Anyone using Co2? Need IDEAS

Mateuszpl

Mateuszpl

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Anyone using Co2 in their rooms? I want some more efficient and effective ways to enrich my nearly 800cf room. right now i have 2 1000 HPS running. instead of my inline 8 inch filter sucking out all my co2 i purchased a booster fan to just move the warm air in the hoods, its been doing fine. I upgraded a air condition for the summer months. It turns out the booster is doing fine and the room is pretty steady.. i pump my room up to about 1800 ppms on each hour for 5 minutes. Using my atlas Co2 meter, it slowly drops to 1000 after about 25 minutes or so. so about half an hour enriched and half at about 700-800 ppms. What do you guys think? I have the co2 hose leaking from the right side of the room and 2 oscillating fans pushing towards the plants and i have the carbon filter there up top in the left. Which is off but there is a booster. I am also running a dehumidifier keeping my humidity around 30-40 %
 
GrumpyToker

GrumpyToker

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I would instead of doing 5 minutes on and 55 minutes off. Get a 15 minute tab timer and set it to go on for 15 and then off for 15. Dial it in to where your PPM's stay between 1200-1500

I'd get your humidity up a little higher if you can.

What are your temps? With co2 you can/should run higher temps.
 
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LordRalh3

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I "think" the cost of adding co2 is even more rediculous then the price of designer nutes.. Not what your goin for I know but dollar for dollar there is NOTHING that adds less value to your grow than co2 unless you are struggling with super high temps in which case its still not one of the better options.

You get all the co2 you could ever need from a half decent amount of inlet air all your doing is wasting your money. If you really want 2 more grams water just a tiny bit more often
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Mateuszpl said:
Anyone using Co2 in their rooms? I want some more efficient and effective ways to enrich my nearly 800cf room. right now i have 2 1000 HPS running. instead of my inline 8 inch filter sucking out all my co2 i purchased a booster fan to just move the warm air in the hoods, its been doing fine. I upgraded a air condition for the summer months. It turns out the booster is doing fine and the room is pretty steady.. i pump my room up to about 1800 ppms on each hour for 5 minutes. Using my atlas Co2 meter, it slowly drops to 1000 after about 25 minutes or so. so about half an hour enriched and half at about 700-800 ppms. What do you guys think? I have the co2 hose leaking from the right side of the room and 2 oscillating fans pushing towards the plants and i have the carbon filter there up top in the left. Which is off but there is a booster. I am also running a dehumidifier keeping my humidity around 30-40 %
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I disagree with LordRah3! When properly used, Co2 works nicely!

Shit dude, your shooting yourself in the foot with those RH levels! The ppm's are to high at 1800 too.
For 1500ppm you need to run temps at 86F to 90F and the RH at 70-75% for the gas to even BE effective!!!!

1: You need an environmental controller to start!
This one is manual and works well ~ https://4hydroponics.com/autopilot-digital-environmental-controller

2: Set it and forget it......The lighting will supply the heat. The RH will be by the plant. YOU supply the gas.

This brings me to your gas source. What are you using on an (estimated) 10x10x8 area? Bottled would give LordRah the correct answer! COST IN-EFFECTIVE ! MAYBE not with 75lb tanks! I mean how fast do you go through your bottles? I hope you have a gas generator!

Gassing in a home can be dangerous !!! Co2 is heavier then air and sinks quickly, yet a leak or a failed valve can make 2 average rooms deadly with a 40lb tank! Never use gas on a level above where you live of sleep!

Go to your local gas supplier and order a 75lb tank and save serious $ over 40's from a grow shop!!!!
Don't worry about him asking "what for"......Your a sculpture artist and weld a lot of nonferrous metals and weld strength is not an issue with your tig welds......for your art.....
 
Mateuszpl

Mateuszpl

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LordRalh3 said:
I "think" the cost of adding co2 is even more rediculous then the price of designer nutes.. Not what your goin for I know but dollar for dollar there is NOTHING that adds less value to your grow than co2 unless you are struggling with super high temps in which case its still not one of the better options.

You get all the co2 you could ever need from a half decent amount of inlet air all your doing is wasting your money. If you really want 2 more grams water just a tiny bit more often
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For starters im not running cheap now. I have Canna Nutes, i paid well over a thousand now. I have done research and Co2 does indeed work. I am trying to figure it out. to me 20 bucks a week to refill a tank is nothing. Lol thats less then we pay for cigs. I dont get why everyone says its expensive. Its just over a 100 for a tank and 20 a week. like wtf?
 
