Anybody growing mushrooms willing to talk???

canndo

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Just remember, your nearly colonized jars give off heat. I run hot because I monitor and I keep the jars a few inches from one another.

Thermal disruption begins at about 85. The mycelium will begin to exude a clear liquid and become more susceptible to infection. That exudate changes color soon afterward.

After 86 I find that the myc never really recovers. Thermal death begins to occur a bit higher.
Some say light early in colonization is a plus. I've never noticed that but I am a firm believer in light as a primary trigger.
This trigger only seems to occurr after the mycelium is capable of bruising and staining.

So the only reason I don't keep them in the dark is because it's easier to check them.

When you check on light as a trigger, remember that exposure to light in order to trigger need be only a few seconds.

After that, the light is only needed to keep the stipe short and the caps wide.
The quicker your full colonization the more nutrient is left for flushes but this is in dispute as well.

I am also a big proponent of a true casing layer. When I see some of the more successful folks pictures here, I wonder how much more prolific their crop might be with a half an inch of well managed casing.


But that is just me. These things will fruit in spite of our efforts, our exotic substrate formulas, our filters, complrx jars, misting, temperature variations and even genetic differences.

Keep that in mind and remember that contamination is multiplicitive.

Try to keep from contamination at your first cycles because you will absolutely get the green doom and from that point you will never again be rid of it.

All you can do from there is manage it with rh, ph and air flow.


Good luck. Post pictures.
 

canndo

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, I'm going to try this just to see if maybe that could be it. So I'm going to bucket Tek the CVG but I'm going to have to use jars because I have no bags on hand. How would I go about this with jars? What I need to modify the lid with a filter patch and how long at what PSI would I cook?
I don't use filters. I fill my jars 2/3 inoculate under lifted lids and shake early. Once I get full but light colonization I just open the jar upside down for a few moments.

The mycelium grows best in high co2, the filters allow too much of it to dissipate.
 

natureboygrower

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I had to inoculate in my boiler room to achieve enough warmth. I usually shot for 84 ° and I always had success. I now realize this is probably too high and got lucky.
 

Fangthane

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Hopefully this post doesn't disappear also. :rolleyes:

But anyway, the larger bag and one of the small ones were inoculated with a new Jack Frost spore syringe from Skeleton Crew. The other small bag was inoculated with a syringe I used in my first grow, in 2022. It seems to have evolved into a multispore liquid culture, but it's not cloudy so I'm assuming it's also still good.
 

Aeroknow

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Hopefully this post doesn't disappear also. :rolleyes:

But anyway, the larger bag and one of the small ones were inoculated with a new Jack Frost spore syringe from Skeleton Crew. The other small bag was inoculated with a syringe I used in my first grow, in 2022. It seems to have evolved into a multispore liquid culture, but it's not cloudy so I'm assuming it's also still good.
The last times i used some spore syringes i hit up some jars of LC broth. The three jars took off and then just completely stalled. No cloudiness either just stopped only after about a 1/4” of mycelium in the bottom of jar. I switched to LC syringes after that and haven’t
Looked back. Theres shitton of vendors for LC now. The list is getting bigger and bigger every time i look.
 

Fangthane

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I've only ever used spore syringes so far, and the first grow went awesomely with them. This thread seems to have become an advertisement for Skeleton Crew's stuff in recent months, and none of it seems to be remotely negative. While I guess that old-ass syringe could easily be shot, I have no real reason to think the new one has any issues. It's not like I'm seeing any contams going on, just nothing at all seems to be happening.

Not really a huge deal. But even the small expense behind growing shrooms is more than I can really justify, so failure stings just a bit more than with the average person who's got $$ to play with. It was meant more or less as just a fun thing about growing stuff that looked cool; with the little stockpile I have in the freezer, it's not like I'm desperate to produce some meds ASAFP.

Not sure if the seller is going to want me to send the bags back or not, but if he doesn't I'll probably cut them open to see if ANYTHING at all was growing in the middle.
 

Aeroknow

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No, I just taped over the needle hole in the SHIPs.
After injecting my grain bags i just tape over the hole with micropore tape and then some packing tape. I don’t use bags with injection ports anymore. Waste of money. With pounds only going for $400 dollars now bulk every penny counts.
 

Aeroknow

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Every bag I've bought so far came with an injection port. Possibly being overly anal by taping over the little pin prick, but seemed better safe than sorry.
I make my own LC jar lids. I tape over the injection ports once i stab them and after extracting from them to be safe :-)
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the unicorn 10T bags i get without the injection ports.
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7L!fTeD24

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Yeah, I don't use spore syringes to Inoculate anymore. If I have a spore syringe. I always make a jar of LC with it And then nock jars.
 

7L!fTeD24

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This last week While preparing cvg I've been Doing bucket Tek pasteurization then When it's cooled down i've been loading That CVG into Turkey bags and pressure cooking it at 15PSI for 2 hours. Do you guys think this is overkill? Or just right?
 

Aeroknow

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This last week While preparing cvg I've been Doing bucket Tek pasteurization then When it's cooled down i've been loading That CVG into Turkey bags and pressure cooking it at 15PSI for 2 hours. Do you guys think this is overkill? Or just right?
I do 2.5 hrs at 15psi. I do about 1.5 batch of cvg in each pressure cooker. So if you’re doing way less than that i’m sure you can get away with less time. Me, i’m sticking with the 2.5hrs. Grain bags and the bags of cvg.
I also, with the rocker off, wait until the air vent pops up and steam for 10 minute before putting the rocker on. And my trivets are about 1.75 inches above the bottom and i put about 3 qts of water in there so it don’t run out with the 2.5 hr
 
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Aeroknow

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The self-healing ports I've seen always seem to still leave a tiny open wound. Just seemed a no-brainer to try to limit any possible ingress points for contaminants.
The self healing ports on my quart size LC jars get a workout. They end up with gaping holes. I tape like i said before but i also replace them every new batch.
 
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