Anyone with PTSD or Anxiety?

barbazul

Member
Guys, I see some major health issues down here. All human beings suffer from anxiety at some point of their lives. It's kinda born with us, and then something happens and it wakes up inside you.
I could be talking about anxiety, paranoia, depression, agression for hours. As we say where I live, I "used and abused" cocaine, only to leave it after some months because I couldnt handle the anxiety levels anymore. I started studying marijuana and after years heres my briefed opinion (because as I said, I could be talking for hours about this):

It's not about the Sativa or Indicas. It's mainly about Cannabinoids.
Cannabis produces up to 6 different types of cannabinoids, of which only 3 have been synthetyzed.

THC - Good for: Depression - Bad for: Paranoia
CBN and CBD - good for: agression, anxiety, Insomnia (which often comes from anxiety) pain and aches etc

So, what we want is a strain that produces the right amount of the right cannabinoids. That of course depends on the person itself.

For example, I suffer a lot with Imnsonia, headaches (for not sleeping properly), depression (which unfortunately I never got to a doctor about it). So I usually go for Indica dominant Hybrids, even because sometimes just by feeling relaxed you can overcome depression temporarily.

The real question is, what properties do the other cannabinoids have? those might be the ones with the most medicinal use, you know why?

Well, the main reason they can't be synthetysed is because there are tiny amounts of them on MJ plants, so they are obviously "hard to find", and then hard to separate from other components. As we know CBD content never goes past 2% and CBN never goes above 1%. THC content can grow up to 30% which is a lot. but lets see if I can say what I want. If you would smoke a joint with 30% CBN you might never get on your own feet again, thats because smaller doses of these cannabinoids are needed to feel their effect, in comparison with THC. that means CBD and CBN are way more potent than THC. This makes me think the other cannabinoids yet to be "found" can be there in proportions of, lets say, 0.01% and we dont even know if those are the ones making all the difference! Because they are so small, and following the previous logic, I believe these cannabinoids are the next step in the development of marijuana's medicinal and recreational use.
 

Chrissilva26

Active Member
Got out in 04 on a med board. Smoking helps me a lot with physical pain. A few other buddies suffer PTSD some worse than others and smoking was a trigger for panic attacks, until they built a tolerance. I would blaze around your ace for awhile and ease in. Can't stress enough to my fellow vets getting out of service the importance of talking about things. Counslors work for some friends and or family for other. It just needs to be somebody. Hit me up if want.
 

CaliMackdaddy

Active Member
Yes, I too have anxiety issues that cause me insomnia. I haven't been diagnosed with PTSD, as I have never spoke with any doctor about the violent things I have seen and had to do to survive past situations. Some nights I can't sleep regardless of how much I smoke and Ambien has very little effect on me any more. I was prescribed Lexapro, but I was only able to take it daily for about 2 months. Then it started to make me feel really weird, loopy and completely out of it, almost like my brain was loose in my skull. It also made me have hart burn and always feel like I needed to yawn or "pop my ears". So I also said fuck the daily pills.

When the sun comes up, and I start to get really tired, the feeling of anxiety goes away, and I can function to complete daily tasks, then I fall asleep around 8-10pm. When I wake around 5am or so, I feel normal till something triggers the anxiety. Don't really know what brings it on, but once the anxiety starts, that's when the thoughts start running thru my mind all over again... And then the no sleep cycle starts over. By far anxiety is the biggest issue I have to deal with and it sometimes makes me act like an asshole toward people... In other words, I have a short fuse and tend to over-react if I feel someone is insulting me. Smoking MJ truly takes the edge off, helps me to function and helps prevent me from being a dick to others. I know this sounds stupid, but the anxiety prevents me from wanting to even perform tasks as simple as going to the grocery store. Smoking right before leaving the house really helps motivate me to go and can even make it somewhat enjoyable. Xanax helps more than anything, but long term dependency will make you slow and dopey to the point people will think you're stupid, so I avoid it (like I try to do with all pills) until I feel there is no other option. About once a month I have to take a Xanax because the anxiety is far too much to deal with (usually at this point the anxiety is so bad it feels like something is stuck in my esophagus). My depression is very mild and I only experience it occasionally .

So yes, smoking helps me with anxiety, however some strains can make it worse for me, usually indica dominant strains can bring on a physical feeling of panic with me, so I prefer sativa, a lighter more uplifting feeling that makes me smile. As I'm sure you've heard before, everyone's different, so try a few kinds and don't rule out eatables. Eating it could really help you mellow out. The other thing that I've started to look into for my anxiety is the Midwest Center for Stress and Anxiety . They have a in home program that I'm going to try.

Hope I addressed some of your concerns.
Your post really helped me out, i too go through almost everything you mentioned but ive never seen a doctor about it... its so bad for my i don't even wanna seek help with my problem, i get this from my dad i think.. hes very stub-urn. Indicas for me work a lot better then sativas unless its a really good 50/50 hybrid and grown correctly.. which is sometimes hard to find. Do you grow your sativa strains yourself? When do you harvest (tricones)
 

FatMarty

Well-Known Member
I am soon to be out of the military after 8 years of service. I was a daily smoker prior to joining. I have mild PTSD. Its basically like pretty bad anxiety, slight depression at times, and of course the constant thought of past experiences. I think the anxiety part is the worst of it all by far. Anyone else with this smoke on a regular basis? I am a little worried that it may make my anxiety worse, so thats why I am asking. I plan to be a regular user because god I love this plant, just a little worried since I have not smoked since developing this shit. I used to take Klonopin, zoloft, and trazodone for it but fuck that shit just fucked me up worse. Well the zoloft did, the klonopin was GREAT but my docs said Its highly addictive so It was never a long term plan. The trazodone is a very mild antidepressant that helped me sleep (I have insomnia). Anyways just trying to get some others opinions who are dealing with the same shit. I would love to not take any of these meds and just smoke daily again. Thanks!
I got PTSD and I take anti-depressent still; but also smoke and use medibles.
I got a bunch of stuff wrong with me; but my Dr. gave me a MM rec no problem.
It is supposed to help so much that the VA approved letting guys use it here from what I heard.
I got my PTSD from child abuse, not war; but it's all the same fucking thing man.
 

