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Aeroponic clone bucket ??'s

Southside112

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I have a previously used 5 gallon bucket w sight level. I bought a 9 site clone lid for this bucket. Also bought a misting manifold to hook up to my water pump. Never tried cloning and was wondering if I'm on the right track. So if I understand correctly I just fill the bucket up with a cloning hormone solution a few inches above the water pump in the bucket. Then simply let the misting manifold spray the base of the clones until they root. Is it really that easy or am i missing something? Thanks.
 

joecanna17

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. So if I understand correctly I just fill the bucket up with a cloning hormone solution a few inches above the water pump in the bucket. Then simply let the misting manifold spray the base of the clones until they root. Is it really that easy or am i missing something? Thanks.
It could be about that simple, or just as easily end in miserable failure, realistically.

I'll try to think of a couple important details, to try and get the odds in your favor;

If you're going to leave the pump running 24/7, it's going to create heat, which will likely be your worst enemy trying to clone. The warmer the water, the more likely, and quickly, bad bacteria and fungi will take over, turning your stems to clear snot like slime, or brown mush.

Your options in hydro for disease control are generally either live beneficial bacteria and fungi, and enzymes...or sterile, using pool shock, bleach, or hydrogen peroxide.

If your water is regularly over 75f, save yourself a lot of time, money, and disappointment, and go the sterile route. The preferred method for most is pool shock with calcium hypochlorite, rather than sodium hypochlorite, as the main ingredient, at 1-5 ppm. With any of the sterile solutions, you'll have to reapply at least once per week, as they lose effectiveness over a couple days, depending on dose and product. 5ppm pool shock will last longer than say peroxide.

You can go live in veg and flower if you want, but with high temps, the bad stuff always outgrew the good, in the cloner, in my experience, running 80-90f water regularly. You can get by with higher temperatures a lot easier if your roots aren't always submerged, like with flood and drain systems.

If you're on a cold, cement, basement floor, you're probably golden, and may even need the extra heat from the constant pump. You generally want the water temperature to stay between 65 and 75f for most hydro, especially when roots /stems are always in it.

You could also get a short cycle timer, and time the pump for something like 1 minute on, 10 minutes off, or whatever. I personally do 1 minute on, 1 hour off. Saves heat, and energy, and it's the same timer as the veg system anyway. I use pool shock too though, after a bunch of other stuff that was ok, but just not quite enough for my heat.

Hope these couple hints help, and you get nice white roots in less time than you expect!
 

Southside112

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Thanks @joecanna17. I have an extra timer and like the idea of a short mist on a time interval. I have a rdwc setup already and have sothern ag and hydroguard if needed.
Cloning is just new to me so I need to gain knowledge before I jump in.
I bought a 9 site lid with collars to hold the clones. So basically they would be suspended above to reservoir getting misted once an hour and as long as my temps and bacteria are in check I should get roots correct? I also have a cloning hormone with instructions to diluting it for whatever volume I have in the bucket. Am I on the right track? Thanks all.
 

joecanna17

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So basically they would be suspended above to reservoir getting misted once an hour and as long as my temps and bacteria are in check I should get roots correct? I also have a cloning hormone with instructions to diluting it for whatever volume I have in the bucket. Am I on the right track? Thanks all.
Yeah, you should be, but it ultimately will be whatever works best in your personal environment.

Some get roots in days, some in weeks. Generally, you should have roots within 2 weeks, but some may be slower due to environment, and sometimes strain. If everything is perfect, you might get roots in 3-5 days, but don't expect it.

Try to take clones with nice green stems, thicker than thin, about an 1/8 inch diameter if possible. Cut at a node, possibly at a 45 degree angle, for more exposed root area, and cut under water if you're worried about a possible embolism. Otherwise, just cut it and get it in the cloner and wet with water or rooting hormone sooner than later.
Depending on your room humidity, you may still need a dome with an aero cloner. If they wilt after you put them in, you'll probably want a dome. It's more dry in winter, and more likely you'll want a dome too.

Oh, and always take more cuts than you need, especially while you're still getting the procedure perfected.
 

Southside112

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Yeah, you should be, but it ultimately will be whatever works best in your personal environment.

Some get roots in days, some in weeks. Generally, you should have roots within 2 weeks, but some may be slower due to environment, and sometimes strain. If everything is perfect, you might get roots in 3-5 days, but don't expect it.

Try to take clones with nice green stems, thicker than thin, about an 1/8 inch diameter if possible. Cut at a node, possibly at a 45 degree angle, for more exposed root area, and cut under water if you're worried about a possible embolism. Otherwise, just cut it and get it in the cloner and wet with water or rooting hormone sooner than later.
Depending on your room humidity, you may still need a dome with an aero cloner. If they wilt after you put them in, you'll probably want a dome. It's more dry in winter, and more likely you'll want a dome too.

Oh, and always take more cuts than you need, especially while you're still getting the procedure perfected.
Much appreciated man. Thanks.
 

PhatNuggz

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I have a previously used 5 gallon bucket w sight level. I bought a 9 site clone lid for this bucket. Also bought a misting manifold to hook up to my water pump. Never tried cloning and was wondering if I'm on the right track. So if I understand correctly I just fill the bucket up with a cloning hormone solution a few inches above the water pump in the bucket. Then simply let the misting manifold spray the base of the clones until they root. Is it really that easy or am i missing something? Thanks.

I had to reread your post to figure out you're using ultrasonic misters. They are bad news due to the high heat they produce

A simple air pump and a fine grain disk air stone works just fine
 

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Southside112

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I had to reread your post to figure out you're using ultrasonic misters. They are bad news due to the high heat they produce

A simple air pump and a fine grain disk air stone works just fine
Are the roots completely submerged in this setup? In other words are you just cloning with traditional bubbleponics? Thanks.
 
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