Any tips? Pruning, nutes, yields?

Hey everyone, I posted my grow a couple months ago asking a lot of questions.
Most were answered and my plant has been growing quite nicely.
I just found out that I wasn't properly giving it nutes. I would give nutes EVERY watering. And, apparently, I was giving quite a lot.

Flora bloom 1.5 tbs
Flora micro 1 tbs
Flora gro 0.5 tbs
Cal-max 0.75 tbs
PER 2 litres of water. (usually do not use the full amount, but started lately)

From my plant I can see the "claw" I think, on the lower leaves, probably because I never gave fresh water without nutes.

What do you guys think? And what are opinions/tips you guys might have to increase final yield? Should I prune, or should I keep all those fan leaves and let the plant do it's thing!

200W cfl, Northern Lights strain. Coco-Coir.

side light that plant and you`ll get way more growth and yield out of it

you have to side light with cfl`s or anything more then a few inches in just ends up being fluff

THE KONASSURE said:

side light that plant and you`ll get way more growth and yield out of it

you have to side light with cfl`s or anything more then a few inches in just ends up being fluff

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Ya, I'm out of town for xmas for 10 days so I lowered it just incase they would get too close. Normally it's all within 2-3 inches.

I'm gonna add 2, 23watts though, just to get those dark areas.

Thanks for the input Konassure!

Holy lockout lol. What is your ppm runoff?

What are you growing in? I would give straight water a few times . Less is more

patrickkawi37 said:

What are you growing in? I would give straight water a few times . Less is more

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Coco Coir and some Perlite. Don't remember ratio but about 8:2 I think.
And ya, it was my own fault, I have a new feeding schedule I'm gonna follow which is much less nutes, and every 2nd watering - although I'm gonna give it a little break from the nutes for a week.

What do you mean by ppm? Generally I try to let the water run off about 20%. Earlier in my grow I asked questions about coco-coir and salts, and was told not to be concerned with that.

PH is measured as well.

/is it possible that this lockout saved my plant? I was following nute suggestions on the flora bottles, but online schedules seem to suggest MUCH less.

SHDH said:

Coco Coir and some Perlite. Don't remember ratio but about 8:2 I think.
And ya, it was my own fault, I have a new feeding schedule I'm gonna follow which is much less nutes, and every 2nd watering - although I'm gonna give it a little break from the nutes for a week.

What do you mean by ppm? Generally I try to let the water run off about 20%. Earlier in my grow I asked questions about coco-coir and salts, and was told not to be concerned with that.

PH is measured as well.

/is it possible that this lockout saved my plant? I was following nute suggestions on the flora bottles, but online schedules seem to suggest MUCH less.

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Your ppms is parts per million. Measuring the nutrient/salt levels in your water. If your not testing ppm or ec along with your ph than your not growing, your guessing. Salts will build up in your coco by giving too much nutrients , causing a lockout. Meaning the plant won't take up any of the nutrients.. So when you feed again.. Your ppm will skyrocket . Good rule of thumb with coco is, feed, feed, flush . Get a nice ppm/ph combo meter. I suggest the blue lab meter. Check ph and ppm of water in your res that your going to feed, and then get a catch tray for your plants.. Collect
Runoff and test the ph and ppm of the water coming out. When the water coming out is a lot higher than the water going in.. That means you have a build up and need to flush more.

patrickkawi37 said:

Your ppms is parts per million. Measuring the nutrient/salt levels in your water. If your not testing ppm or ec along with your ph than your not growing, your guessing. Salts will build up in your coco by giving too much nutrients , causing a lockout. Meaning the plant won't take up any of the nutrients.. So when you feed again.. Your ppm will skyrocket . Good rule of thumb with coco is, feed, feed, flush . Get a nice ppm/ph combo meter. I suggest the blue lab meter. Check ph and ppm of water in your res that your going to feed, and then get a catch tray for your plants.. Collect
Runoff and test the ph and ppm of the water coming out. When the water coming out is a lot higher than the water going in.. That means you have a build up and need to flush more.

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Thanks patrick for the great info! I'll look more into it and see how much the new equipment cost. I really wish advice on here would be more straightforward and facts VS. vague and guessing. Earlier on I was told I shouldn't even bother considering salt build ups.

I feed every watering and I've never had salt buildup or nute-lockout. I feed more or less depending on how the plants look, not a schedule from the nute manufacturer. If it's something new that I haven't used before, I'll start at 50% of manufacturer's recommendation.

mc130p said:

I feed every watering and I've never had salt buildup or nute-lockout. I feed more or less depending on how the plants look, not a schedule from the nute manufacturer. If it's something new that I haven't used before, I'll start at 50% of manufacturer's recommendation.

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What is your ppm runoff ? What are you pulling grams per watt? Plants like to be given straight water. Sometimes I will substitute with a tea. But In most circumstances when noobs are having yield or quality problems ... It's from using too much nutrients. So don't put this dude on the wrong track

SHDH said:

Thanks patrick for the great info! I'll look more into it and see how much the new equipment cost. I really wish advice on here would be more straightforward and facts VS. vague and guessing. Earlier on I was told I shouldn't even bother considering salt build ups.

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I don't know what feed your using, some nutrients have more salts than others. I use mostly advanced nutes, never over half strength, and quarter strength with most additives. I have to water; feed feed flush. I max out in peak flower at 1000ppms. I don't like to see run off any higher than 1150.

patrickkawi37 said:

I don't know what feed your using, some nutrients have more salts than others. I use mostly advanced nutes, never over half strength, and quarter strength with most additives. I have to water; feed feed flush. I max out in peak flower at 1000ppms. I don't like to see run off any higher than 1150.

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Floraseries. And I just ordered some advanced ph down over the shit I was using.

Dosent look that bad at all. I would just go with plain water for three or so cycles then start a feed/water/water/feed/water/water plan and call it good. No need to panic or take drastic measures. You will want to read up on Potassium build up in coco and its control. Probably one of the biggest issues coco growers can encounter.

Like suggested above, get side lighting, preferably an LED for better harvests and if you can, go hydro.

Alexander Supertramp said:

Dosent look that bad at all. I would just go with plain water for three or so cycles then start a feed/water/water/feed/water/water plan and call it good. No need to panic or take drastic measures. You will want to read up on Potassium build up in coco and its control. Probably one of the biggest issues coco growers can encounter.

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Did 2L Water only. Also noticed some leaves that have have black surface starting, looks sort of like pencil led.

mc130p said:

I feed every watering and I've never had salt buildup or nute-lockout. I feed more or less depending on how the plants look, not a schedule from the nute manufacturer. If it's something new that I haven't used before, I'll start at 50% of manufacturer's recommendation.

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Feed at every watering is okay if your watering to runoff . I would still monitor RO for ppm levels . If you have the ability to know what the plant needs by observations, you are that much ahead of the game . Peace