Anybody now anything about aquaponics?

Warlock1369

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Well my son loves fish and love helping me in the gardens. Was thinking of trying to set him up with a aquaponic setup for his in house veggies. Just looking for any insite. Might do this next year. Sticking with hydro over wenter.
 

Warlock1369

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Oh I should also say he's turning 4 so it will be small and easy but dad will be doing alot of the work. And yes he grows real veggies
 

moash

New Member
All u need is a rubbermaid tote
Air pump
Air stone
Net pots
Medium
Nutrients
Ph/Ppm meter
 

Warlock1369

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That's hydro. I got that down. Aquaponics uses fish to feed your plants. Basicly it's a fishtank As a res and a hydro setup. Just no idea on if normal fish food is fine. How many fish I would need. Stuff like that. But thanks for the help
 

jpill

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AquapOnics is dope ! I think the idea of nitrates being given off VIA fish by-product is genius ! I've been looking into this for a sustainable food source. Although I can't tell you exactly what u'll need I know you will need 20mm gravel hydro clay pellets as a medium. The fish ratio is 1 fish to every 2 gal of water . I'm not sure on the (liters of water VS liters of grow sPace) go on YouTube and search aquaponics. That's where i found it. ! Great idea I'm going to try this with veggies and perch fish !! Hope it works out for you.
 

moash

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You can buy the full movie,which should tell you everything you need to know

[video=youtube;HYR9s6chrI0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYR9s6chrI0[/video]
 

jpill

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murray hallams was the video i watched. more commerical aquaponic gardens will do 1 fish per gallon of water but murray's method does 1 fish for 2.5 gallons of water allowing the fish to grow in kilo sizes !! . great idea , i will try this when i get some capital for it !
 

Warlock1369

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Thanks for the info. I guess I really need to get some numbers put together. It will be bitchen to have a shelf contained organic garden in my front room.
 

moash

New Member
This is important if you use co2.....


"In our system, we started with a water pH of 7.6; and as the fish grew out, it went to 6.8 and stayed there until this winter when another pH influence made it go even lower. The previous winter we added a natural gas blue flame heater to heat our greenhouse and add some CO2 to the air to help the plants grow. This winter, the second one in this greenhouse, we experienced some very cold nights for our location and the heater was on a great deal of the time. It kept the temperature at a safe level but added an extra amount of CO2 into the greenhouse. The aeration pumps we use draw from the ambient greenhouse air, including the added CO2, and feed it into the fish tank water. This extra CO2 mixed with the water creating carbonic acid, and the pH plummeted all the way down to 5.8.

Once we realized what the source of our low pH was, we ran a tube outside the greenhouse and fed the aeration pumps from the outside air. Now the pH is back to a nominal level. Before we discovered this "fix", the emergency action was to do a partial water exchange to bring the pH back up to higher levels and reduce the feeding level until we figured out the problem and implemented the solution. Lesson learned.

This little story is to give you an example of what it is like to be an Aquaponics farmer. Just when you think you have it all figured out, it will throw you a curve, much like life."
 

Warlock1369

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Nice info on the Co2. But I won't be useing it. Putting the garden in my front room so my son can have his fish and veggies in eye sight so he knows to take care of them. Trying to get him to let me grow some ghost chillies. Wanna dry and make some rubs and chillie mixes. Hot damn! :)
 

postitguy

Active Member
I don't know about the science behind it, but I have a 25 gallon tank with a couple small cheap Petco fish and lettuce floating on top. I only run an air stone in the tank, no filter, and feed the fish cheap flake food. I've been eating the lettuce for over two years and I, and the fish, are great. My advise is to experiment. It will be a fun learning experience for you and your son.
 

Fishnet

Active Member
Warlock, AP is addicting, I'll warn you and others skimming thru. I'm new to this site, but I've been growing with aquaponics for a while. Some things grow better than others, but you need to know that aquaponic growbeds need about six months to season before 'flowering' plants do well. I'd start with lettuce, and move to tomatoes and peppers, then herbs. Nitrifying bacteria need to establish a population and they will go through spikes and poor water quality before finding balance. It is best to start with a seasoned fish tank and add tank, growbed, and fish volume gradually.

If you don't already have a seasoned fish tank, then start with adding some household ammonia to an otherwise complete system, including the plants but minus the fish. Once both the ammonia and nitrites have spiked and receded, then add fish. I shoot for 1 lb of fish to 5 gallons of water, to 10 gallons of growbed media (hydroton or gravel). So suppose you wish to use a standard 55 gallon aquarium. That will eventually support 11 lbs of fish and 110 gallons of gravel, or 22 five gallon pails. I grow catfish and tilapia, and eat them in the 1 pound range, so about 11 fish if they are all 1 pounders, or about 50 fish staggered in age to keep a perpetual harvest going. You can feed your fish commercial pellets. You will also have to add some liquid kelp for trace elements, possibly some Epsom salts, and definitely some chelated iron. Fish don't need iron, so fish food is generally not formulated to contain it.

Veging plants pull mostly nitrogen, and flowering plants everything else. Nitrates will accumulate harmlessly in the water while flowering and an abundance will be ready for the next crop, and vise versa. Or even better, use the same water to feed veg and flower in different rooms. Some folks use solid filters to prevent growbeds from getting clogged. I don't. I pump all the solids from the bottom of the fish tank to gravel growbeds and add a handful of composting worms to each one. Worms will eat the fish solids, uneaten fish food, and decaying plant matter (like leftover roots from the last crop). They re-consume their own wastes over and over again, each time gaining nutrient that was missed before, and the solids becoming smaller each time as well, until eventually the solids are mineralized into the water, making them available for plant uptake, thereby removing them from the system.

Sorry, long post. Anyway, happy to answer specifics if I can. Hope to start an aquaponic grow journal in a few weeks.
 
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