BudmanTX
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it's cool if they did......i can tell you this the CIA is still there......along with other agencies as well....js
Afganistan Collapse
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printer
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The US will work with the Taliban to combat ISIS.
CatHedral
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That money would have been better spent launching the green new deal. Mark these words in twenty years.
BudmanTX
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pretty much.....the enemy of my enemy is my friend approach......and plus the Taliban has a network from hell for information on the ground....i'm think maybe a bounty situation.......i could be wrong
PJ Diaz
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Biden's Approval Rating Hits A New Low After The Afghanistan Withdrawal
President Biden's approval rating slid to just 43%, according to a new NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll. The decline is principally due to independents, a key swing group.
www.npr.org
PJ Diaz
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It seems that every time we try that approach, even if it works in the short term, it fails massively in the long run.
BudmanTX
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that could be the case.....we honestly won't know.....it's a good approach though especially with the Taliban......guess we are gonna just have to see.......
doublejj
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Independents have always been a wishy-washy group....can't decide from one year to the next, playing both sides of the fence. Worthless non committal and weak. They will the first to run at the first sign of conflict. they fail the foxhole test.Biden's Approval Rating Hits A New Low After The Afghanistan Withdrawal
President Biden's approval rating slid to just 43%, according to a new NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll. The decline is principally due to independents, a key swing group.
PJ Diaz
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They can also win or lose elections for candidates.
PJ Diaz
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I dunno if I agree. Just let them fight it out themselves. The Taliban already outnumbers ISIS-K by 50 to 1.
Rob Roy
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You love your guns thats for sure.
Lucky Luke
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Many more than just two super powers. They defeat all the super powers. Even the mighty Mongols. Wonder if they would of defeated the Romans?
"Some of the invaders in the history of Afghanistan include the Maurya Empire, the Ancient Macedonian Empire of Alexander the Great of Macedon, the Rashidun Caliphate, the Mongol Empire led by Genghis Khan, the Timurid Empire of Timur, the Mughal Empire, various Persian Empires, the Sikh Empire, the British Empire, the Soviet Union, and most recently a coalition force of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) troops, the majority from the United States,"
Edit : Not all.
"One of the enduring myths about Afghanistan is that it has never been successfully invaded or occupied. ... Around 400AD, the era when the western Roman empire was crumbling in Europe, Hunnish invaders devastated Afghanistan. By the dawn of the second millennium AD, Mahmud Ghazni and his Arab army dominated the country.
Interesting read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasions_of_Afghanistan
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Rob Roy
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injinji
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We left them a ton of our best ballast.
xtsho
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If you look around you can find polls that have him at 49%. The thing with polls is that they can be off significantly. I seriously doubt that Biden finally getting us out of that shithole is going to have any long term effect on his approval. The initial media craze is what's driving his numbers lower. Most Americans are glad we got out and don't really care how it ended.Biden's Approval Rating Hits A New Low After The Afghanistan Withdrawal
President Biden's approval rating slid to just 43%, according to a new NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll. The decline is principally due to independents, a key swing group.
Many of those independents lean Republican rather than Democrat. Many voted for Biden because they couldn't stand the thought of a second trump term. But they were never a Biden fan to begin with.
PJ Diaz
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I think that most people unhappy with Biden on this topic, aren't unhappy with the fact that he pulled out, they are unhappy with the way we pulled out in what appears to be a lack of a good plan. I think you're right about Independents though, that's why I voted for Biden myself.
xtsho
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The pull out was messy but I don't see any other option. A date was set. That date was kept. I saw Biden's news conference and his statement about a prolonged withdrawal was right on the money. How long were we going to wait to leave?
trump negotiated the pullout long ago. People in his administration slowed down and blocked the process to get people out. People should have been leaving long ago. Why they waited until the last minute makes no sense.
And the negotiations trump made were just with the Taliban. The puppet government we were propping up were not involved. The only conclusion that can be made from that is that even back under the trump administration we knew that as soon as we pulled out the Taliban would take over.
I don't know how reliable this tweet is from a former Mike Pence aide but if true it shows that efforts were made to prevent refugees from getting out which wouldn't be surprising considering the racists trump surrounded himself with.
BudmanTX
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interesting
www.cnn.com
How Trump adviser Stephen Miller slowed down the entry of Afghan allies who helped the US
Stephen Miller seemed floored by the idea, raised during a fall Cabinet meeting in 2018, of keeping open the doors for Afghan allies and other Middle East refugees to enter the US.
www.cnn.com