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Trichy Bastard
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I would never support a cannabis marketed product that uses a toxin like paclobutrazol to entice it's customers. If you wanna read more about the crazy crap going on, check out this article- we owe it to ourselves to understand the marketing we are being bombarded with, and also understand the sack you bought might contain this crap because the mighty dollar seems to prevail over common decency and morals nowadays... http://www.integralhydro.com/flowerdragon.html
Yes, it increases budz, yes it causes cancer and it toxic
Oh yeah, and the bottle is beautiful...
Yes, it increases budz, yes it causes cancer and it toxic
Oh yeah, and the bottle is beautiful...
Trichy Bastard
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But, if anyone is interested, Dyna-gro is one of the best nutes out there. Cheap, concentrated, you can throw out the ph pen too. It's so complete, you could use the complete AN lineup and still probably not get everything that's in it... And it's one part! All you need is one bottle of grow, and one bottle of Bloom, some mag-pro if you use r.o. water and some silica if you want... Check out Homebrewers head to head challenges for proof. Recently tested against AN Conoisser, and it won too.
No, I don;t work for them, and am ironically using Canna at the moment, because it was designed for Drain to waste, but I want to try dyna in this setup too... Been a customer for 20 years, they have been around forever, and are often used by commercial outfits for a reason.
No, I don;t work for them, and am ironically using Canna at the moment, because it was designed for Drain to waste, but I want to try dyna in this setup too... Been a customer for 20 years, they have been around forever, and are often used by commercial outfits for a reason.
TheTruSmokr
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Anybody ever put lemon or orange peels in there jar?
Shane1661
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Sorry man I just got back to my PC but yeah I just used a little bucket that came with candy inside from Christmas and I put three holes in it and put air compressor from old aquarium i had and it works great so far..down side u can only put 2 clones n it at a time o and I put some root toner Powder in the water ...I think that looks a little creative haha nice. I wouldn't mind knowing how you put that together. As my ghetto rigged cloner keep failing
Shane1661
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Yeah all the time i prefer the lemon tho ( I love sour stuff )
TheTruSmokr
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Thanks for the feedback man +repYeah all the time i prefer the lemon tho ( I love sour stuff )
Shane1661
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Anytime bro if u do put some in the jar don't leave them in there the hole time take them out a week before ur done ..
perkele
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I've heard about banana peels (for the potasium) don't know about the others
micko28
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wow thanks for the info dude you seem to hate this stuff haha did it hurt you haha just joken thanks so im gonna look into this other stuff dyna grow your going on about im using hydrocentre nutrients its australian and proud its organic and goes well but i wanna go to the dark side on my next grow and get some chemicalsI would never support a cannabis marketed product that uses a toxin like paclobutrazol to entice it's customers. If you wanna read more about the crazy crap going on, check out this article- we owe it to ourselves to understand the marketing we are being bombarded with, and also understand the sack you bought might contain this crap because the mighty dollar seems to prevail over common decency and morals nowadays... http://www.integralhydro.com/flowerdragon.html
Yes, it increases budz, yes it causes cancer and it toxic
Oh yeah, and the bottle is beautiful...
Trichy Bastard
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Really- I never heard that.. I believe most of the potassium is in the fruit anyhow.. What would potassium do to benefit a drying bud? There is however a psychotropic compound in the white inner layer of the peel, called musa bananadine or something... I tried the recipe from anarchist cookbook when I was a teen where you scrape a bunch of it, and lay flat on a pan and bake it into little crumbles, but it was harsh as hell and gave me a headache... lol I just use a small leaf of lettuce to rehydrate a dried out sack- it works like a charm, just put in in the bag, toss it in the fridge overnight and viola~ it also doesn't mess with the flavor. But I realize that's slightly different than what you're trying to accomplish with the citrus peels.
