPK 0.1-5684-981. MJ doesn't like nitrogen. They don't say whats in it in case AN rips it off, but presumably glitter farts and unicorn piss. Good stuff.
Psyphish
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Oh no! Someone doesn't want to MAKE A PRODUCT, but instead wants to BUY A PRODUCT, how horrible. I'm not a DIY person, that's why I bought a grow tent, bought a light fixture, bought coco coir in bags instead of bricks, I just want to plant a seed and watch it grow into a beautiful (potent) plant. If I buy a couple of bottles of nutrients every now and then I'm not going broke. I don't waste money on other stupid shit like smartphones or big ass televisions or McDonald's.
AN works, that's why so many people are "brainwashed" by them. I have a big smile every time I open my tent, who gives a shit about CASH, especially when it's dirty and you need to put it back into circulation.
AN works, that's why so many people are "brainwashed" by them. I have a big smile every time I open my tent, who gives a shit about CASH, especially when it's dirty and you need to put it back into circulation.
chemphlegm
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If saving money in the garden is the point.........Awesome!! then you win!
no need for posters to be mad at those that lose cash wasting it on bottled nutrients proven to work well for them
i got off the bottle years ago, but know many using AN for instance, and they are happy, they're patients are happy, and pretty sure thats all that really matters.
chemphlegm
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I dont use an. too expensive, for me when I was on the bottle. But wow, I never got upset at someone for wasting their money on products that work well for them aye? like throwing eggs at the hummer drivers, since a kcar gets you to work, got it.
I have done it btw, and it was much easier for me to crack a bottle open and read than it was to mix and measure individual basal salts. Happy though that you found a money saving technique that works for you! Everything is over priced today subjectively aye?
ttystikk
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That silly dust comment pegs you for someone who's swallowed the bullshit.
OneHitDone
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AN sounds like it IS formulated to be a simple measure and poor solution assuming you don't mind dropping the $$ on all those bottles. Like their Silica being ph'd right out the bottle making for less work in the res if you were in a hurry.
That said, I have not and have no plans to use it simply due to price and # of bottles.
I can see a lot of the "All Nutrients Are the Same" folks have found this thread, just know that they are not!
There are many different ways to incorporate elements and then when you bring in the bio-stimulants things get even more different.
Think there is a difference between a nutrient that contains fulvic/kelp or amino's vs one that does not?
That said, I have not and have no plans to use it simply due to price and # of bottles.
I can see a lot of the "All Nutrients Are the Same" folks have found this thread, just know that they are not!
There are many different ways to incorporate elements and then when you bring in the bio-stimulants things get even more different.
Think there is a difference between a nutrient that contains fulvic/kelp or amino's vs one that does not?
ttystikk
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Don't get confused between nutrients and beneficial additives. Nutrients- N, P, K, Ca, S, Fe, and so on ARE all the same.
Additives like humics, kelp, enzymes and PGRs are clearly helpful, while remaining not strictly necessary.
The advantage to the use of dry nutrient salts is in knowing exactly what you're using. If you want to use additives that's fine- but now you know and can add them with intention.
The money you'll save with dry salts will allow you to get plenty of additives and still come out ahead.
OneHitDone
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Half truth at best
Try to add to your powder the organic biostimulants that are in Flora Nova and tell me how you come out in reality on a cost comparison.
ttystikk
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Wicked cheaper. Did you miss the part where I do 50 gallons of nutrient solution for less than a dollar?
And if you're going to advise me of a half truth, where's your evidence, bro? You sure haven't brought any yet.
OneHitDone
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Are you adding Amino Acids to your mix? How much are they costing?
Kelp?
Fulvic?
I am a powder guy too, just making the point that all this shit is not "the same"
Anyone to think many of the top nutrient companies have not done some fairly extensive lab quality testing on ratio's, additives, etc. is just being silly
ttystikk
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For the third time, I'm saying that adding them yourself is not only still cheaper than water bottles but that since you know all the components, you're in better control of your grow.
The_Enthusiast
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The "best" thing about AN is their web site - it looks like miracle / funny TV ad. Buy my product and you will get 5 inches.
Than some witness that tried and really got 4 inches - it's a miracle!!!
I "miss" watching "miracle TV ads" but AN website reminded me of a time I was a child
Than some witness that tried and really got 4 inches - it's a miracle!!!
I "miss" watching "miracle TV ads" but AN website reminded me of a time I was a child
MickFoster
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GH MaxiBloom.