Aquaponics insanity...

richardhocutt said:

Say I had a large pond.... think I could make that work a little better?

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really..... a pond?

Obviously I would run a pond pump to like a green house to the plants

Watering with pond water would help your plants but you would still need to fertilize. Think about farmers - they exclusively use river/pond water.

Bro, drop this whole fish lake/ pond BS...

like stated before you make a dwc bucket for nxt to nothing and do it right..

That fish tank method you are doing is a HAVOC environment for the roots. It will NEVER work... neither will a 398 ghp pump in a 20,000 liter pond....LOL...


you may be a troll as well.. we will never know...

I don't think he's a troll... He's applying legitimate practices, just to the wrong type of plants. Fish are able to sustain quite the array of plants both under and above the water.

haha ya this wont work....some plants can be grown in just water or pond water or what ever. but MJ isnt a plant that can just be stuck in water and grow. its way too demanding for nutes and without all the nutes it needs exactly it will just die off like you've been experiencing. where this plant and your tank idea clash is in nutes like stated before. your fish dont supply not only enough but not everything needed for proper plant growth for MJ. so if you add the things left out to your tank that the plant needs....your fish will die. the turtle might be able to live but hes not going to like it.

chrishydro said:

Problem is simple, Amonia is killing the plant, my opinion too many fish in that tank. Three would be enough nitrogen to make it work. All those fish and the water may look clear but I would bet the amonia level is very high. Good luck I myself love to try new shit. Cool stuff man.

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Not enough biofiltration to process the ammonia into nitrite and finally nitrate is more accurate. Plants can uptake the ammonia directly but if it climbs to toxic levels you`ll lose the fish. The hydroton in the bed is effectively your biofilter and it takes time for the nutrifying bacteria to colonise it. If you put too much ammonia loading on too fast it`ll crash. I`d recommend the OP do a little research on basic fishkeeping before anything else.

The tank is working fine... fish thrive... just not enough nutrients.... and the tank has cycled several times... without any problems other than not enooigh nutrients... and I've had fishtanks all my life I know how to keep them up...

I would have started out with less fish and no turtle. I water my plants with water and filter sludge from my 1600 gal koi pond, and they like it, but I still add more nutrients. Pot is a nute hog! I don't think that your current setup is going to work, but it's an interesting idea and I know aquaponics will work for MJ, just have to work the bugs out.

I think it might be able to work on a huge scale.... but that's something I have neither the time nor the money for... but I say I think I gave it a good try none the less...

Hey I appreciate the help... btw this is my first grow... ever lol.... I know the science is on my side... just need more money to make it work honestly.... i will pick this back up lager but for now im going to go with a method that's sure to work... Need something to smoke ya know!!!

richardhocutt said:

Hey I appreciate the help... btw this is my first grow... ever lol.... I know the science is on my side... just need more money to make it work honestly.... i will pick this back up lager but for now im going to go with a method that's sure to work... Need something to smoke ya know!!!

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That's for sure! , and I've been where you're at...good luck with your grow!

Thanks!

take the fish and rocks out, put more bubble stones in it, add some nutes and grow lol

I have 3 other fish tanks.... no need to move fish or turtle... I will just start over in a new tank... with a new setup
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this guy calls me a moron but wonders why his plants keep dying. was just trying to help you dude. keep trying while i keep harvesting.

Hey,
Try with an easier plant on the aquaponics. One thing, you need red wiggler worms in the plant substrate, they help brake down the solid fish waste and cycle it faster. Lettuce is a good plant for learning aquaculture.

Cannibis will never work in aquaponics.

Sidd

superstoner1 said:

this guy calls me a moron but wonders why his plants keep dying. was just trying to help you dude. keep trying while i keep harvesting.

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If he only knew the legend you are..

Atomizer said:

Not enough biofiltration to process the ammonia into nitrite and finally nitrate is more accurate. Plants can uptake the ammonia directly but if it climbs to toxic levels you`ll lose the fish. The hydroton in the bed is effectively your biofilter and it takes time for the nutrifying bacteria to colonise it. If you put too much ammonia loading on too fast it`ll crash. I`d recommend the OP do a little research on basic fishkeeping before anything else.

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Atomizer is right. You need to take about a month to build up a good bacteria culture in your bio filter (hydroton/Grow medium.). I grew about 6 letuce plants, but my tank had about 25 goldfish. Its possible to grow MJ in an aquaponics system, but you can't start it with mj. You need to use some other plants you don't mind sacrificing at first until you build up that culture. Then you can transplant a plant into the system. check my vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o2cOrAiZ8Y&feature=g-upl . This is a great system, because you aren't required to balance anything. Its a enclosed nitro system. All you have to do is maintain fish feed, water levels and water temp. Ph is naturally regulated and the fish and plants will adapt. Don't listen to anyone who doesn't have experience in aquaponics, because it sounds impossible until you actually put together a system that works. My ammonia levels were near zero because my system was working so well. My ph levels were stable and my water was crystal clear. The system I put together was under $200, and produced more veggies than we could eat. Plants can't use ammonia. It needs bacteria to change it to Nitrite. Keep trying buddy, and you might just develop one of the most easily maintained, low cost mj producing systems imaginable. I am going to fire my system back up once my outside temps drop back down. Good luck!