ALWAYS some stupid shit
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darknezz
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dude, it keeps the humidity high which helps weak plants, its a basic well known thing. When you clone you HAVE to have domes or a seed starter and keep the humidity high.
Don't listen to me if you don't want them to stand up on their own...
There is no way its going to hurt them anymore...
Don't listen to me if you don't want them to stand up on their own...
There is no way its going to hurt them anymore...
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anberlinaddict
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I mean ill put cups on them and mist the plants obviously it will be very humid inside the cup thats obvious.
I guess Ill try it on 3 of the 4.. because one is doing fine and i dont wana fuck it up.
The cup idea.. hope it works....
How much should I mist the plants? Or should I mist the inside of the cup ?
oldhippy54
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i have a 1 week old plant that droops over till i water it and put some light on it. i also have 4 incense sticks holding the plant up{hopefully to strengthen it for weeks to come.}i am growing inside under 2 small lamps . still at 12 hrs light 12 dark.soil is really wet but it seems to be doing great! have you raked the soil around it...i heard that is good also. this is my first attempt and i threw a handfull of seeds in another planter just in case. if it dies...then i am going to get some more seeds and try again.GOOD LUCK!
anberlinaddict
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Ya know.. Im fairly sure I havent. I mean ive only watered them 3 times in 6 days. And one of the times I may have done just a TINY to much but i dont think i did. I should start measuring what i water them.
But honestly I just cant see that being the issue.
They are just Plopping over starting with a slow bend to eventually having the top of the plan on the dirt........
I pinned up one of them with paper clips.. i had to go to work so i havent seen them since 3pm earlier.... And i wont see them again for another hour and a half.
I really really hope that they are not all fucking dead when i get home. I spent almost 100$ for these 5 seeds and only 4 germinated.
LUCKILY i have some Snow white coming in that are feminized.
Ill tell you tho this is my second attempt at growing Lowryder and i had no success last time it was a male.
Im about to say fuck autoflowering and dwarf plants and do normal strains.
anberlinaddict
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I mean I propped up the one that was tipping the most... with paper clips.
Well see what has happened once i get home.
DO YOU THINK IT COULD BE STRESS FROM THE TRANSPLANT??? I MEAN I DID TRANSPLANT THEM LIKE 2 DAYS AGO INTO GROWBAGS.. AND IT WASNT A VERY GOOD EXPERIENCE AS THE SOIL BROKE APART AND I PROBBALY DIDNT DO THE BEST JOB?
Def sounds like overwatering to me. You will kill seeds in too wet of a mixture. Seedlings should not be watered at all until the medium is dry as hell. 3 times in 6 day sis way excessive. If the medium was properly wetted before planting then once in the first 6 days is too much. They don't have the root structure.
Please listen to this advice or you will kill a lot more seeds and seedlings.
Please listen to this advice or you will kill a lot more seeds and seedlings.
anberlinaddict
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I did not wet the soil before planting. So possibly overwatering..
will they recover? Becuase even before I watered 1 of them was curled up rela bad.. it was the RUNT of them all the first set of leaves were curled up since it sprouted and are still like that..
So if i dont wanter for a few days should they recover you think?
darknezz
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like I've allready said, flood them, and let soil dry out completly.
your soposed to water heavily when you transplant.
Get some superthrive really, its great for seedlings and transplants, 7$ at wallmart for a bottle that makes 1000 gallons, 1 drop a gal.
That sucks you spent that much money of weak seeds man, or soemthing is wrong, still trust me on raising the light. they dont need much.
I've had seedlings look like complete shit and they usually turn out.
your soposed to water heavily when you transplant.
Get some superthrive really, its great for seedlings and transplants, 7$ at wallmart for a bottle that makes 1000 gallons, 1 drop a gal.
That sucks you spent that much money of weak seeds man, or soemthing is wrong, still trust me on raising the light. they dont need much.
I've had seedlings look like complete shit and they usually turn out.
anberlinaddict
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Well im gona trust you bro.. and go against everything Ive read. And raise the light a few more inches.
What do you mean flood them?
This is what im gona do.
Im gona go home and see the status of the plants. I pray to god atleast 2 pull through. I have spent alot of time and money on this shit and honestly i will be very discouraged if I cant even get success with AUTOMATIC Flowering FEM seeds.....
I wont water anymore for several days... and bring the light up a lil bit more.
fuck this is so depressing I just want to get through 1 succesfull harvest. it cant be THAT hard.
darknezz
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it shouldnt be that hard man, my first seedlings I had good success, sorry your having a hard time. Those seeds should be strong. But yea they really just need the humid, less light cooler, mist once a day on plant and inside dome/cup.
flood them, meaning water slowly, or water half then come back and water until it pours out the bottom holes and soaks the soil, then let it dry completly out before watering again. thats what they like.
