Air pump to soil?

only water when they need it, over watering is worse than under watering, well, as bad anyway. i dig in to the soil about 3 or 5 inches, if its dry i water till it starts coming out of the bottom. the 2 biggest mistakes while growing are over watering and over feeding. most common mistakes i should say

i have to admit that i wondered this very thing myself.. adding an airstone to soil for added oxygen.. don't forget that people used to laugh at the guy who said why not grow veggies not in soil, but just using water instead, ie hydroponics... but look who is laughing now.. imagine all of the nahsayers on this guys riu of the day.. i am sure that people also said i have been growing in soil for 100 years, and i have forgotten more than you will ever know as well.. but this guy persisted in a thought that he had, and look where we are today..
no idea is stupid... this is science my brother.. you have an idea, you test it out.. do expirements with it, let others try it out.. let idea be proved or disproved.. and idea that has been disproved is never stupid, it is just an idea that has been disproved.. try something else..
and yes, airstones in your water/ nutes is a very good thing.. the extra oxygen it much appreciated by your babies..
best of luck with your grow, and dont let others persuade you from trying new and different things just because you idea sounds a little different to the masses..

racerboy71 said:

i have to admit that i wondered this very thing myself.. adding an airstone to soil for added oxygen.. don't forget that people used to laugh at the guy who said why not grow veggies not in soil, but just using water instead, ie hydroponics... but look who is laughing now.. imagine all of the nahsayers on this guys riu of the day.. i am sure that people also said i have been growing in soil for 100 years, and i have forgotten more than you will ever know as well.. but this guy persisted in a thought that he had, and look where we are today..
no idea is stupid... this is science my brother.. you have an idea, you test it out.. do expirements with it, let others try it out.. let idea be proved or disproved.. and idea that has been disproved is never stupid, it is just an idea that has been disproved.. try something else..
and yes, airstones in your water/ nutes is a very good thing.. the extra oxygen it much appreciated by your babies..
best of luck with your grow, and dont let others persuade you from trying new and different things just because you idea sounds a little different to the masses..

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AMEN BROTHER!!!!! thanks for the feedback and that is so true thank you you should check out my new babies in my new journal lol (headband and random lol)
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i had the same idea today. After overwatering i thought to put the air pump in the bottom of tha pot and let it blow clean air inside. Its the only way i can think to make the water evaporates faster. Additionaly i don't see in any case that you could harm the root system by just blowing air.

I am almost sure that if you make an experiment with two identical pots-soils.. the pot with the air-pump will dry faster..

Mr.Therapy Man said:

Your all retarded for putting air in soil and Im 50 years old and forgot more than you will ever know.....

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Yep were all stupid as all hell, whats your problem kid, The fact that you only go out of your way to reassure us that were all retarded proves to me your just a child, WE older growers don't act like this if you think it's a bad idea leave it be or provide evidence to back it up putting an air stone in your soil is up to the grower, stop lying about who you are and how old you are and what you know because you obviously don't know shit and your only giving growers a bad name.

Wow. Why come on a forum to knock down ideas? Esp. a pot forum, aren't you supposed to be chill/stoned? Keep up the good work thinking outside the box. its a very basic concept, roots like oxygen. If you don't mind watering a lil extra go for it.
And furthermore, why would you be a member on a forum if you felt there was nothing to be learned? nothing you don't already know? If you really know everything why aren't you out on other threads spreading the word and helping? Instead you use your well of infinite information to put people down? For a god (cuz imo only a god would know EVERYTHING) you sure spend your time on sum Petty s**t.

Talrox said:

Yep were all stupid as all hell, whats your problem kid, The fact that you only go out of your way to reassure us that were all retarded proves to me your just a child, WE older growers don't act like this if you think it's a bad idea leave it be or provide evidence to back it up putting an air stone in your soil is up to the grower, stop lying about who you are and how old you are and what you know because you obviously don't know shit and your only giving growers a bad name.

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Well said! This guy talks like my 12 year old nephew when he is upset.

