AgSil16H in Europe

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cage

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Having trouble finding PQ corporations AgSil16H product in europe.
Could anyone point any stores in europe where one could find this stuff?

Doesn't necessarily need to be this brand, but I'm looking for dry powder forms.

Thanks
 
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Phytoplankton

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Lots of different brands on Amazon, but I have no idea if they ship to Europe, isn’t there a European version of Amazon?
 
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cage

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coreywebster said:
I found a few suppliers under lab chemical supplies.
Still expensive though.
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Yeah, I've contacted few companies.
Other hadn't heard of the product and other said it doesn't belong in their European selection.

Offseason for me, so got time to source it. Hopefully fellow european would have found it somewhere.
 
coreywebster

coreywebster

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cage said:
Yeah, I've contacted few companies.
Other hadn't heard of the product and other said it doesn't belong in their European selection.

Offseason for me, so got time to source it. Hopefully fellow european would have found it somewhere.
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Well I'm not in Europe anymore but certainly doesn't seem easy to find, bar expensive liquids with silly labels..

But alibaba did bring up very cheap options. How reliable the quoted prices and how tricky it is to import I couldn't tell ya.
 
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cage

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husita said:
I actually own about 1/8 of laboratory for drinking watter:), but never needed this stuff.

Could be this what you are looking for?

INPORO Kelik K-Si - AgroBio OPAVA

AEROSIL® 200 pyrogenní amorfní oxid křemičitý SiO2 99,8% | element-shop.cz
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Hmm, would the AEROSIL work as silicon source for plants?
Tho I'm not a chemist enough to know what the KOH below does.


"First, if using a solid, you need to prepare a stock solution no more concentrated than 45g/L. The recommendation with AgSil 16H would be to prepare a stock solution at 15g/gal and then using this solution at a rate of 38mL/gal of final solution (injection rate of 1%). To increase the stability of your AgSil 16H concentrate you can add 1g/gal of KOH. The end addition to your solution will be +9.8ppm of Si as elemental Si and +11.55ppm of K. The KOH addition and low 15g/gal concentration ensures that silicate will already be largely present as monomeric silicate anions. "

Google wouldn't translate from Czech :)
But gives me hope that it is out there, just gotta figure out on what language to search :)
 
husita

husita

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cage said:
Hmm, would the AEROSIL work as silicon source for plants?
Tho I'm not a chemist enough to know what the KOH below does.


"First, if using a solid, you need to prepare a stock solution no more concentrated than 45g/L. The recommendation with AgSil 16H would be to prepare a stock solution at 15g/gal and then using this solution at a rate of 38mL/gal of final solution (injection rate of 1%). To increase the stability of your AgSil 16H concentrate you can add 1g/gal of KOH. The end addition to your solution will be +9.8ppm of Si as elemental Si and +11.55ppm of K. The KOH addition and low 15g/gal concentration ensures that silicate will already be largely present as monomeric silicate anions. "

Google wouldn't translate from Czech :)
But gives me hope that it is out there, just gotta figure out on what language to search :)
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Really not sure if this is right for you. It´s used in cosmetics, toothpastes, medicin, pigments, cat WC!, making colours,...

Look at the density, only 50 kg/m3, I would be very carefull working with the stuff, it will be everywhere.

It´s made in Germany, Evonic. Hope german suits better to you.:)

How about that CARBON Si? Seems usable.
 
husita

husita

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CARBON Si
Scope and method of application
CARBON Si is a foliar fertilizer with a curant effect with the possibility of removing latent and obvious silicon deficits and with the simultaneous supply of potassium and carbon. Silicon has a positive effect on plant health and increases resistance to lodging (strengthening of cell walls). Carbon has a positive effect on the dynamics of photosynthesis. CARBON Si can be used for all types of annual and perennial crops.
PotassiumTowards2O - 5 %
SiliconSiO2 - 15 %
CarbonC - 1 %
Density1.2 kg/l
pH10,5 - 12,5
Packaging

One-year:
  • Potatoes
  • Diabetes
  • Barley
  • Oves
  • Wheat
  • Vegetable
  • Grain
Perennial:
  • Forests and nurseries
  • Grapevine
Fertilization works best just before and during periods of intensive crop growth. They can be combined with most plant protection products, in consultation with their manufacturers.
Dosage
0.5–1 l/ha. Recommended concentration: 0.1-0.5% depending on the condition, sensitivity of the crop and climatic conditions. The dose can be diluted with water from 200 l to 1000 l depending on the type of sprayer. Recommended application 1–2x per vegetation.
Storage
The product is stored in its original packaging, in dry lockable warehouses at a temperature from +5 to +30°C.
Fertilizer marketing authorisation decision
No. 3963.
 
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cage said:
Hmm, would the AEROSIL work as silicon source for plants?
Tho I'm not a chemist enough to know what the KOH below does.


"First, if using a solid, you need to prepare a stock solution no more concentrated than 45g/L. The recommendation with AgSil 16H would be to prepare a stock solution at 15g/gal and then using this solution at a rate of 38mL/gal of final solution (injection rate of 1%). To increase the stability of your AgSil 16H concentrate you can add 1g/gal of KOH. The end addition to your solution will be +9.8ppm of Si as elemental Si and +11.55ppm of K. The KOH addition and low 15g/gal concentration ensures that silicate will already be largely present as monomeric silicate anions. "

Google wouldn't translate from Czech :)
But gives me hope that it is out there, just gotta figure out on what language to search :)
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Refresh it and look toward the top of the page you should see Czech English tab. I just click english and get it.
 
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curious2garden

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husita said:
Really not sure if this is right for you. It´s used in cosmetics, toothpastes, medicin, pigments, cat WC!, making colours,...

Look at the density, only 50 kg/m3, I would be very carefull working with the stuff, it will be everywhere.

It´s made in Germany, Evonic. Hope german suits better to you.:)

How about that CARBON Si? Seems usable.
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Here's the deep dive that might help you help him. But you glancing at this might give you a better idea of the agricultural product he's hunting for. Also a good read if you need to add Si. I sent my water out for analysis and found I have enough Si in it. So my looking at Impello Dune or Alchemist Stout ended there.

future4200.com

Let’s talk silica

I like it because it is completely stable until mixed with water.
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husita

husita

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curious2garden said:
Here's the deep dive that might help you help him. But you glancing at this might give you a better idea of the agricultural product he's hunting for. Also a good read if you need to add Si. I sent my water out for analysis and found I have enough Si in it. So my looking at Impello Dune or Alchemist Stout ended there.

future4200.com

Let’s talk silica

I like it because it is completely stable until mixed with water.
future4200.com future4200.com
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Thank you. Never used silica fertilizer, my only knowlidge is from this article, in Czech:). Its about fertilizing barley in agriculture size, transate it if you like.

Výživa a hnojení ječmene křemíkem - Články - Agromanuál.cz (agromanual.cz)
 
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