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ProdigalSun said:

If you want to take my guns from me, you're welcome to try.

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oooooh, an internet tough guy!

you can no longer argue the point because you are completely ignorant of history, so you whip out your e-penis (in the form of a gun, since it's probably lacking down there).

might makes right! historical precedent and the constitution be damned!

Don't feed this troll guys, his lack of integrity is epic and tactics are completely predictable.

[h=2]The rules of radicals[/h]

• RULE 1: “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood.
• RULE 2: “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.
• RULE 3: “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.
• RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
• RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.
• RULE 6: “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.
• RULE 7: “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news.
• RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.
• RULE 9: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.
• RULE 10: "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition." It is the unceasing pressure that will result in the reaction of the opposition that is essential for the success of the campaign.
• RULE 11: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.
• RULE 12: “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.
• RULE 13: “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.

UncleBuck said:

hitler expanded gun rights, simpleton.

you should brush up on your history.

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That's actually only half true. Hitler expanded gun rights to German citizens who were "trusted" or "qualified". So in reality gun rights were only extended to a specific group, that being trusted Nazi citizens. In the case of the USA currently I don't see many of us being "trusted" or "qualified" in the eyes of the government. I think hitler's act of denying specific groups this right is just as bad or worse then denying an entire population the right to own firearms.

"Shall not be infringed" is pretty fucking absolute.

TheMan13 said:

Don't feed this troll guys, his lack of integrity is epic and tactics are completely predictable.

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you got nothing, tina.

the constitution and the supreme court are perfectly clear about this, and you are in the wrong.

if you could argue it, you would. but you can't argue it, so you try to label me a radical for (GASP!) pointing out historical precedent and the words of the supreme court.

projection, thy name is THEWOMAN13.

ProdigalSun said:

"Shall not be infringed" is pretty fucking absolute.

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what don't you get about this?

"shall not be abridged" is pretty fucking absolute, but there are certain kinds of speech that are not protected.

a mind is a terrible thing to waste, so use your goddamn mind and do some light reading.

When lacking in an intelligent opposing viewpoint, first attack the intelligence, if that fails, go below the belt.

Rancho Cucamonga said:

That's actually only half true. Hitler expanded gun rights to German citizens who were "trusted" or "qualified". So in reality gun rights were only extended to a specific group, that being trusted Nazi citizens. In the case of the USA currently I don't see many of us being "trusted" or "qualified" in the eyes of the government. I think hitler's act of denying specific groups this right is just as bad or worse then denying an entire population the right to own firearms.

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you're right, i should have said that hitler expanded gun rights for the vast majority of the citizens.

no one but the deluded types like PS would argue that the holocaust would have been prevented if the jews simply had more guns though.

ProdigalSun said:

When lacking in an intelligent opposing viewpoint, first attack the intelligence, if that fails, go below the belt.

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i'm sorry you were so misinformed about history.

UncleBuck said:

what don't you get about this?

"shall not be abridged" is pretty fucking absolute, but there are certain kinds of speech that are not protected.

a mind is a terrible thing to waste, so use your goddamn mind and do some light reading.

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"shall not be abridged" cannot be found in the constitution. Anywhere

ProdigalSun said:

"shall not be abridged" cannot be found in the constitution. Anywhere

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

you got nothing, jennifer.

UncleBuck said:

you're right, i should have said that hitler expanded gun rights for the vast majority of the citizens.

no one but the deluded types like PS would argue that the holocaust would have been prevented if the jews simply had more guns though.

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That's exactly what I am saying. Similarly, events such as the 911 attacks and the CT shootings would have been averted if the supreme court had not abandoned their limitations and made up the rules as they went along.

UncleBuck said:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

you got nothing, jennifer.

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Thanks for making my point.

ProdigalSun said:

That's exactly what I am saying. Similarly, events such as the 911 attacks and the CT shootings would have been averted if the supreme court had not abandoned their limitations and made up the rules as they went along.

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that is delusional.

it took the full military force and might of several nations combined to stop the nazis, a few scattered jews with guns would have made no difference.

listening to your take on history is comical.

ProdigalSun said:

Thanks for making my point.

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your point is that you're reduced to semantics? you're welcome.

i habe no problem pointing out that you have been reduced to mere semantic bickering.

UncleBuck said:

your point is that you're reduced to semantics? you're welcome.

i habe no problem pointing out that you have been reduced to mere semantic bickering.

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Now who can't spell?

simpleton
simpleton reasoning.
go on with your simple ways though, ma'am.
moron.
silly goose.
might want to learn to spell, LOSER.
LOL!
you're tripping, sistah.
try again, sistah.
simpleton.
you should brush up on your history.
that's absolutely retarded.
gun nuts
if you've been doing this for years, i'd be ashamed. you are completely misinformed and completely out of your element. you are spreading disinformation and propaganda, basically just carrying water for the NRA like a good little bitch. stop lying to everyone here and get educated
and yeah, was just throwing shit at PS for spreading so many lies and trying to exalt himself as someone who has been "doing this for years"
junior
hint: it rhymes with ponstitution.
before opening your uninformed mouth.
you heard it here first, folks. any deluded wingnut
oooooh, an internet tough guy
so you whip out your e-penis (in the form of a gun, since it's probably lacking down there).
you got nothing, tina.
projection, thy name is THEWOMAN13.
you got nothing, jennifer.
that is delusional.
i habe no problem pointing out that you have been reduced to mere semantic bickering.

ProdigalSun said:

Now who can't spell?

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missing the "v" by one key is not anywhere near as bad as missing out on marbury v madison, heller v DC, and so much more while trying to sound like an expert on the subject.

ProdigalSun said:

hint: it rhymes with ponstitution.

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how did that one make it on the list?

The principal of the CT shooting lunged at the shooter in an effort to stop him. Did not end well did it? Now, if the principal had a gun, the bullets could have done the lunging instead, ending the shooter where he stood.

Similarly, the passengers on 911 that disobeyed the pacifist masters attacked the terrorists, and brought the plane down in a field, instead of the Capitol, which was its intended target. If even 1/5 of the passengers on those planes had a gun on them, (the approximate ratio of armed permit holders), I have no doubt that all the planes could have been lost, but those buildings would have gone untouched.