Are cobs really worth it?

Yodaweed

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Fuck you numpty! Who gives who the right to judge anyone? No one judges how many tomatoes or chillis people grow! Your brand of schadenfraud at fellow growers is disgusting.
Take back those comments or be condemned by the legal and oppressed growers on this site.
You think i care if some closet growers get their panties up their ass cause i say the truth? Get over it, if you break the law there are consequences. The law here gave that guy 12 plants he could grow legally, if he broke that cause he couldn't control himself then that's his fault and he will have to face the punishment. I have no sympathy for idiots that cannot control themselves and are willing to ruin it for others just to get more (that they don't even need).
 

DonnyDee

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Well I dont draw it, I fit it. And as an architect I would like to think you know that at the rate we need to exchange air in a grow room the insulation is pretty much obsolete once you get a little larger than a tent. And even more so when you start getting high level lighting involved because the desire for CO2 will rise.

As an architect I am sure will be able to accept that if two rooms equally insulated with an equal rate of extraction with two different levels of heating will not be the same ambient temps. If room "A" has a heating element set at 500w and room "B" is set to 1000w, are you saying the insulation will level them out and they will be the same temp inside?
Insulate the room where the intake is, recirculate the exhaust, if supplementing with CO2, this will be of benefit as well, reducing the amount of CO2 needed. Of course a sealed room would probably better, then insulation becomes even more important because there are no heat losses due to ventilation. You're being pedantic man. It's really easy and you're arguing over semantics. 1k of power into an HPS and LED, one will convert more energy into heat the other will convert more energy into light. There's no need to get so worked up about it and arguing about cans, ifs, buts or maybes. It's fact. The point you made about CMH was great, different setups are suited to different contexts, there's no one answer. But to say that leds are inferior to another type of lighting, as Dick Rivia was suggesting, is also just simply wrong.
 

johnny lee

Active Member
you know who make these claims???

Highly invested led users who never grew good to begin with
Doc that shit rubs me the wrong way.Look at these pictures052.jpg 053.jpg 054.jpg 056.jpg 057.jpg .That is a 2x2x48 cab.I promise there's 6 zips in it.
All grown under a $175 china light.It is not "highly invested".Your uniformed opinions steer new growers wrong.Top shelf medicine can easily be grown with LED.
 

MMJ Dreaming 99

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You're a stupid twat (: now run along - back to your room full of HPS and shut the fuck up until you know what you're talking about x
+1 I have run into guys who swaer that the only way is DE HPS or Gavitas, etc. They sound like guys who say "I have been groiwing weed for 20 years and I am a master grower"...with the attitude that you cannot learn anything new.

There are always new things and this is what makes things exciting. Note I am also not dissing old timers who make their own soil and tea. Some of those guys are gurus but things change. The bug stuff seems tochange every few months with newer fungis, enzymes and other stuff.

One reason I like GrowMau5, the guy with the creepy golden death mask and other always tweaking and experimenting. Or the older guy in Canada who raid junk yards for lights or guys or gals experimenting with water cooled LEDs. I just hate the heat from HPS and the power usage but it works.
 

Madmungo

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You think i care if some closet growers get their panties up their ass cause i say the truth? Get over it, if you break the law there are consequences. The law here gave that guy 12 plants he could grow legally, if he broke that cause he couldn't control himself then that's his fault and he will have to face the punishment. I have no sympathy for idiots that cannot control themselves and are willing to ruin it for others just to get more (that they don't even need).
I'll leave others to judge the contempt that your comments should be taken with. Me, personally I'm gonna call you a hypocrite unless,that is you've never done ANYTHING illegal in your life?
 

Chunky Stool

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You think i care if some closet growers get their panties up their ass cause i say the truth? Get over it, if you break the law there are consequences. The law here gave that guy 12 plants he could grow legally, if he broke that cause he couldn't control himself then that's his fault and he will have to face the punishment. I have no sympathy for idiots that cannot control themselves and are willing to ruin it for others just to get more (that they don't even need).
I'm actually 3 under the legal plant count limit. Not sure why people exceed it. I'm going to be pretty close to the possession limit when I harvest in the fall.
 

ttystikk

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Viable, sure, I agree. I haven't made the switch because I need to do more research on QBs, COBs, etc. I want to know the pros and cons of each, from growers, especially those that have grow journals. I want to SEE what they see. I hope that makes sense lol.
Absolutely! Plenty to see, in the LED and other lighting subforum.
 

PilouPilou

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Doc that shit rubs me the wrong way.Look at these picturesView attachment 3976224 View attachment 3976225 View attachment 3976226 View attachment 3976227 View attachment 3976228 .That is a 2x2x48 cab.I promise there's 6 zips in it.
All grown under a $175 china light.It is not "highly invested".Your uniformed opinions steer new growers wrong.Top shelf medicine can easily be grown with LED.
It's poor for 400W of consumption (sold as 4 x 200W!)... epiled "fake" cobs in action.. I used these lights 4 years ago.. I know them perfectly.
 

ttystikk

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Who knows? Mortgage arrears? Ex wives? All I know is they're not hurting anyone?
The citizens of my state enshrined marijuana legalisation in the State Constitution. The legislature has been re-criminalizing it ever since in response to the cannabis lobby's goal to take the market for themselves.

They have no proof of sales and my count is justifiable with my medical cards; it's a jurisdictional issue.

They can't point to an actual victim because there aren't any.

I'm confident I'll be able to walk away relatively unscathed.

But this is the kind of fight that protects the rights of everyone here- those who laugh and point are just showing they're too selfish to see that.
 
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Madmungo

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The citizens of my state enshrined marijuana legalisation in the State Constitution. The legislature has been criminalizing it ever since in response to the cannabis lobby's goal to take the market for themselves.

They have no proof of sales and my count is justifiable with my medical cards; it's a jurisdictional issue.

They can't point to an actual victim because there aren't any.

I'm confident I'll be able to walk away relatively unscathed.

But this is the kind of fight that protects the rights of everyone here- those who laugh and point are just showing they're too selfish to see that.
I'm not judging you mate.
 
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