Trichy Bastard
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Nah- I never had any experience with this product (I hope). But what I hate is what it stands for. Too many nute companies trying to make a buck by selling products that either don't work, or work by some toxic mechanism. There is big bucks in selling nutes, and it's all smoke and mirrors. They try to make it seem like cannabis is some sort of high tech plant that has different needs than others- when it's really a simple succulent that is pretty hearty. The best nutes are ANY that are complete and you have adjusted properly, ph, and ppm. Make sure the roots are healthy and that they get good light- and you'll have way better buds than if you bought all the boosters and crap in the world, but didn't pay attention to the former things I mentioned. These guys almost perpetuate their existance by distracting people from what really matters, so they have all sorts of problems with their grows, then they tell you the problem is that you need more of their snake oil. Ever notice some of the best looking pics here are by people who keep it simple? I know that's slightly hippocritical because I actually have a high tech high pressure aero rig, but that's just having fun for me, all I feed right now is Canna Substra A+B and Flora A+B and some silica... Before this I used Dyna-gro, and man that stuff is what all nutes promise to be, but don't deliver, unless perhaps you buy 13 bottles of their crap. I think all new growers should use Dyna, because it's practically fool proof to grow sick buds. The ingredient in Cyco is like meth for your plant, it grows faster and more buds, and you can even get away with screwing up more, but in the end it's toxic, and if you grew properly, it would actually decrease your yield.
micko28
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makes sence to me u hit the nail on the head ill just stick to the organic nutes im using it works well and it dont cosh a shit load
Trichy Bastard
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Nice man.. There's always room for improvement, but it's more likely in dialing stuff in and reading your plants than going out and spending cash on another bottle.
nubbis1020
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So I just got done changing the water in my reservoir. I eliminated all traces of lime from my water. I added half strength nutes and ph down and got a ph of about 5.7. Right where I want it at. I am hoping withing a few days my plants recover and then sex. Also the second clone I cut died this morning after 3 days. So I cut another this morning. This time I took the time to do everything perfectly. I have a good feeling about this clone
wyteboi
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very good post trichy! every expensive bottle is a snake oil in some way or another. the cheaper it is the more detailed the bottle is. some of this crap dont even list the ingredients. (botanicare) they make decent products , but not listing the shit in it makes it impossible to buy. not to mention they have a whole scam ...i mean line, of coco nutes ? what the fuck is a coco nute ? that dont even make sense to a normal grower ?I would never support a cannabis marketed product that uses a toxin like paclobutrazol to entice it's customers. If you wanna read more about the crazy crap going on, check out this article- we owe it to ourselves to understand the marketing we are being bombarded with, and also understand the sack you bought might contain this crap because the mighty dollar seems to prevail over common decency and morals nowadays... http://www.integralhydro.com/flowerdragon.html
Yes, it increases budz, yes it causes cancer and it toxic
Oh yeah, and the bottle is beautiful...
this is the KEY to success , just read your plant and give her what she wants , not what the bottle thinks. it might take a long time to get it all dialed in but thats the only way to be successful.
soil
wyteboi
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nubbis , your plant dont have to show sex in a week , thats asking too much. i would say (depending on grower) that half or more of the species these days wont show sex till a couple weeks , an some will show pre's before it even goes into bloom.
thats nothing you did wrong. dont even think that way. you can fuck up everything on that plant an she is still gonna show sex when she wants to. you cant really delay that too much even with stress.
soil
thats nothing you did wrong. dont even think that way. you can fuck up everything on that plant an she is still gonna show sex when she wants to. you cant really delay that too much even with stress.
soil
mistyriffs
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great article. always good to see solid scientific evidence rather than grower vs. grower hearsay. +repI would never support a cannabis marketed product that uses a toxin like paclobutrazol to entice it's customers. If you wanna read more about the crazy crap going on, check out this article- we owe it to ourselves to understand the marketing we are being bombarded with, and also understand the sack you bought might contain this crap because the mighty dollar seems to prevail over common decency and morals nowadays... http://www.integralhydro.com/flowerdragon.html
Yes, it increases budz, yes it causes cancer and it toxic
Oh yeah, and the bottle is beautiful...
wyteboi
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are you using dolomitic lime in an areogarden ? there is just too much food in lime to use constantly like that. plus all the food in your tap water.
plus lime dont lower ph , it buffers it. so either way your ph is gonna stay between 6 an 7. which is fine for growing but the extra food will kill them. then if you want it around 5.5 or so then youll never get that low with lime. also in my limited experience in water its best to set your ph to 5.5 and as the plant eats it will raise the ph slowly. when it gets up to 6.5 then lower it back down and your plants will recieve every nute available between 5.5 -6.5 .
there is no "perfect" ph because different foods become available at different ph's.
the big bloom is more for dirt then anything else. its basically a soil conditioner and a food for microbes. i guess it can help in water too but thats beyond me. most will say microbes dont help in water. (my opinion is microbes help everything)
your just over worryin. no big deal.... it will make you better in the long run.
soil