all females?

jen griff

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I have 9 plants 3 weeks into flowering. All of them have white hairs. No signs of "balls" yet. Can it be that they are all female? I read that males always show their. sex first.
 

Weliveinapolicestate

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Males don't show first, you can have late showing males and herms. A friend took hundreds of male clones outside turning his year to shit after being told that so please never say that again. If they don't show after a few weeks I kill them.
 

Omgwtfbbq Indicaman

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yes, if they all show white hairs, you are quite lucky, as that is the trait of female. the ballsacks are males, some "females" can intersex, meaning- display both sexes when under stress or simply do to genetics. in the end, if you want to avoid females showing male traits(intersexing/hermaphroditism) try not to stress them in flower (12/12 light cycle) and take care of any training in the 15-18/6 vegetative state light schedule as they will not be producing buds and can rebound rather quickly. for some girls, you may not know what they can handle the first go round and may stress them too much or not at all. I take the Approach where i abuse the living hell out of my girls in order to test their stability, if they perform well under those conditions then i keep them and treat them like princesses and future harvests go well. i kill plants that show male stamen(balls and bananas). for photographic reference ill show you a "banana" which can pollinate your females and basically is a male sex organ on a female plant that spreads female pollen making herm prone female seeds


these are "nanners" aka bananas-nanner 2.jpgnanner.jpg



and these are even MORE volatile and threatening BALLS that males and highly male dominant hermaphrodits/intersexed plants display-View attachment 2624597

on the left is the male, on the right is the fmale hairs, if it has BOTH, KILL IT.
 

Omgwtfbbq Indicaman

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Males don't show first, you can have late showing males and herms. A friend took hundreds of male clones outside turning his year to shit after being told that so please never say that again. If they don't show after a few weeks I kill them.
this is not true, typically male plants(pure males) will mature in veg faster than females will, they flower for shorter period as well. this is an observable fact.
 

Omgwtfbbq Indicaman

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I used seeds that came from some weed I bought.
odds are they came from a hermaphrodite aka bannana/nanner popper. those are the stealthiest and hardest to find and tend to make a few seeds if you don't spot them. be weary of them and make sure you pluck them off while they are still small/green and or if you can find them while they are still forming. i personally just ripped them off with my nails and ate them as to not allow any further transfer of pollen.
 

SxIstew

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odds are they came from a hermaphrodite aka bannana/nanner popper. those are the stealthiest and hardest to find and tend to make a few seeds if you don't spot them. be weary of them and make sure you pluck them off while they are still small/green and or if you can find them while they are still forming. i personally just ripped them off with my nails and ate them as to not allow any further transfer of pollen.
yeah they are common with a lot of auto strains, at least from what I've read, I just found out myself(G13 Labs Auto AK) most of my main stalk preflowers have pollenated. yet none of the buds appear to be affected. that is unless the damage has already been done inside the buds. Question; I share a room currently with 4 mothers, no photo period. Do these "nanners" only affect the plant they grow on? because none of my 4 other vegging females have any signs of pollination.
 

althor

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No nanners will pollenate everything in about a 1/2 mile radius with a decent wind. If indoors it will pollenate everything it isn't seperated from.
 

Weliveinapolicestate

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this is not true, typically male plants(pure males) will mature in veg faster than females will, they flower for shorter period as well. this is an observable fact.
Your belief is pure faith friend you have no facts. If you did you wouldn't use the word typically. They "Typically" mature faster so what your saying is they can mature later as well then... (Atypically mature slower) but what I said wasn't true typically. Assuming a plant that hasn't shown their sex as being female is stupid. But go ahead put them back into veg get those unknown plants huge and believe they are female and cut lots of clones to go outside maybe sell a few tray too lol. I guess you've never done straight seeds outdoor have you should try it sometime. Go do like thousands of seeds then go back to pull males tell me then about your pure male faith/theory and observable facts of plants. (Sarcasm Alert) Your first picture shows a late hermie stressed no doubt. How can that be? That female should be "pure". If male impurities existed in her it would they not have shown early like the last hermie picture on the right ? No!? Isn't that an observable fact? Go back to buying fem'd seeds and stressing them so you can obtain more dicks/nanners to place in your mouth and swallow them like you do. :)

@Jen Griff - Bagseeds.. I've had great luck with bagseeds. I <3 free seeds. Good luck with your ladies.
 

Sand4x105

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Males don't show first,
you can have late showing males and herms.
....
If they don't show after a few weeks I kill them.
I also understand what you are trying to say, you just missed on how you said it...
Usually, it has been my experience that 70-80% of males show their sex first...
That leaves 20% to fukk you up later...males do not "Always" show first... just 70-80% of the time...
Also, a Hermie, is not a male... it is a female which turned Herm....
Bagseed genetics... could be, and do anything...

I have had a Female [bagseed] very nice and healthy plant, with no light leak or stress...
Turn Hermie 6 1/2 weeks into light change [12/12]...
With a Herm, you never know, and there are no hard/set in stone rules... except beware....
Another time, I cloned for sex, a switched it [to 12/12] with first sign of root... grew out, and no problem...harvested...at 9 weeks...
Then I took a clone again from this plant, and it herm'd on me...
I thought Fluke...
I had already cloned the mom, about 20 times...
So I put her into 12/12 right after a small clone of it...
The clone popped out some mini nanners... sheiot...took it out and killed it...
Then looked over the mom, with 6 1/2 weeks of good bud...wait one more day...
Next morn...
At least 50-75 nanners had popped out !
This in a 4x5' grow room...
Fukk...
Killed the mom, and all 20 children...
Lesson learned, if you see a nanner, you could be Fukked....
I was able to check the date of nanner, and sure enough, I had some calyxes get some seeds, maybe around 40-50....
ONLY, the buds that were viable with hairs, and plants in bud room for over 10 days...got seeds...
So out of 20 potted plants in Bud Room, I only got seeds where the buds would take the pollen in...[5 of 20 got seeds]
I really thought I'd caught the Hermie in time... over night nanners... look out!
And Good Luck!
 

althor

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Yeah the males turn first thing is crazy wrong.
Here is an example of the last batch I sexed...

4/5- CC - female
4/6 - CR - male
4/9- BL - male
4/10- FC - male (chosen for pollen)
4/10- CL- female
4/10- BC - female
4/11- FL - male
4/11- FR - female
4/13- BR - female
 

Weliveinapolicestate

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@sand4x105 Cut me some slack lol It was 4:20. I messed two things up first "Males don't show first" Should have had "Always" jammed in middle there. And 2 weeks AFTER the first plant has shown sex anything that hasn't dies (Indoors) Outdoors is different I get to them when I get to them, a little seed is no problem but plants that are no shows still get pulled when I'm there. I've had the same experience with 6 1/2 to 8 week herms but the buds produced little to no seeds or false seed pods, I did mist them with water to keep the pollen down maybe that helped. This was sometime ago, and it was some Burmese my friend brought back from BC in the late 90's turned out to be good smoke I'd like that again or a KGB. I find too that many bagseeds are fems but like you said you have to keep an eye on them.

This season I had 2 females show before the first male did and the last to show was a male (Outdoor in pots/buckets).
 

SxIstew

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OK so I should be seeing my other vegging females start to show signs of pollination?? because they are less than 4 feet from my auto. with an oscilating fan back and forth between them. yet no pistils have turned. i'm just trying not to fuck up everything I just started because of a damn auto. I've been spraying my mother's down once a day since I noticed the first male parts showing up. just to keep any pollen off them.
 
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