Anyone on here growing using Eco friendly/renewable resources?

Andrew2112

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Anyone in here using earth friendly growing techniques? I had been planning out how to make my own soil using only eco friendly/renewable ingredients when I came across an article posted on motherearthnews.com that said:

"Until 30 years ago, most gardeners made their own potting soil by combining their best garden soil with rotted manure from the barn or buckets of leaf mold hauled home from damp stream banks, topped off with a dusting of wood ashes. Contrast and compare: North American gardeners now spend more than $500 million each year on potting mixes and specialty soils. How many of those dollars do you want to come from your wallet?"


So from researching this and other websites I found many useful tips on how to get back to the simple and renewable way of growing.


For example: instead of using peat (which is mined from sensitive bogs that take thousands of years to recover) I would use coco coir, screened bark, composted sawdust, or leaf mold. All of these things are renewable and if you are capable they are easy to make. The sawdust and leaf mold can compensate for the absence of vermiculite.

Another substitution I came across was the use of rice hulls instead of perlite. I have seen another user in this site talk about using it with success. Clean river sand is another substitute for fluffing up the soil.


Here is a list of mixes I came across that can be used as loamy soil:


50% compost – 50% Sand 50% coco peat – 50% sand
70% aged fine bark or aged sawdust – 30% sand


I am researching and planning my base soil mix to use with super soil. I'm looking for possible alternatives to mined minerals used in super soil mixes. Anyone with suggestions or information regarding Eco friendly techniques please post them here. Everything from soil, fertilizers, to making your own solar panels or wind turbines is very welcome.
 

Abiqua

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I collect vetch to replace alfalfa meal
and stinging nettle to replace kelp meal.

Also collect my own rock dust and basalt for lava chips.

Trying to head to the coast this spring, for fish guts, crabshells/shells and making my own sea salt.

Just started growing my own aloe too...

Personally, I try and stop using things that have to travel 1000's of miles to reach me. Coconut water being the exception. :) :peace:
 

Andrew2112

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Awesome! This is exactly the type of info I am looking for. It's great that you are finding alternatives to the "exotic" imported ingredients.
 

May11th

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He'll yeah. Good thread. I make my own aloe, use store bought coconuts, in the summer I collect kelp from the lake, I use eggshells and dead leaves , I recycle it all too. I plan on doing more and more. Should have a worm farm here soon and newly built aquarium. Fish poo is the shit in veg. I use rabbit shit too that I get from a friend and hog shit although I prefer other manures over hog I just use that outdoors. I use my own urine and sperm lol jk on that one. My best yields and bud are coming from homeade stuff and it's usually leftovers or local. I'm from Ohio so we don't get the coastal shit but man I'd love me some shrimp and lobster meal. Hers some of my girls.

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Andrew2112

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He'll yeah. Good thread. I make my own aloe, use store bought coconuts, in the summer I collect kelp from the lake, I use eggshells and dead leaves , I recycle it all too. I plan on doing more and more. Should have a worm farm here soon and newly built aquarium. Fish poo is the shit in veg. I use rabbit shit too that I get from a friend and hog shit although I prefer other manures over hog I just use that outdoors. I use my own urine and sperm lol jk on that one. My best yields and bud are coming from homeade stuff and it's usually leftovers or local. I'm from Ohio so we don't get the coastal shit but man I'd love me some shrimp and lobster meal. Hers some of my girls.

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Those look fantastic! I'm psyched to see how good grows turn out when using simple ingredients, keep it coming! Do you use the coconuts for cloning? What are all the uses for coconuts?
 

st0wandgrow

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Some ideas ....

