Anyone know about "household totals" i.e. OMMP + new legal status...

Dadioski said:

I suspect medical licenses and grows will in time go away and rely on the rec rules for personal growing, it kinda makes sense. They want to get a handle on the current "medical" grows that are producing 25 lbs. + per year with some in the 100's of pounds and a few in the 1000's of pounds. They cannot inspect these grows without a warrant and have no current guidelines for tracking sales to dispensaries, or surplus, that goes to black market. I'm sure they want to get a handle on this. I'm betting that medical goes away to be replaced by recreational in a general view. But they are not going to screw the dispensaries, they will roll them over to recreational sales and phase out medical. In the new law they want to be able to track from seed/plant to point of sale, so this will involve regular inspections etc. if you are a licensed grower, processor, etc.
I also heard that lawmakers are thinking of letting dispensaries start selling recreational July 1. If they do that with no prior provisions for extra bud requirements we could see prices soar, and this would also push current medical grows beyond legal limits to support the additional volume. We might get back to 4k or higher for a pound. This would drive the medical patients crazy. Oh well, all fun speculation.

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That sounds like a possible and likely scenario, since in many ways the rec laws overlap and make obsolete the med laws. Other than six plants vs. four plants, I'm not sure what the med card benefit would be (other than possibly cheaper prices, if one is taxed and the other isn't). It would be interesting when the rec laws are nailed down, to see the two side by side. I wonder what the most (in weight) you can have on you will be with the rec laws, how freely people will be able to trade seeds and clones, and if there are limits to how much you can have at one time in your home?

Speaking of, I used to have a link to a website that published the most current version of the law as its being debated, but I can't find it. Anyone have that?

People want to compare its legal status to our culture's dominant legal recreational drug - alcohol - but the basis for comparison seems to drift depending on the conversation. I wonder how the shift in the post-prohibition years took place. In that case, there had previously been an industry in place and all it needed to do was retool, in this case, it is largely a cottage industry that is going to go commercial (with a handful of exceptions).

And the moonshine business is alive and well in some places, before prohibition and after. That said, I try and stay legal whenever possible.
I get some good info from here.
http://www.theweedblog.com/oregon-medical-marijuana-call-to-action-senate-bill-844/

Here's an interesting read, probably has some over-lapping info, but on a good site for OMMP people to support: http://freemygreenpdx.com/topic/12145-amendments-that-will-severely-impact-the-oregon-medical-marijuana-act/

Currently a medical grower can grow six plants for up to four patients. There was an amendment proposed recently that would cut that number in half, to make a twelve plant limit. I don't know what happened with that.
Whoa. I just looked it up. That amendment was -6 on this list. They've since added more! Haven't read them yet, but it may be worth having a look if this sort of thing concerns you.

Edit: ...like Humanrob just said, in the post above this one which I didn't see until now.
It seems -6 was adopted...not sure if that gets changed again in any of the others after that.

note that the senate bill has now stalled (due in no small part to both sides refusing to give ground on how communities can ban marijuana facilities.)

I don't think it'll end up passing with all the amendments, we'll see how not passing anything at all effects recreational. But really, they shouldn't be fucking with medical, just making the rules for rec, so it serves them right.

Mind you, the whole one session every 2 years thing could be problematic if no bill passes at all...

Any updates on this?

Have not seen the full bill. But saw this. this am.

After weeks of stalemate, a state legislative committee has advanced a bill setting up Oregon’s legal marijuana system.

The approval of the joint House-Senate committee on Monday sends the bill to the full House, which can take it up as soon as this week.

The measure includes a compromise on local control, an issue that has stymied previous attempts to pass marijuana bills. The compromise would allow local governments to ban recreational and medical marijuana businesses in counties that voted overwhelmingly against Measure 91 in last year’s election. Elsewhere, voters would have to approve a ban on marijuana sales.

Lawmakers did not take up a separate bill that would create a sales tax on pot in place of the harvest tax in Measure 91.

Thanks for the info, July 1st is fast approaching!

Legit thread guys. Love hearing the community hash it out, haha pun intended.

These are exciting times, everyone!

Yes they are , planning a big freebie giveaway for my patients and friends of some Pineapple Chunk in celebration starting the first of July. I mean we are free at last, no more busts for having some smoke. Some people have waited for this day like good virgins obeying the law, I respect that, but for some it's time to drop your panties, and I'm glad to help in any way.

Yup, less than two weeks left, and then let the sharing begin! I'm hoping to assist anyone I know who wants to drop one in their garden, have a good healthy start to work with.

Dadioski said:

The measure includes a compromise on local control, an issue that has stymied previous attempts to pass marijuana bills. The compromise would allow local governments to ban recreational and medical marijuana businesses in counties that voted overwhelmingly against Measure 91 in last year’s election. Elsewhere, voters would have to approve a ban on marijuana sales.

