Chief Walkin Eagle
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Alright, Ima let the wild goose chasers run around aimlessly thinking that they are accomplishing something. Goodnight peeps!
Are any of you here a Sensitive?
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Canna Sylvan
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Chief,
What I do: Smoke 0.15 g of Blue Dream, turn off my bedroom light, turn on the hall light, lie with my feet pointing towards the door. Stare at ceiling. I then concentrate on my spirit guide, a golden lion tamarin. I imagine floating down a river.
What I do: Smoke 0.15 g of Blue Dream, turn off my bedroom light, turn on the hall light, lie with my feet pointing towards the door. Stare at ceiling. I then concentrate on my spirit guide, a golden lion tamarin. I imagine floating down a river.
ganja man23
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You have to look further than religion. Its more of a guide than a literal interpretation. The reality is that many different religions deal with different levels of spirituality and this god fellow in many religions is described as all knowing therefore can he not contain infinity within him, with us and everything we see being a part of that infinity? I define god as the highest conceivable dimensional vibration if you wish to think of it that way. Some might call something like that intelligent even, not like us though. string theory suggests there is something called the highest dimension (right now they claim the tenth) of all the multiverses, also called the omniverese. Think about this; the number infinity goes on forever therefore we can never really count to the end. All im trying to say is that we must realize that just because our supposed reality is all that we can see does that mean its all that is? To understand infinity we must look at it as a whole, not try and count the way to the top because after a certain point you will find its not possible to reach, you must embrace it as a whole. Don't close any doors for yourself, and sure as fuck don't let science be the only thing to open doors for you.
Padawanbater2
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Cool ideas and opinions, bro. Just dont force others to try and accept your ideas and opinions. Nothing ever comes from it besides people clashing heads never agreeing to disagree.The certainty you have in your ideas and opinions is a delusion, you might even call it dangerous.
What is dangerous about a systematic way of carefully and thoroughly observing nature while using consistent logic to evaluate the results?
Heisenberg
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The irony of religion is that because of its power to divert man to destructive courses, the world actually could come to an end. The plain fact is religion must die for mankind to live. The hour is getting very late to be able to indulge in having key decisions made by religious people, by irrationalists, by those who would steer the ship of state not by a compass, but by the equivalent of reading the entrails of a chicken.
George Bush prayed a lot about Iraq, but he didn’t learn a lot about it. Faith means making a virtue out of not thinking. It’s nothing to brag about. And those who preach faith and enable and elevate it are our intellectual slaveholders, keeping mankind in a bondage to fantasy and nonsense that has spawned and justified so much lunacy and destruction. Religion is dangerous because it allows human beings who don’t have all the answers to think that they do.
Most people would think it’s wonderful when someone says, “I’m willing, Lord. I’ll do whatever You want me to do.” Except that since there are no gods actually talking to us, that void is filled in by people, with their own corruptions and limitations and agendas. And anyone who tells you they know, they just know what happens when you die, I promise you, you don’t. How could I be so sure? Because I don’t know, and you do not possess mental powers that I do not.
The only appropriate attitude for man to have about the big questions is not the arrogant certitude that is the hallmark of religion, but doubt. Doubt is humble, and that’s what man needs to be, considering that human history is a litany of getting shit dead wrong. This is why rational people, anti-religionists, must end their timidity and come out of the closet and assert themselves. And those who consider themselves only moderately religious really need to look in the mirror and realize that the solace and comfort that religion brings you actually comes at a terrible price. If you belonged to a political party or a social club that was tied to as much bigotry, misogyny, homophobia, violence, and sheer ignorance as religion is, you’d resign in protest. To do otherwise is to be an enabler, a mafia wife, with the true devils of extremism that draw their legitimacy from the billions of their follow travelers. If the world does come to an end here, or wherever, or if it limps into the future, decimated by the effects of a religion-inspired nuclear terrorism, let’s remember what the real problem was: That we learned how to precipitate mass death before we got past the neurological disorder of wishing for it. That’s it. Grow up, or die.