monkeybones

Well-Known Member
i had anxiety problems for most of my life but they kind of just melted away at around 17 when i started smoking pot
 

Sirfonners

Member
Great thread,
I get out next wednesday, 18th and I have an appointment to get my card on the 19th.
I suffer from PTSD from my tour in Iraq, and after three years I finally went to behavioral health to seek help with my depression, anxiety, anger...etc and all they did was send me to the medications lady to pick up some meds, currently on the Celexa, Lorazepam, and Ambien but they all have just ened up being a drugged up escape. I have recently heard that lots of people are trying marijuana so I thought I would too. Gonna try medicating on natural shit, and go to a real counselor, not the army paid drug prescriber.

King, wondering if you ever got out yet and found something that has worked for you?
 

stickyicky0420

Well-Known Member
hey king of state i have sever anxiety to man and medicateing helps for me but it makes some people more anxious btw thank you for your service im glad ur out of that hell hole. anxiety and depression is a bitch ive struggled with it for years marajuana is much better that takeing xanx witch i was on for years 90 1 mg pills a month and withdraws are horrable possably the worse. i hate trazadone cause it just knocked my ass out but i didnt have ne real sleeping problems if you ever need someone to talk to when ur feeling down let me know it helps me allot just to have support and someone to talk to who wont judge. good luck man
peace and much love
stickey
 

sykk

Member
Im bipolar with an anxiety problem tossed in. Unfortunately according to my doctor I love in a non state. The pills are the worst thing in the world. Thay make me feel like a zombie and I don't care about anything. If I self medicate however, I feel like I can get things done and take care of things here at home. Finding a job is damn near impossible but I have a very supportive wife and kids. as long as you have people in your life that understand you and are willing to be there, you will have it made.
 

ultraviolet pirate

Well-Known Member
There may be a new natural one day cure for PTSD. At [url]http://www.loveexpos.org/lovebursts/cureeffects.htm[/URL] they say that “Individuals who have been subjected to traumatic experiences, like abuse, rape and war, can now be easily cured of their traumatic experiences in one all day emotional healing class using the Energies of Unconditional Love in a unique process known as Evolutional Love Bursts.”
perhaps you mean well...but that is a load of hippy bullshit.
 

HeartlandHank

Well-Known Member
Guys, I see some major health issues down here. All human beings suffer from anxiety at some point of their lives. It's kinda born with us, and then something happens and it wakes up inside you.
I could be talking about anxiety, paranoia, depression, agression for hours. As we say where I live, I "used and abused" cocaine, only to leave it after some months because I couldnt handle the anxiety levels anymore. I started studying marijuana and after years heres my briefed opinion (because as I said, I could be talking for hours about this):

It's not about the Sativa or Indicas. It's mainly about Cannabinoids.
Cannabis produces up to 6 different types of cannabinoids, of which only 3 have been synthetyzed.

THC - Good for: Depression - Bad for: Paranoia
CBN and CBD - good for: agression, anxiety, Insomnia (which often comes from anxiety) pain and aches etc

So, what we want is a strain that produces the right amount of the right cannabinoids. That of course depends on the person itself.

For example, I suffer a lot with Imnsonia, headaches (for not sleeping properly), depression (which unfortunately I never got to a doctor about it). So I usually go for Indica dominant Hybrids, even because sometimes just by feeling relaxed you can overcome depression temporarily.

The real question is, what properties do the other cannabinoids have? those might be the ones with the most medicinal use, you know why?

Well, the main reason they can't be synthetysed is because there are tiny amounts of them on MJ plants, so they are obviously "hard to find", and then hard to separate from other components. As we know CBD content never goes past 2% and CBN never goes above 1%. THC content can grow up to 30% which is a lot. but lets see if I can say what I want. If you would smoke a joint with 30% CBN you might never get on your own feet again, thats because smaller doses of these cannabinoids are needed to feel their effect, in comparison with THC. that means CBD and CBN are way more potent than THC. This makes me think the other cannabinoids yet to be "found" can be there in proportions of, lets say, 0.01% and we dont even know if those are the ones making all the difference! Because they are so small, and following the previous logic, I believe these cannabinoids are the next step in the development of marijuana's medicinal and recreational use.
I am waaay excited about the idea of isolating the cannabinoids.
 

girlfriday

Well-Known Member
I have anxiety, depression & ptsd from childhood abuse/family violence. I find weed does help with my anxiety but sometimes it can make it a lot worse. I find the more THC there is the more I can spin out.. but the right strain can actually help quite a bit. Start in low doses..

Over the years I have tried zoloft (made me homicidal) effexor (made me numb) and lexapro (made me hyper) am currently trying cymbalta and it seems to be doing alright.. took 3 months and some adjustments to get there though. I have real trouble sleeping but benzo's don't work for me because they are either too weak or knock me out too much plus they are only really available for a month for sleep so I am trying melatonin as a sleep aid (hormone not benzo) and if I am not stupidly anxious it helps. I have trouble relaxing enough to get to sleep, I love sleeping but not at the same time due to the constant nightmares.

Also been seeing a psychologist for 4 years - counselling or anxiety management programs are well worth it as you need to learn how to manage it psychologically as well as pharmaceutically.

Good luck on your road to recovery/management.
Take care.
 
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