America Before The Entitlement State

canndo

canndo

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NoDrama said:
I bet for every murdered neighbor there are 100 cups of sugar being borrowed. Even in your little shit-hole neck of the woods. You can point out that bad things happen but that does not make them the rule, only the exception. People are more willing to help a stranger than you think and even more willing to lend a helping hand if only given the chance.
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Ok NoDrama! I can consider you a virtual neighbor, please loan me $500. I will send you my address and an IOU in the arrangment. When shall I expect the check?
 
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NoDrama

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canndo said:
Ok NoDrama! I can consider you a virtual neighbor, please loan me $500. I will send you my address and an IOU in the arrangment. When shall I expect the check?
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Sounds good to me, send me a IM. We can only do $499.99 though. I will give you the extra penny out of the goodness of my heart.
 
Carne Seca

Carne Seca

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NoDrama said:
pretty sure they were talking about people and not government though.
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Our society must make it right and possible for old people not to fear the young or be deserted by them, for the test of a civilization is the way that it cares for its helpless members.~Pearl S. Buck (1892-1973), My Several Worlds [1954].

The test of the morality of a society is what it does for its children.
~Dietrich Bonhoeffer

A decent provision for the poor is the true test of civilization.
~Samuel Johnson, Boswell: Life of Johnson

The most certain test by which we judge whether a country is really free is the amount of security enjoyed by minorities.~John E. E. Dalberg, Lord Acton, The History of Freedom in Antiquity, [1877].

"...the moral test of government is how that government treats those who are in the dawn of life, the children; those who are in the twilight of life, the elderly; those who are in the shadows of life; the sick, the needy and the handicapped. " ~ Last Speech of Hubert H. Humphrey

"A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members." ~ Mahatma Ghandi


"Any society, any nation, is judged on the basis of how it treats its weakest members -- the last, the least, the littlest."
~Cardinal Roger Mahony, In a 1998 letter, Creating a Culture of Life

The greatness of America is in how it treats its weakest members: the elderly, the infirm, the handicapped, the underprivileged, the unborn. ~Bill Federer
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Pretty sure the words society, nation, civilization, and America refer to governments not people. If you (like I suggested) read up on the authors of these quotes you would know they are referring to governments.

tomahawk2406 said:
lol dude it was a joke
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Dude. Still ignorant.
 
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NoDrama

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Carne Seca said:


Pretty sure the words society, nation, civilization, and America refer to governments not people. If you (like I suggested) read up on the authors of these quotes you would know they are referring to governments.



Dude. Still ignorant.
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No, they refer to people not governments. So when I call you an American I am calling you a government? Society is government not people? A nation has nothing to do with people only government? I don't think you know the definitions of these words so here is a primer.
Those Authors were intelligent enough to use a word that means Government if they intended to say such.

so·ci·e·ty/səˈsīətē/

Noun:

  1. The aggregate of people living together in a more or less ordered community.
  2. The community of people living in a particular region and having shared customs, laws, and organizations.

na·tion/ˈnāSHən/

Noun:

  1. A large aggregate of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory.

civ·i·li·za·tion/ˌsivələˈzāSHən/

Noun:

  1. The most advanced stage of human social development and organization.
  2. The process by which a society or place reaches this stage.

a·mer·i·ca/əˈmerikə/


  1. A landmass in the western hemisphere that consists of the continents of North and South America joined by the Isthmus of Panama.
  2. Used as a name for the United States.

Hey Carne? Notice how NONE of those definitions mentions the word "Government"? The only thing I could even find that had the Government word in it was "Country"

[h=3]coun·try/ˈkəntrē/[/h]
Noun:

  1. A nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory.
  2. The people of a nation.
But it does not refer to government, it refers to people or the nation.
Words really do have meaning.
Have a nice day. 8)
 
WillyBagseed

WillyBagseed

Active Member
Government type

Republic is a form of government in which the people, or some significant portion of them, have supreme control over the government and where offices of state are elected or chosen by elected people. In modern times, a common simplified definition of a republic is a government where the head of state is not a monarch
 
canndo

canndo

Well-Known Member
NoDrama said:
Sounds good to me, send me a IM. We can only do $499.99 though. I will give you the extra penny out of the goodness of my heart.
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If you are serious then I am impressed and flattered. What interest rate will you charge?
 
canndo

canndo

Well-Known Member
NoDrama said:
No, they refer to people not governments. So when I call you an American I am calling you a government? Society is government not people? A nation has nothing to do with people only government? I don't think you know the definitions of these words so here is a primer.
Those Authors were intelligent enough to use a word that means Government if they intended to say such.

so·ci·e·ty/səˈsīətē/

Noun:

  1. The aggregate of people living together in a more or less ordered community.
  2. The community of people living in a particular region and having shared customs, laws, and organizations.

na·tion/ˈnāSHən/

Noun:

  1. A large aggregate of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory.

civ·i·li·za·tion/ˌsivələˈzāSHən/

Noun:

  1. The most advanced stage of human social development and organization.
  2. The process by which a society or place reaches this stage.

a·mer·i·ca/əˈmerikə/

  1. A landmass in the western hemisphere that consists of the continents of North and South America joined by the Isthmus of Panama.
  2. Used as a name for the United States.
Hey Carne? Notice how NONE of those definitions mentions the word "Government"? The only thing I could even find that had the Government word in it was "Country"

coun·try/ˈkəntrē/

Noun:

  1. A nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory.
  2. The people of a nation.
But it does not refer to government, it refers to people or the nation.
Words really do have meaning.
Have a nice day. 8)
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Very well reasoned and well put NoDrama.
 
mkbombadil

mkbombadil

Member
You were not alive then and you are delusional about how it was better in the past. What is true is this country peaked economically 30 years ago and the slow (or fast) decline will not stop. Americans are greedy and ignorant and most importantly lazy. We have the government we deserve.
 
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