-BM
George Bush prayed a lot about Iraq, but he didn’t learn a lot about it. Faith means making a virtue out of not thinking. It’s nothing to brag about. And those who preach faith and enable and elevate it are our intellectual slaveholders, keeping mankind in a bondage to fantasy and nonsense that has spawned and justified so much lunacy and destruction. Religion is dangerous because it allows human beings who don’t have all the answers to think that they do.
Most people would think it’s wonderful when someone says, “I’m willing, Lord. I’ll do whatever You want me to do.” Except that since there are no gods actually talking to us, that void is filled in by people, with their own corruptions and limitations and agendas. And anyone who tells you they know, they just know what happens when you die, I promise you, you don’t. How could I be so sure? Because I don’t know, and you do not possess mental powers that I do not.
The only appropriate attitude for man to have about the big questions is not the arrogant certitude that is the hallmark of religion, but doubt. Doubt is humble, and that’s what man needs to be, considering that human history is a litany of getting shit dead wrong. This is why rational people, anti-religionists, must end their timidity and come out of the closet and assert themselves. And those who consider themselves only moderately religious really need to look in the mirror and realize that the solace and comfort that religion brings you actually comes at a terrible price. If you belonged to a political party or a social club that was tied to as much bigotry, misogyny, homophobia, violence, and sheer ignorance as religion is, you’d resign in protest. To do otherwise is to be an enabler, a mafia wife, with the true devils of extremism that draw their legitimacy from the billions of their follow travelers. If the world does come to an end here, or wherever, or if it limps into the future, decimated by the effects of a religion-inspired nuclear terrorism, let’s remember what the real problem was: That we learned how to precipitate mass death before we got past the neurological disorder of wishing for it. That’s it. Grow up, or die.
-BM
Padawanbater2
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You certainly said a lot without actually saying very much..
Infinity is a concept, not a number.
What does "the highest conceivable dimensional vibration" mean?
"All I'm trying to say is that we must realize that just because our supposed reality is all that we can see does that mean its all that is?"
I don't depend on visual confirmation to determine what is real. There are many things I know are real without ever having seen them at all, oxygen, gravity, pressure, temperature, sound, etc. None of these things are visually identifiable through our own senses alone.
What I've asked both you and CWE specifically is, what value does something have if we can't prove its existence? How can we be sure, even if we can identify any value at all, it isn't simply a trick our mind is playing on us? Finally, how can we expect anyone else to benefit from it if we can't reproduce it?
Canna Sylvan
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Scientists thought finding the god particle COULD in very small probability cause a strage matter hole which wipes out our solar system.It didn't.But what if it had?They didn't know for sure.They thought it was small chance.That makes scientists dangerous
Chief Walkin Eagle
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Thats a pretty dope spirit guide. I wish I knew my spirit guide/animal. One time when I was trying to sleep, the shape of a cool looking spider appeared when my eyes were closed, I dont know if it is my spirit guide though.
Chief Walkin Eagle
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We've had this discussion already, you did not agree with the answers.
Chief Walkin Eagle
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mentally dangerous I guess. Your beliefs make people ignorant, arrogant and bigoted. You always seek conflict and create separation amongst people while doing so, and you agree that being a douchebag is necessary for the purpose of your beliefs because you are so convinced its the best belief.
How are my beliefs dangerous? Because they conflict with yours? They dont even entirely conflict with yours because I like the accomplishments of science. I dont believe in any radical medical procedures like homeopathy. I dont try to recruit people and get a cult following. You cant even say that Im spreading lies around because you have no idea if they are lies or not, because your cherished tool cannot measure what really matters. You call everyone else lazy thinkers yet you are too lazy venture outside of the box you find so comfortable.
Heisenberg
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The 'best belief' mentality is yours, not ours. I've never seen any skeptic here attack a belief because there's is 'better'. A belief either has truth value or it doesn't, to judge one as best is subjective. Pointing out that a belief has no demonstrable truth value is simply reporting observation. Having an open mind means you don’t dismiss claims to truth out of hand. You analyze first. When you analyze a claim, you consider all the relevant evidence and examine all the logic involved, in a fair and unbiased manner, then grant tentative acceptance or rejection. If new arguments or new evidence come up, then you revise your opinion. Being open means that you apply this standard fairly to all claims. Being open-minded does not mean believing every claim, that’s being gullible, not open.