I would give the airstone a shot its not going to hurt! +rep

slk said:

this is why you let your soil dry out compleatly so oxegen Will get to the roots. I don't see where it would hurt but just watch your moisture in the soil. keep us posted

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i would think it would cause uneven drying of the soil unless u put like a bunch in there and i mean a bunch

I used to grow in kiddie pools. I would use 5 x 7 gallons per kiddie pool. I put 2 air stones in the bottom of pot, then filled it up 5 inches of hydroton then fill the rest of the pot with coco. But this is nothing new though it's just bottom feeding.

so this post is old as shit and im sure no one cares anymore but for future reference to anyone that might stumble upon this from a google search. I hope your still around @Mr.Therapy Man actually mister grow genius you are the fucking retard you worthless piece of shit who the fuck do u think you are talking to people like that. I hope u get hit by a fucking bus u little worthless bitch fuck you if u were around me id send ur old ass to the fucking hospital. this is why u were adopted and your parents always called you a reject fuck u.

now on to the matter at hand. I have a phd in plant science and Adding oxygen to you soil will feed the roots oxygen (something that they desperately need) and help aerate the soil. if you have the time and money there is an experiment that can prove this point. go dig up some dirt from outside and use it to grow a plant. then, on the second plant go get some good fluffy light weight soil. you will notice that the plant grown in the light fluffy soil is growing bigger faster and better because the fluffy soil has small air pockets in it that the roots can access freely while the one stuck in regular old dirt is struggling. even if you add the same nutes to each pot the one in the fluffy soil will look better. but why??? this is because when u pick a lighter soil the roots don't have to fight so hard to get oxy while the other which would be encased In dirt has to fight harder for it due to the harder texture of the dirt. I have added air stones to the bottem of my soil for many years with amazing results. air stones in soil will also help fight against over watering and root disease.

and to all of you new growers. brahs don't let uneducated pieces of garbage like mr.failedatlife tell you that you are wrong or "retarded" a real grower that actually know whats up will help u instead of hinder you. and we most assuredly wouldn't call you such atrocious names for simply asking a question. and to the forum mod that is feeling like I may have went a bit to far. bro u let him call these new growers retarded more than once and get away with it. so if his gets to stay so should this for at least 1 reason. u know how discouraging people can be especially in this field. someone has to stand up for the new guys and snap back on people like him. don't ever listen to the bull shit and never give up because I promise you, people like that guy cant really grown anything worth while so they take their UTTER FAILURs out on other people and that my friends is how narcissism works.

Mr.Therapy Man said:

Thats retarded dude!

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Don't listen to this guy, he's doesn't know what the fck he is talking about and decided to display to the world the whole pot kettle proverb.

There is actually well documented tests that show that soil watered with oxygenated water out performs normal water feedings. So though the air-hose to soil wouldn't work, the idea is solid, more o2 to the soil, you just got the delivery method wrong. The tests done were with air-bubbles so small that they stay in the water a lot longer. I forget the guy who does it, in New England, but he has a patent on it and sells to commercial farmers (not cannabis). So yeah, it's solid.

DaFreak said:

Don't listen to this guy, he's doesn't know what the fck he is talking about and decided to display to the world the whole pot kettle proverb.

There is actually well documented tests that show that soil watered with oxygenated water out performs normal water feedings. So though the air-hose to soil wouldn't work, the idea is solid, more o2 to the soil, you just got the delivery method wrong. The tests done were with air-bubbles so small that they stay in the water a lot longer. I forget the guy who does it, in New England, but he has a patent on it and sells to commercial farmers (not cannabis). So yeah, it's solid.

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Air dries dirt. No means of transmission. Duh. Must be dissolved in a solution and captured to be moved. Keep the humor and thoughts coming. I tinker. But only after understanding the very basic physics of the thought.

I have oxygenated water at 6% for limited time offer of $29.95 / Qt. if you really want added oxygen to reach your roots. Kills most bennies in the process.

TY. Been a fun run.

MICHI-CAN said:

Air dries dirt. No means of transmission. Duh. Must be dissolved in a solution and captured to be moved. Keep the humor and thoughts coming. I tinker. But only after understanding the very basic physics of the thought.

I have oxygenated water at 6% for limited time offer of $29.95 / Qt. if you really want added oxygen to reach your roots. Kills most bennies in the process.

TY. Been a fun run.

