Al B. Fuct
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ZEN MASTER
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Thanks
I'd say it's harvest time. 10wks is about right for soil.
Would that be for both the sativa and the indica?
a little off the subject here. i went into my grow area(one side indi's the other sativa) and the fan was mixing the dank stink with the sour sweet smell and it was amazing. and this is only bagseed. i can't wait till i get the nerve to order some high grade shit(hopefully that auto ak-47,learned my lesson, next time gonna do a flood-n-drain). have you ever tried that strain? but anyway like i said would that be for both or just the indicas?
Thanks man.
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newportbeach949
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hahaIs that the rare subcontinental stinker with the red spot on the forehead?
Al B. Fuct
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From your description, they're both pretty well ready. You could leave the sativa to flower another week if you like, though.
No, the AK47 that I grew was a manual and had a dodgy clutch, too.
In all seriousness, I wasn't overly impressed with AK47. It's one of those strains where the hype far exceeds the reality.
Easy! Are you running a hydro op with no pathogen control? Congratz, you have a pathogen problem! Don't wait until you have root disease before organising some means of pathogen control.
fitzyno1
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My next grow will be flood and drain like yours, but for the mean time, i'm doing this grow in 8 X 5 gallon buckets and a 90L rez. The only problem i can forsee is what we're discussing.
I've thought of turning the net pots round every other day, but i am going to LST them to the lids (eye hooks screwed through the lids).
The only other option i've just thought of, is square 3" PVC piping. The buckets are 13" high, if i cut lengths of 10" square piping, and at one end i cut out 2.5" squares from the sides, leaving the corners, hot glue that 1mm mesh around where i cut the squares out. Then glue that end over the exit pipe. I will have 3 inches clear of an overflow at the top. If the root happen to clog the mesh it will go down the overflow PVC pipe.
Or am i just pissing against the wind?
NewGrowth
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Hey Al I have a question about you light placement in your grow room. Are your lights at a set height? I know you have two 1k's over four tables and from your pics it looks like you just placed them in between both tables. Also I know you use H202 in your rez, any thoughts on ultrasonic foggers? I have used them for a couple of years and they seem to be pretty effective at pathogen control as well. Thanks al 
Al B. Fuct
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Well, you can have a try, hard for me to picture what you're proposing. I think you may just wind up watching it very closely to catch it if it clogs...
My refs hang from Easy-Roll yoyos, which allow rapid change of the lamp height. Most of the time, the plants come up to the same height, so lights can stay where they are for the most part. I maintain about 300mm spacing between the cooltubed 1000s and the nearest leaves.
Foggers will have no effect whatsoever on pathogens.Also I know you use H202 in your rez, any thoughts on ultrasonic foggers? I have used them for a couple of years and they seem to be pretty effective at pathogen control as well. Thanks al
When I have messed with them in the past in aeroponic systems, I found that they were not tolerant of nutrient solns. Even submerged constantly, they tended to accumulate nute salts on the diaphragm, which eventually caused the fogger to fail. They are rather interesting things but I haven't found a lot of use for them in growing cannabis.
NewGrowth
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Are you sure about the foggers having no sterilizing effect Al? Here is a link NUTRAMIST MODEL 3 FOGGER @ FUTUREGARDEN.COM (they claim it sterilizes the solution) I use the foggers from this site and just clean the diaphragm in between rez changes and replacements are pretty cheap as well. Here is the link for them Ultrasonic Water Fogger-The Mist Maker I also use Ionic nutes which seem to dissolve pretty well in the rez which is recommended with foggers. Thanks for the info Al!
Al B. Fuct
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Absolutely positive. If there's a sales claim that says they do disinfect solutions, I think you're well within your rights to demand a full refund.
Think for a moment- what would the mechanism of killing pathogens with ultrasound be? Scare the little beggars off? Drown out their iPods? Annoy them to death?
You can test this fairly easily. Put a container of freshly mixed nutrient soln in a place that is exposed to light. If you are using tapwater, chlorination will suppress pathogens for 2-3 days. After then, you'll see clouds of gelatinous gack begin to form in the nutes. Those are the droids you're after. Now, drop your fogger in there and come back in a day. Remove the fogger and put in a few drops of H2O2. If you get fizz, there's still a heavy pathogen load in the soln- and I promise you that you will get fizz!