This process of fair analysis, based upon logic and evidence, leading to tentative conclusions, which are open to revision, is part of science. It is also the very soul of true open-mindedness.
“A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence.”
― David Hume
Heisenberg
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I can fly, just like Superman (although not as fast – let’s be realistic). I can take off from a standing start and simply defy gravity by lifting off into the air. I can then soar through the air with perfect control and land gently on the ground at will.
You might ask how I can perform this amazing feat. Well, I don’t know how it works. I just know that I can do it. To those skeptics out there who say that this is impossible, I ask them to have an open mind. After all, science does not know everything. Look at Galileo, or that guy who claimed that ulcers were caused by bacteria. You cannot prove that human flight is impossible. What about quantum mechanics?
The inability to explain how something works does not mean that it does not work. I think personal flying comes from the ability to harmonize the intentionality wave function with the quantum gravity field.
In any case, I suppose you want some actual evidence. Well – here’s the thing. When other people are looking I get nervous and that short-circuits my flying ability. So I can only fly when not being observed, or filmed in any way. But I have the experience of flying, and you can’t argue with that. I think I would know if I were flying through the air or not.
Skeptics who refuse to accept this evidence are just negative people who kill the human spirit. They would have been there with those priests throwing Galileo in prison for looking through a telescope and challenging their dogma. Some of them are clearly on the take, also. That’s the only explanation for their opinions. I think most of them work for “Big Airline” and want to keep the truth of personal flying from the public to protect the profits of the airline industry.
Here’s the best part; anyone can fly. Personal flying is an innate ability we all have, it just needs to be set free. You have to first unburden yourself of any doubt or critical thinking.
Remember – if you keep an open mind, there is no telling what might find its way in there. Happy flying.
-- Steven Novella
You might ask how I can perform this amazing feat. Well, I don’t know how it works. I just know that I can do it. To those skeptics out there who say that this is impossible, I ask them to have an open mind. After all, science does not know everything. Look at Galileo, or that guy who claimed that ulcers were caused by bacteria. You cannot prove that human flight is impossible. What about quantum mechanics?
The inability to explain how something works does not mean that it does not work. I think personal flying comes from the ability to harmonize the intentionality wave function with the quantum gravity field.
In any case, I suppose you want some actual evidence. Well – here’s the thing. When other people are looking I get nervous and that short-circuits my flying ability. So I can only fly when not being observed, or filmed in any way. But I have the experience of flying, and you can’t argue with that. I think I would know if I were flying through the air or not.
Skeptics who refuse to accept this evidence are just negative people who kill the human spirit. They would have been there with those priests throwing Galileo in prison for looking through a telescope and challenging their dogma. Some of them are clearly on the take, also. That’s the only explanation for their opinions. I think most of them work for “Big Airline” and want to keep the truth of personal flying from the public to protect the profits of the airline industry.
Here’s the best part; anyone can fly. Personal flying is an innate ability we all have, it just needs to be set free. You have to first unburden yourself of any doubt or critical thinking.
Remember – if you keep an open mind, there is no telling what might find its way in there. Happy flying.
-- Steven Novella
eye exaggerate
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...as a person, or as a force? Think 2, 3, 4 thousand years ago, how would you attempt to convey abstract ideas to people?
ganja man23
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You certainly said a lot without actually saying very much..
You certainly criticize a lot without actually adding you own ideas, just trying to disprove mine because you claim i'm on some witch hunt along with the majority of other physicists looking for proof of higher dimensions. the only thing you guys have is the fact that you wait around for scientists to publish results for you without realizing how limited you are making your perception.
any real scientist will tell you that creativity and optimism are vital to actually accomplish something in a life time. don't confuse yourself with a real scientist, you are merely a sheep and so is everyone else who doesn't directly contribute to it so stop limiting yourself to science. take what it has taught you so far and why not help contribute to it. you have no idea in which direction science is progressing right now and it's much beyond physicality.