- Start a worm bin. You can cycle almost anything through it.
- Plant some comfrey, and other dynamic accumulators. The tap roots of thes plants go deep in to the soil and mine all sorts of beneficial minerals that accumulate in their leaves. Dry those leaves and mix in to your soil.
- Check with local rock quarys for rock dusts. I have a place by me that lets me bring a 5 gallon bucket up and collect a variety of rock dusts
- Plant a cover crop such as red clover in your containers. It will fix atmospheric nitrogen, and makes for a good chop-n-drop mulch
- Adopt a bunny. They are cute, cuddly, and shitting machines. Their manure is amongst the best to use for our purposes
- Visit a feed store, and pick up some grass seeds like barley and rye. It's very cheap, and these make great teas for your plants, and the spent seeds can be fed to the worms
 

May11th

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The coconut are uses mainly for enzymes for healthy roots and to help break down old or rotting roots. Thank you I like to spread love into my garden, I'm a newer grower and still in the learning curve but starting to figure things out and settle down and get confidence in my techniques. I use to question myself now I just have a way of fixing all the issues I use to stress over. Stay green my man. Later
 

Andrew2112

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The coconut are uses mainly for enzymes for healthy roots and to help break down old or rotting roots. Thank you I like to spread love into my garden, I'm a newer grower and still in the learning curve but starting to figure things out and settle down and get confidence in my techniques. I use to question myself now I just have a way of fixing all the issues I use to stress over. Stay green my man. Later
Looks like you are starting out right, green and efficient :-) keep spreading the love brother. Doesnt the coconut water contain sodium? Has it ever posed a problem for you? Also, have you tried any peat free soil recipes?
 

Jack Harer

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I'm still shaking my head and chuckling....REALLY ? In the Organics forum?
LOL. Yes, for the most part we make our own soils, use guano/manures and naturally occurring nutrients, some even incorporate Bio-Char. We strive for true organic growing here. I do lots of small plants in small pots, or I'd be doing a "no till". My soil is almost self sustaining, I need to amend very little at this point, thanx in no small part to the addition of biochar.
I love the spirit in which this was asked tho.....
 

st0wandgrow

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How do I go about collecting rock dust? Do they have it in piles?
Well the rock quarry by me has huge piles of different rocks, and as the rocks are loaded and unloaded they smash together and fragments/dust fall off and accumulate at the base of each pile. They really have no use for the dusts, so they let me come scoop up whatever I want.
 

Andrew2112

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Sweet, thanks for the info, I'm going to look at the quarries around here. Who do you talk to at the quarry? Or do you just go and collect without asking?
 

May11th

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Yessir I been toying with coco and a organic deep water culture, no chem nutes in my artillery even outdoors. I feel bad enough using Olivias cloning gel .I owe alot of respect to the organic community on this website. I use a little bit of everyone's stuff, a year ago i was into general organics and fox farm soil, now im into anything organic and want to try it all. Great site and great reads everywhere, just need to know who isn't a bullshitter.
 

Andrew2112

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Right on, the organic community on here is so knowledgable. I am hoping to make a peat free soil soon, I dislike how acidic it is especially as it decomposes, and the fact it attracts mealy bugs. Planning on going with coco, rice hulls, sand, compost, and worm castings. Maybe incorporate some composted wood, or shredded bark. I need to do more research about it.
 

st0wandgrow

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Right on, the organic community on here is so knowledgable. I am hoping to make a peat free soil soon, I dislike how acidic it is especially as it decomposes, and the fact it attracts mealy bugs. Planning on going with coco, rice hulls, sand, compost, and worm castings. Maybe incorporate some composted wood, or shredded bark. I need to do more research about it.
There is a product called "RePeet" that is supposed to be able to replace peat moss. In laymans terms it is anaerobically composted dairy cow manure. Not much info available on it yet, but I found a pretty good article on potting soil that discusses it a bit.....

http://www.organicmechanicsoil.com/pdf/Green_Garage.pdf

Product page: http://www.organix.us/product/repeat/
 

Andrew2112

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There is a product called "RePeet" that is supposed to be able to replace peat moss. In laymans terms it is anaerobically composted dairy cow manure. Not much info available on it yet, but I found a pretty good article on potting soil that discusses it a bit.....

http://www.organicmechanicsoil.com/pdf/Green_Garage.pdf

Product page: http://www.organix.us/product/repeat/
I was reading about tht product and it looks awesome, I just couldn't fund where you buy it. Plus, I don't know how much it will cost compared toothed ingredients, also, do you know if the cows are fed organic feed? I couldn't find info in that, I know they feed dairy cows strange things these days.
 
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