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It would be interesting to see a map that showed which counties voted against it. I think its all public domain info, I just haven't seen anyone who made the map...

Uh... then I did a quick search and found this:

Here is one showing the names to match up. Up North Yamhill, Polk, Marion, and Linn. Douglas cover some ground down south.

Lane county is gonna be fine, west of cascades. Central and eastern Oregon....mm not so much maybe? What's "overwhelmingly" voted against? 56-44 doesn't seem overwhelming. Equal ish?

Just rambled thoughts...

Fingers crossed Malheur county doesn't ban and it's up to the individual towns. It seems the largest city in the county (Ontario) is realistic enough that come august 1st there will be medical disps in town (finally!) and if the legislator continues as it seems to be, the medical places will be able to sell recreationally as well until the rec system is set up. Should be good for the service industry of ontario and the other boarder cities around the state...

I intend to start carrying dime bag sized baggies to give out as tips for restaurants and the like. I've not been able to do that since amsterdam (always ask first if they'd rather green or cash, else it's a bit rude )

From an interesting OregonLive article,
Q&A: Everything you need to know about legal marijuana in Oregon

My spouse is a medical marijuana patient who grows 6 mature plants at our home. Can we grow an additional four plants under the new law?

A: We got different answers to this question from legal experts. Authors of the law say medical marijuana growers and patients may grow up to four additional plants in their household. However, Rob Bovett, legal counsel for the Association of Oregon Counties, called the situation legally "murky." The Oregon Attorney General's Office declined to give its opinion.

Johnson said he'd be hard pressed to come up with a crime that would apply to this scenario.

"It seems to me it's pretty clear there's no crime to be convicted of," he said.

Portland attorney Leland Berger, who helped author the new law, said he advises people to label the plants that are covered under the state's medical marijuana law so they can be distinguished from those covered by the new law.

Big news maybe. All those guys out there with 100 plant or more outdoor grows are drooling.
http://koin.com/2015/06/25/medical-marijuana-dispensaries-to-sell-to-all-adults/

The dispensaries I've gone to will have to completely redesign their facility. Currently, it seems to be a pretty high security situation where only as many people are allowed in the purchasing area as there are attendants on staff to help them. They are small highly controlled environments. Recreational legality, just like with the meds, is state not federal so no credit cards can be used, its going to continue to be a cash only business. So, thousands of dollars of cash and all that pot on site has some security risks. It'll be interesting to see how they deal with them. I've never gone to Washington to see how they do it, I'm sure there are systems that have been tested. If I had to design one I think I'd look for a bank that went out of business, and buy up their secure teller stations...

Congrats Oregonians we are getting our buzz on. Man thought I had a big stash and was prepared, July 2nd and all out, 2 calls for poundage in the last week took all excess I had.
This is so much fun compared to when 8 cops in swat gear busted the door down at 3:00 am, nearly killed my friends German Shepard and hauled us off to jail. (circa 197

One of the things I think is REALLY interesting is the fact that

Marion County -aka Salem
Linn
Polk
Yamhill Counties

all voted No on M91....and all have a relatively close proximity to Trimet, obviously, and all have some of the largest percentages of indoor growing too.....

Marion is weird because of their being the 1st to tolerate, well at least in Salem city limits, the 2nd biggest city, population wise, in the state. Dispensarys might have been popping up here around the same time as PDX-Multnomah County....

The biggest item that seems to stand out, especially on level beyond just cannabis regulation, is the decision for Counties that Voted No, To get a council say,
We are basically acknowledging we shredded the last sliver of what we call democracy......granted it wasn't a Constitutional amendment and could be changed.......and things like the "regulations" we thought we were voting on were or were not to be set in stone....I think it was implied heavily, no doubt, but due to a Fucked justice system, anything not a Constitutional amendment [set in stone- ish] falls directly into the Fucked / Fucked off pile.....so some of the haggling isn't / shouldn't be a surprise, it isn't...

Playing the other side, there were some questioning the original tax scheme of M91 directly benefitting local law enforcement and treatment centers, while at the same time promoting "responsible use" and "No More Arrests"....yet here were voting clearly on increased treatment for people, let's face it, were being deemed as using unresponable choices and needing to go to rehab [religion with different context] [and religion might be responsible for all deaths, whether you are for / against]......for a substance, that is less toxic that Water.

I all honesty I just see both side being disegenuous....Yes, we got LEO off our backs, but what if you were in the group that didn't, what would your cry be?

Those that had the noose, loosened just a bit, also need to pour that energy into loosening it as well for others who feel it tight around their necks....Keep up the fight....

I will fight the good fight for every person interested medicinal cannabis as well as Get Lifted cannabis, and won't for those that don't.....and I urge you to as well, Jah siblings