Anybody growing mushrooms willing to talk???

7L!fTeD24

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About to start trying out some new species and see whats going on with those. I hear the trips differ from cubes. I have some Natalensis tubs made up and gonna noc some jars this week with some Atl7, Mexicana Jalisco, and Tampanesis. Amongst some more cubes. I like all the TAT variations that are out. Like jack Frost which are really potent, gonna do some pearly gates too
 

7L!fTeD24

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I see some of you guys have some outdoor growth going on, I was wondering If I should bury my spent cakes out of my shoeboxes. I have a lot of woods around my house. I was thinking about making a little section To bury them all in And maybe see some of them grow in nature.
 

alphapinene

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I see some of you guys have some outdoor growth going on, I was wondering If I should bury my spent cakes out of my shoeboxes. I have a lot of woods around my house. I was thinking about making a little section To bury them all in And maybe see some of them grow in nature.
yeah definitely bury them all, not very deep. Bury them in cow manure and cover with hay and water in real good like 3 gallons, they took about a month - 2 months to start fruiting outdoors
 

Drop That Sound

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The plan:

1 syringe of each variety to 12-13 bags of 90 second rice.

Noc up about 24+ of the rice bags total, inside a still air box, which will also become a large mono tub afterwords. (Not sure if its better odds against contams to do smaller separate shoe box tubs, but i'm confident I can get the field capacity and everything right, and rather see a couple larger tubs fruiting than a rack full of them.)

Use oven tek with temp probe to pasteurize big oven bags full of CVG substrate. I heard you can add other ingredients to fight contams, but going to keep it simple to start with.

Spawn all the colonized rice bags to bulk, and put both kinds into 2 large tubs (like 40 gallon ones), that were both used as clean work areas to start everything with, with liners and a casing layer on top.

Add pond foggers that are suspended from the lid, and convert to micropore tape vents, once fully colonized and ready to fruit.
 

Drop That Sound

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I see they have those 2-3" round filter pads for vents, but I wonder if just micropore tape over the holes would work, or would polyfil be better? I could make large PVC bulkheads that could be capped off as well as stuffed with the poly, and look good. Lemme know what you guys think the ultimate ventilation system from fruiting tubs would be. I have humidity controllers I could rig up to the foggers. Even have mini hepa filters brand new in the wrappers, and could make some kind of active air ventilation around the tubs,
 

Drop That Sound

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Last but not least, when my magnetic levitation device ever shows up, I will stick the base under a shoebox tub, and add some spawn and substrate samples to a dish on the magnetic platform that is hovering inside the tub.

Shall we see how magnetically levitated cubensis grow, while suspended in mid air? Will some of them want to wrap around underneath the platform, in between the magnet and base, where the field is strongest, or will it repel them away? Any guesses to the effects of endlessly spinning around in circles? Will it just look cool? Stay tuned, cant wait to play around a bit. :)
 

7L!fTeD24

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Just did about 80 jars of wbs of 10 different strains this week. Spawning them all to shoeboxes. Ill post some pics.
 
why all the fuss about contams? its a fight against time, contams vs myc. if myc grows first & faster it wins. if it stays strong it keeps winning IE resists contamination. set up a big tank or tote for fruiting with a cool mist vaporizer plumbed (get creative with hot glue n pool piping & cling wrap) into its lid, on a timer few min every few hrs NOT FULL TIME = fresh humid, but not wet air, and no fanning. put air inlet at bottom of tank to push c02 out. Leave small hole in lid to exhaust out of. Cling wrap draped over hole or otherwise keep air in & junk out... keep cakes away from inlet. casing is only for contams in a pf jar, hello you open the top (taped holes) to the air and shove a needle inside, but the straw log method or grow bag method cant really have a proper pre colinonized casing. after birthing casing is a water reservoir. Misting is to replace water in the reservoir See "PF dbl ended casing tek".. think about this... is the air outside filtered? dont they grow out there? . if you cased all sides of a cake how would light cause pinning? ever see a mushroom house? not sterile. you are making an environment for fungus. give the good fungus a better start and it wins. brown spots in jars on otherwise white myc is from the water sitting there between myc and jar. it/they excrete a "juice" For a base wipe jar, flip it, put lid on bottom, put cake on lid. tape lid to band and you have a perfect container for a casing layer, easy. toss lids and bands when rust gets too much. micropore or masking tape made zero difference in contam rate. micropore allows gas exchange esp in bird seed quart jars. Go bird seed and horse poo. easier to handle than bovine dung, get the dried, grey horse nuggets, one 20ish cup poo "cake" can and will make 2oz/wk. Cheaper than rye berries etc. turn old fridge or freezer into 80 or so degree incubator for jars. put small, see TINY, ceramic heater in fridge on temp controller off amazon. get the sunflower seeds out of the wild bird seed. they float. or buy sunflower seed free stuff. pasturize poo in pillow case submerged in water at 160F for 1hr. leave in pillow case and drain overnight in slop sink. spawn it next day. layer poo spawn poo. top with spawn and case it. put lid on container, toss in incubator till colonized, flip/birth, case the bottom that is now top, put in tank with cool mist...they are phototropic, put a light over it 12 hrs or so. not a grow light. a cpl flouros per 100gal tank. not close. 4ft is ok. like any hobby more effort yields more results. dollar store had small totes years ago about 8x10 0r 6x12 and 4inches or so deep..good reusable cake molds and bases to elevate off tank bottom. birth cake on lid, put lid on bottom of tote., make a glove box. not out of advice but out of beer. toodles
 

Drop That Sound

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I like the thought of using larger fruiting tubs (100g really? Nice!), with ultrasonic fog plumbed into the lids, all automated with sensors to keep the perfect environment..

Seems like you would want the opposite of co2 for plants, and instead have the controller switch a small fan on when there is too much c02, instead of too little, and to bring in fresh hepa filtered air to displace it.

You wouldn't have to ever open the lid to check anything until you harvest the first flush, thereby reducing even more fuss about contams. Heck, if you have still air box gloves on top of each lid, with scissors inside, you could harvest right inside the chamber, and have a double ziplock containment area to bring out the product. Maybe you could get 50% more flushes this way? Keep feeding it new substrate and drag out as long as possible.

Man, I wish I had the extra time to master the arts of mycology. Too many other hobbies, ahhhh
 

A.k.a

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That’s all unnecessarily complicated.

unless you’re growing pans there’s no need to have a mister or fog or anything. Properly hydrated coir and the right amount of holes in the tub for your specific environment will maintain perfect conditions.

misting is not to supply water, that’s what the substrate is for. Misting is to maintain tiny water droplets on the surface, and if everything is set up correctly you won’t need to mist at all.

Mushrooms are much simpler than most people make them.
 

alphapinene

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That’s all unnecessarily complicated.

unless you’re growing pans there’s no need to have a mister or fog or anything. Properly hydrated coir and the right amount of holes in the tub for your specific environment will maintain perfect conditions.

misting is not to supply water, that’s what the substrate is for. Misting is to maintain tiny water droplets on the surface, and if everything is set up correctly you won’t need to mist at all.

Mushrooms are much simpler than most people make them.
How are pans compared to cubes? I heard they’re harder and more finicky to cultivate, was thinking of getting some spores to challenge myself..those or some mexicanas
 

Charles U Farley

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