Mateuszpl

Mateuszpl

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My goal is to find out an effective way of using it. Not debating if co2 is worth it. Im not worried about the small amounts of money if its going to give me good quality bud that took months to make. I am willing to invest thousands to make good bud. Because although you are counting money, im counting my time.
 
Mateuszpl

Mateuszpl

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Dr. Who said:
I disagree with LordRah3! When properly used, Co2 works nicely!

Shit dude, your shooting yourself in the foot with those RH levels! The ppm's are to high at 1800 too.
For 1500ppm you need to run temps at 86F to 90F and the RH at 70-75% for the gas to even BE effective!!!!

1: You need an environmental controller to start!
This one is manual and works well ~ https://4hydroponics.com/autopilot-digital-environmental-controller

2: Set it and forget it......The lighting will supply the heat. The RH will be by the plant. YOU supply the gas.

This brings me to your gas source. What are you using on an (estimated) 10x10x8 area? Bottled would give LordRah the correct answer! COST IN-EFFECTIVE ! MAYBE not with 75lb tanks! I mean how fast do you go through your bottles? I hope you have a gas generator!

Gassing in a home can be dangerous !!! Co2 is heavier then air and sinks quickly, yet a leak or a failed valve can make 2 average rooms deadly with a 40lb tank! Never use gas on a level above where you live of sleep!

Go to your local gas supplier and order a 75lb tank and save serious $ over 40's from a grow shop!!!!
Don't worry about him asking "what for"......Your a sculpture artist and weld a lot of nonferrous metals and weld strength is not an issue with your tig welds......for your art.....
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Can i use 70 & Humidity at late stage in flowering?
 
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LordRalh3

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I just poured 2500 into cxb3590 cobs and am around 7 grand into growing , I'm counting ounces not money, co2 isn't worth it, don't give a crap about 20 a week either. Add more lights if you need more bud
 
Mateuszpl

Mateuszpl

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but thats not the point. I need to know the most effective way of using my co2. not if i should or not. Is anyone possibly using co2? and could give advice and or tips on how you use it. i have noticed a difference. I dont know if its the Canna line or c02, but i am noticing a great difference. And i am loving it. I just want to know if there is more i can do.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Mateuszpl said:
Can i use 70 & Humidity at late stage in flowering?
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You shut the gas off at 2 weeks left!
Co2 inhibits ethylene gas production by the plant. Ethylene gas makes the buds ripen!
Those last 2 weeks - yeah, 70F and 45% RH....

Like I said. If you don't run 86+F and 70+RH. Your gas ain't doing much.....Imagine what it would be doing at those levels to the plant, if you actually see something now?

I could go into all sorts of the science as to why and how Co2 enrichment works, not to mention that increasing light hits a brick wall in ALL C3 plants.....That's called the "light saturation point"......Gassing does work by "extending" the time to the saturation point (from one point of view) - making it cost effective is what our anti gassing friend has trouble with.....
GET THE CONTROLLER and save money and BE effective with the set points I gave you......Ask more if you like..
 
b00n3r

b00n3r

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Dr. Who said:
You shut the gas off at 2 weeks left!
Co2 inhibits ethylene gas production by the plant. Ethylene gas makes the buds ripen!
Those last 2 weeks - yeah, 70F and 45% RH....

Like I said. If you don't run 86+F and 70+RH. Your gas ain't doing much.....Imagine what it would be doing at those levels to the plant, if you actually see something now?

I could go into all sorts of the science as to why and how Co2 enrichment works, not to mention that increasing light hits a brick wall in ALL C3 plants.....That's called the "light saturation point"......Gassing does work by "extending" the time to the saturation point (from one point of view) - making it cost effective is what our anti gassing friend has trouble with.....
GET THE CONTROLLER and save money and BE effective with the set points I gave you......Ask more if you like..
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Have to agree with Dr. Who. CO2 will allow you to grow healthier plants and get better yields off of them. We lose no quality from CO2. You do have to have your room optimized. Higher temps and humidity will allow the plants to make use of that CO2. If you are not running it right it won't do a dam thing. We use LED and this allows us to run higher temps than with HPS. Feel free to check out our home grow using these methods . Best of luck bud
 
indianajones

indianajones

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if you like to eat mushrooms (whether food or fun), they produce quite a bit of CO2
as they break down their substrate. they are really easy to grow, and a 5 lb block
releases about 10-15 grams of co2 a day.
 
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