nuskool89
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I mispoke you’re right* Nazi Germany’s spine
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CunningCanuk
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It’s all good. I’ve never read anything that stated Japan was preparing to surrender before the bombs were dropped. If you had a link I would have liked to check it out.
HGCC
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Will see if I can track something legit down, but I don't know if that can be proven. We can't know what would have happened and doubtful we would ever get real insight into the situation from either side. Japan fought fiercely, but they had to see they couldn't beat the US and Russia. Their allies were gone, it was clear they wouldn't win. Japan might have fought to the death, it seems crazy that a whole country would go that way.
CunningCanuk
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This sounds like a lot of feels to me, sorry. Everything I’ve read indicates they were going to fight to the last man. The advent of Kamikaze bombers illustrates this.
Why would the Japanese people fight like that in the face of eminent defeat? Because the Emperor told them to.
HGCC
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Couldn't tell ya. I wouldn't fight. Found this thing from the Atlantic, idk, it's interesting.
www.theatlantic.com
Was It Right?
Most of the debate over the atomic bombing of Japan focuses on the unanswerable question of whether it was necessary. But that skirts the question of its morality.
CatHedral
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In the last months of the war, 28 million men and women were conscripted into the Volunteer Fighting Units. They received rudimentary training and equipment, including sharpened bamboo poles. They were also indoctrinated in “special fighting spirit”, a sort of terminal ferocity.
I find the idea that Japan would surrender without either the nukes or an invasion to be silly. The nukes made the desperation militia, and our likely brutal collision with them, unnecessary.
We needed the second nuke. There were plans iirc in case we needed more. By that time Hanford had the ability to turn out a bomb’s worth of plutonium every week. We did not need to invoke that “emergency capacity”.
CatHedral
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I am glad LeMay did not need to test his concept. Killing millions using conventional area bombing is still killing millions.Couldn't tell ya. I wouldn't fight. Found this thing from the Atlantic, idk, it's interesting.
Was It Right?
Most of the debate over the atomic bombing of Japan focuses on the unanswerable question of whether it was necessary. But that skirts the question of its morality.
hanimmal
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Budley Doright
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Trumpettes have no morals and are too dumb to know it
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CunningCanuk
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LeMay was a total wackjob.
CatHedral
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I’m ambivalent. On the one hand he ran a very tight ship at SAC.
On the other, he was America’s righteous purveyor of megadeath. I am grateful we did not need to see what he would do when seriously challenged.
CunningCanuk
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I was referring to his tenure on the joint chiefs during the Cuban Missile Crises.
CatHedral
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A gap in my studies. Got a handy link?
CunningCanuk
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This will give you some idea but any comprehensive examination of the crisis should cover it.
LeMay pushed some crazy shit and it actually rattled Kennedy.
Curtis LeMay - Nuclear Museum
Curtis LeMay (1906-1990) was a United States Air Force general.LeMay is known for designing and implementing the systematic strategic bombing campaign in the Pacific Theater during World War II. LeMay was stationed in the European theatre early in the war, where he became famous for his intense...
www.atomicheritage.org
he has that same Trump way of sitting kind of hunched over and on the toilet.This will give you some idea but any comprehensive examination of the crisis should cover it.
LeMay pushed some crazy shit and it actually rattled Kennedy.
Curtis LeMay - Nuclear Museum
Curtis LeMay (1906-1990) was a United States Air Force general.LeMay is known for designing and implementing the systematic strategic bombing campaign in the Pacific Theater during World War II. LeMay was stationed in the European theatre early in the war, where he became famous for his intense...
the 9/18 Rally is a few threads down. c'mon just admit that's why you're here- the festivities?