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I’ll get the info for you, commercial application with data to back it up. Not like these guys who have millions on the line don’t do their homework.

not saying at all that your wrong. I still have a lot to learn but from textbooks from school this is my opinion...which is prolly wrong lol. oxygen is a gas unless cooled to an outrageously low temp. water does not trap more oxygen molecules because if it did it would make it not water at all but rather it would add new oxy mols making it a whole different substance completely. if there is a such thing as oxy water then for it to actually work u would have to add liquid oxy to it which in turn wouldn't work anyway because it would just turn back into gas and escape the liquid like gas does. the idea of pumping oxy into a bottle of water and selling it to people is robbery. you would need more than an air pump to get that job done. I know that in this field it is hard to let go of what you have read because you believe in it so much but the reality is that most people havnt been in the lab and most people havnt seen how cell structure works. when you look at a plant on a molecular level you learn a lot about what is real and what is myth and the spread of misinformation is a real problem in this field.

This is not what I originally read but same info


Hyper-oxygenation of irrigation water has many benefits
Hyper-oxygenating irrigation water significantly improves plants resistance to stress & diseases. Research has clearly shown that tomato plants inoculated with Pythium F. remained healthy when irrigated with hyper-oxygenated water and showed a significant decrease in root colonisation by the pathogen, in comparison plants treated with normal water perished4.

Hyper-oxygenation also increases plants tolerance to salt5, 6. Hyper-oxygenating water increases nutrient uptake and conversion efficiency which enhances the growth and development of roots, vegetative and flowering characteristics. For instance, oxygen will oxidise organic phosphate into inorganic phosphate which can then be readily used by plants. The benefits apply to the cultivation of all plants, be it vegetables, herbs, bulbs, ornamentals, cut flowers, grass and arboriculture. Nematodes will also be less of a problem as they will avoid all areas where hyper-oxygenated water is present.

Hyper-oxygenating irrigation water can lead to yield increase varying between 5-96% depending on crop type and soil type. It can also significantly increase water efficiency with savings of up to 27% compared to non-oxygenated water7.

plantDR said:

not saying at all that your wrong. I still have a lot to learn but from textbooks from school this is my opinion...which is prolly wrong lol. oxygen is a gas unless cooled to an outrageously low temp. water does not trap more oxygen molecules because if it did it would make it not water at all but rather it would add new oxy mols making it a whole different substance completely. if there is a such thing as oxy water then for it to actually work u would have to add liquid oxy to it which in turn wouldn't work anyway because it would just turn back into gas and escape the liquid like gas does. the idea of pumping oxy into a bottle of water and selling it to people is robbery. you would need more than an air pump to get that job done. I know that in this field it is hard to let go of what you have read because you believe in it so much but the reality is that most people havnt been in the lab and most people havnt seen how cell structure works. when you look at a plant on a molecular level you learn a lot about what is real and what is myth and the spread of misinformation is a real problem in this field.

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Years of over complicating a natural process and hundreds of deaths on my conscience. No science. Just facts and a minute of logic.

Honest peace and best wishes to all.

"K.I.S.S.!"

ImarriedMARY said:

oh well that's not what i was talking about i meant i've seen homemade hydroponics with a bubble stone and airpump i was wondering if i added oxygen if it'd help the plants i wasn't going to flood it or anything i don't have room to flood lol it's a closet plant

but thanks for the feedback and sorry for the confusion

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Can you post a pic?

MICHI-CAN said:

Years of over complicating a natural process and hundreds of deaths on my conscience. No science. Just facts and a minute of logic.

Honest peace and best wishes to all.

"K.I.S.S.!"

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Dude it is Kiss, just used a different water source. Guy I know builds the machines for farms. Not saying the hobby grower can do it on a small scale, just that it’s solid data and results.

DaFreak said:

Dude it is Kiss, just used a different water source. Guy I know builds the machines for farms. Not saying the hobby grower can do it on a small scale, just that it’s solid data and results.

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Check out a "brownie" picking machine. I worked for or was friends with many an ag savant. Just wasting time on trivial pursuits. Any no medium method will benefit. Dirt your not seeing the reality.

most assuredly fair enough. like I said all I have on my side is what school has taught me and what I have done on my own. I havnt grown a lot of weed mostly vedgys and stuff so I have to believe wisdom over knowledge.

MICHI-CAN said:

Years of over complicating a natural process and hundreds of deaths on my conscience. No science. Just facts and a minute of logic.

Honest peace and best wishes to all.

"K.I.S.S.!"

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