Infinity is a concept, not a number.
So are you saying infinity does not exist than? Why's that, because you gave the word too much meaning? I just told you to look at it more as a concept and again i was just trying to make a point by viewing it with respect to mathematics. that's all you do is just claim everything non scientific is non existent and criticize little things and not the whole idea (Deja vu).
What does "the highest conceivable dimensional vibration" mean?
Based on current string theory it is the tenth dimension of space time which is basically the omniverse, containing all other dimensions of space time within it. We are in the third "density" because of our 3 dimensions of space but we are in the 4th dimension because we occupy one dimension of time. We are working to prove that there are other dimensions unseen to the eye because they vibrate much higher than anything in the universe so how are you ever to see them unless you vibrate proportionally high to do so.
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"All I'm trying to say is that we must realize that just because our supposed reality is all t th hat we can see does that mean its all that is?"
I don't depend on visual confirmation to determine what is real. There are many things I know are real without ever having seen them at all, oxygen, gravity, pressure, temperature, sound, etc. None of these things are visually identifiable through our own senses alone.
Again you have misunderstood me because of your closed minded approach. I was referring to things outside of the physical universe or you can even think of them as phenomenon within the universe we have never be able to explain. Supernatural animal powers, psychic connections between humans,etc. Your approach: i'll wait for science and until then it's not real. it's really irritating because you put yourself in that group without realizing that science should be no more of a resource than something like sociology. you have been worshipping science much like a religion, going by it's literal interpretation which is not even complete yet! Did you ever think that by waiting for the answers you are just as much part of the problem than any religionist. Any scientist will tell you not to criticize ideas unless you have the evidence to actually disprove them rather than criticize them.
What I've asked both you and CWE specifically is, what value does something have if we can't prove its existence? How can we be sure, even if we can identify any value at all, it isn't simply a trick our mind is playing on us? Finally, how can we expect anyone else to benefit from it if we can't reproduce it?
Because we can't prove it's existence it has no value? We are working towards proving higher dimensional space-time which is science far beyond anything your mind has ever perceived. What if scientists used your method of approach than we wouldn't have discovered all those things you speak of which you can't see. You're taking for granted the fact that you were born in a period where we know all that. Understand this: there is a lot more you don't know and even more that you can't see. You can't prove something by ignoring it like you all do. If anything we will ultimately disprove it so why ignore it?
The good that will come from this is a step forward for our civilization. after this most religions will fall and science will take on the role of religion in that sense. it's not going to be any type of worship of a god, i can promise you god doesn't give two shits about being worshipped. i've told you we are striving for unity are we not? oh are you scared of that word because the new age people said it? don't limit yourself to sitting around for science to give you what you want, the theory of everything is not complete yet and won't be for another few decades. so until then you're going to sit around and masterbate to science magazine instead of writing articles for it? i don't think scientists like that very much themselves.
You certainly criticize a lot without actually adding you own ideas, just trying to disprove mine because you claim i'm on some witch hunt along with the majority of other physicists looking for proof of higher dimensions. the only thing you guys have is the fact that you wait around for scientists to publish results for you without realizing how limited you are making your perception.
any real scientist will tell you that creativity and optimism are vital to actually accomplish something in a life time. don't confuse yourself with a real scientist, you are merely a sheep and so is everyone else who doesn't directly contribute to it so stop limiting yourself to science. take what it has taught you so far and why not help contribute to it. you have no idea in which direction science is progressing right now and it's much beyond physicality.
Infinity is a concept, not a number.
So are you saying infinity does not exist than? Why's that, because you gave the word too much meaning? I just told you to look at it more as a concept and again i was just trying to make a point by viewing it with respect to mathematics. that's all you do is just claim everything non scientific is non existent and criticize little things and not the whole idea (Deja vu).
What does "the highest conceivable dimensional vibration" mean?