Feel free to leave me +rep if I have helped your plants here in a day or 2 they should look alot better.
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Where have you read that seedlings want it hot and the light close? only with cfls do you keep the light close a 250w hps is allot for a few seedlings. floros are really best for seedlings, clones and first part of veg IMHO, then mh for rest of veg.
flood them, meaning water slowly, or water half then come back and water until it pours out the bottom holes and soaks the soil, then let it dry completly out before watering again. thats what they like.
Feel free to leave me +rep if I have helped your plants here in a day or 2 they should look alot better.
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Where have you read that seedlings want it hot and the light close? only with cfls do you keep the light close a 250w hps is allot for a few seedlings. floros are really best for seedlings, clones and first part of veg IMHO, then mh for rest of veg.
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First off, what are they planted in? If it is just potting soil without anything to aerate the soil than soaking the soil with no roots is a very bad idea.
It will be stale water with no oxygen in it and they will "drown". It will cause the stem to suffocate and dampen off.
It will be stale water with no oxygen in it and they will "drown". It will cause the stem to suffocate and dampen off.
anberlinaddict
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Best 2 pics I could get sorry its on my phone
But ya there just drooping over hardcore like this..
One is shrivled up and i think dead.
One is standing super strong and looking perfect and the other is a midget looking one thats kind of curled up and this one thats drooping
I mean even the leafs have NO strength they are jus mushy feeling and look so flemsy..
this is the smae plant
But ya there just drooping over hardcore like this..
One is shrivled up and i think dead.
One is standing super strong and looking perfect and the other is a midget looking one thats kind of curled up and this one thats drooping
I mean even the leafs have NO strength they are jus mushy feeling and look so flemsy..
this is the smae plant
Londoner
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yep go with darknezz bro that hps is definately waaayy too close! Raise it up to about 2 foot above them at least, i used to use a 250hps start to finish u can get it fairly close when yr plants are a bit more established, i use a 125w envirolight for seedlings now and 600w hps in cooltube for the rest of the grow. And yr definately over watering too, 3times in 6days, crikey! 
oldhippy54
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man.i wouldnt be touching the leaves. they are too tender and young right now. same size as mine and i transplanted mine using a large spoon into new soil. believe me ..i want to watch mine all the time but I KNOW I WILL SCREW THEM UP! i also put some wet clods of dirt at the base of the plant to hold it up and the toothpicks will work if you surround the plant stem with them. its like having multiple stems outside the plant stem. i still take a incense stick and stir the dirt up around an inch deep around both mine everyday. after that...i just watch the leaf colors and let it grow. today i put a fan on mine to strengthen the stem because of it growing so much. it will need alot of strength to hold buds more leafs and like i said...this is my first grow too.Best 2 pics I could get sorry its on my phone
But ya there just drooping over hardcore like this..
One is shrivled up and i think dead.
One is standing super strong and looking perfect and the other is a midget looking one thats kind of curled up and this one thats drooping
I mean even the leafs have NO strength they are jus mushy feeling and look so flemsy..
this is the smae plant
speedhabit
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Seedlings can only have 3 problems, Moisture, soil, or light. You should not be using any fertlizer, seedlings dont need it.With an intense light like you have, it should be as far as it needs to be away so as not to cause signifigant heat build up. 1.5-3 feet with a fan on the glass.
The soil medium could be bad, anything with too much nutrition can burn seedlings. Im not saying thats your problem. could you mention your medium again?
I think you have a watering or heat issue, which is what causes my seedlings to bend and flex. Its possible that your watering too much/not enough. In those cups you should only need to moisten the soil every other day. Add water slowly till water begins to drop through the bottom, thats when I stop and wait another day. You need to get a feel for how dry the soil gets. I generally look at the top to see if the soil is very dry, then flip over the pot and look at the holes. If both are dry they need water.
How hot is it? Heat kills seedlings
Dont stir the soil with an incense stick, the inital roots are very delicate. Every week or so consider poking holes in the soil before and after you water to airate the soil. Stab, dont stir.
The soil medium could be bad, anything with too much nutrition can burn seedlings. Im not saying thats your problem. could you mention your medium again?
I think you have a watering or heat issue, which is what causes my seedlings to bend and flex. Its possible that your watering too much/not enough. In those cups you should only need to moisten the soil every other day. Add water slowly till water begins to drop through the bottom, thats when I stop and wait another day. You need to get a feel for how dry the soil gets. I generally look at the top to see if the soil is very dry, then flip over the pot and look at the holes. If both are dry they need water.
How hot is it? Heat kills seedlings
Dont stir the soil with an incense stick, the inital roots are very delicate. Every week or so consider poking holes in the soil before and after you water to airate the soil. Stab, dont stir.
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