NewGrowth
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Cool thanks Al I guess I'm switching back to H202. Those things are pretty cool though. I have def seen very nice growth using them instead of misters in aero set ups though. I do clean out my rez with a mild bleach solution when I make changes too so that might be why I have never had any pathogen problems in my rez.Absolutely positive. If there's a sales claim that says they do disinfect solutions, I think you're well within your rights to demand a full refund.
Think for a moment- what would the mechanism of killing pathogens with ultrasound be? Scare the little beggars off? Drown out their iPods? Annoy them to death?
You can test this fairly easily. Put a container of freshly mixed nutrient soln in a place that is exposed to light. If you are using tapwater, chlorination will suppress pathogens for 2-3 days. After then, you'll see clouds of gelatinous gack begin to form in the nutes. Those are the droids you're after. Now, drop your fogger in there and come back in a day. Remove the fogger and put in a few drops of H2O2. If you get fizz, there's still a heavy pathogen load in the soln- and I promise you that you will get fizz!
Chumlie
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Oh Know its me again. Whats up?
Like I said I just got my ph down solution, and Im wondering do you have any advice on how to get the plants back to the happy days before everything went wrong?
Im worried about one of them being totally fucked up. It's top three leave sets are dworf and really scrunged up burnt, crispy looking. Should I cut that off are what?
Like I said I just got my ph down solution, and Im wondering do you have any advice on how to get the plants back to the happy days before everything went wrong?
Im worried about one of them being totally fucked up. It's top three leave sets are dworf and really scrunged up burnt, crispy looking. Should I cut that off are what?
Al B. Fuct
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Run the nute soln at the correct pH & ppm, change soln every 2 weeks, treat with H2O2 as we have in the past discussed, don't use any experimental methods.
got pix?
Al B. Fuct
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Sorry, it's nearly impossible for me to help diagnose anything without pix.
ZEN MASTER
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Hey Al,
Just wanted to let you know that thanks largely to your advice, the first grow went off without a further hitch.
Attached are a few pics..
Harvested at diff times,(a bunch of colas arent pictured) but id say prob 3-4oz dry
Thanks again for all the help!
See you when the next crisis occurs!! (shouldnt be long, next batch is 2 wks in so far.. )
Best as always,
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Just wanted to let you know that thanks largely to your advice, the first grow went off without a further hitch.
Attached are a few pics..
Harvested at diff times,(a bunch of colas arent pictured) but id say prob 3-4oz dry
Thanks again for all the help!
See you when the next crisis occurs!! (shouldnt be long, next batch is 2 wks in so far.. )
Best as always,
-\x0D
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Al B. Fuct
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Could be... but I think I'd leave out the bleach and use a somewhat strong H2O2 solution (10-15ml 50% or 17-25ml of 35% in 1L water) for sterilising tanks.I do clean out my rez with a mild bleach solution when I make changes too so that might be why I have never had any pathogen problems in my rez.
well, err, umm, I guess that's both good... and more than I ever needed to know about your sex life.
Good stuff, great to hear. All looks good- but your next will be better.Hey Al,
Just wanted to let you know that thanks largely to your advice, the first grow went off without a further hitch.
Al B. Fuct
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I tend to cull 'loser' plants, but I have 23 per crop and can afford to kill a few duds. I don't like manicuring stunted plants; they have just as many bud leaves to trim as the more productive plants but may only yield a fraction of the usual weight.
No slackers allowed in the flowering space, other plants will make better use of the nutes & light. I'm ruthless. I absolutely won't tolerate a waste of food, light- and my time doing the hated manicuring task...
No slackers allowed in the flowering space, other plants will make better use of the nutes & light. I'm ruthless. I absolutely won't tolerate a waste of food, light- and my time doing the hated manicuring task...
agreed ... this clone after transplanting into my op didnt resume growth as fast as the rest and now after a week really seems to be slooooow in growing.
i am not going to waste time diagnosing 1 single plant when the rest have no issues.
i think a cannibuside is in order
i am not going to waste time diagnosing 1 single plant when the rest have no issues.
i think a cannibuside is in order
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