Based on current string theory it is the tenth dimension of space time which is basically the omniverse, containing all other dimensions of space time within it. We are in the third "density" because of our 3 dimensions of space but we are in the 4th dimension because we occupy one dimension of time. We are working to prove that there are other dimensions unseen to the eye because they vibrate much higher than anything in the universe so how are you ever to see them unless you vibrate proportionally high to do so.
<font color="#006400">[video=youtube;JkxieS-6WuA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA[/video]
"All I'm trying to say is that we must realize that just because our supposed reality is all t th hat we can see does that mean its all that is?"
I don't depend on visual confirmation to determine what is real. There are many things I know are real without ever having seen them at all, oxygen, gravity, pressure, temperature, sound, etc. None of these things are visually identifiable through our own senses alone.
Again you have misunderstood me because of your closed minded approach. I was referring to things outside of the physical universe or you can even think of them as phenomenon within the universe we have never be able to explain. Supernatural animal powers, psychic connections between humans,etc. Your approach: i'll wait for science and until then it's not real. it's really irritating because you put yourself in that group without realizing that science should be no more of a resource than something like sociology. you have been worshipping science much like a religion, going by it's literal interpretation which is not even complete yet! Did you ever think that by waiting for the answers you are just as much part of the problem than any religionist. Any scientist will tell you not to criticize ideas unless you have the evidence to actually disprove them rather than criticize them.
What I've asked both you and CWE specifically is, what value does something have if we can't prove its existence? How can we be sure, even if we can identify any value at all, it isn't simply a trick our mind is playing on us? Finally, how can we expect anyone else to benefit from it if we can't reproduce it?
Because we can't prove it's existence it has no value? We are working towards proving higher dimensional space-time which is science far beyond anything your mind has ever perceived. What if scientists used your method of approach than we wouldn't have discovered all those things you speak of which you can't see. You're taking for granted the fact that you were born in a period where we know all that. Understand this: there is a lot more you don't know and even more that you can't see. You can't prove something by ignoring it like you all do. If anything we will ultimately disprove it so why ignore it?
The good that will come from this is a step forward for our civilization. after this most religions will fall and science will take on the role of religion in that sense. it's not going to be any type of worship of a god, i can promise you god doesn't give two shits about being worshipped. i've told you we are striving for unity are we not? oh are you scared of that word because the new age people said it? don't limit yourself to sitting around for science to give you what you want, the theory of everything is not complete yet and won't be for another few decades. so until then you're going to sit around and masterbate to science magazine instead of writing articles for it? i don't think scientists like that very much themselves.
Doer
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What about, it's just bunk? Something you heard and they want you to believe?
Doer
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I told the guys in jail, I was going to meditate my way out of here. That was so they would leave me along and let me practice. Then they could say, "You are still here!!!" And I would say, "Damn, it didn't work yet, did it?" "Oh well, need more practice." It sort of morphed to, "Leave him be. He's trying to get out, yuck, yuck!!""
The last morning, release day, I say, "See dudes, it finally worked. I'm outta here!"
Not many caught on, even with that. It was, "Sure you did." And "You'll be back!"
I actually can fly as well. What? Didn't see it? I guess I'm just too fast.
ganja man23
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I ignored it because you show no more evidence than I do therefore it's a mutual debate therefore not worth my time. What's even more astounding is that you claim to be an educator and are telling me I would have a hard time passing your class without giving me any test materials relative to the course? You're a joke as an educator if you are one. You fail my test of thickness and you can take my 78.6 Average and shove it! You fail to realize that i well establish evolution as a whole thoery but it still has not shown evidence for the outcome of development of many complex genes exclusive to humans. It fails to explain why we evolved to what we are today, it merely suggests its possible to happen naturally. Only at the point that we can read our entire genome like a book along with the junk DNA can we truly come upon the conclusion that we have evolved 100% naturally.
Not evidence for what I've said but you'll find this interesting.
http://paranormalutopia.com/2012/03/starchild-skull-foxp2-genome-evidence-that-its-not-human312/
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