Are Feminized seeds as bad as they say.

Day to Daze

Day to Daze

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Im about to Start a bigger grow.. with a chain of plants where i can harvest 3 large plants every 3 weeks .. i wont go into it im sure you all know how im going to do it.. problem is ...

i have heard so many bad things about fem seeds... such as .. a lot of them can hermie on you .. or .. they arnt the pure strain ... the overall smoke isnt as good as with normal seeds...

but from what i hear.. with normal seeds you get some with sativa genetics and some turn out slightly more indica but its from the same strain . then you can bread the best plant from the batch of seeds...

I would much rather do this .. but the problem being that ill have to plant all 10 seeds... out of that what 6-10 will grow .. then ill have to take like 4 clones from each which from seed will take about what .. 6 weeks ... then from each of those 4 cutting .. one of each will go into flower to find out the sex of each original plant they came from ... (the reason i do this is because i would like to hand pick the female plant with the bet characteristics for my grow. ie short flower time... shorter node spacing etc..

then ill have to kill all the males and their corisponding clones... leaving me with the best plant from 10 seeds and 3 remaining clones... these clones will then be grown, cuttings taken, and 3 weeks later eventually flowered.. leaving the clones from those to veg for the next set of flowering plants. and so on ..

doing all this will take what 11 weeks just to begin flowering of the first 3... which will take about a total of 5 months from seeds to harvest ... fail ...

where as if i just used fem seeds.. i ony have to grow say 5 seeds .. and take the 3 best from seed to harvest in only 15 weeks or so ...

(i know im talking to much :bigjoint:)

POINT BEING....
is it worth the 2 months and extra 24 more plants in the veg just to determin the sex .... (but mabie a better set of plants)

or just go for the fem and get straight to it with possible hermies and a slightly less potant strain ...


ARGHHHH i think i dwell on it to much ...:wall:
 
speedyseedz

speedyseedz

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Day to Daze said:
Im about to Start a bigger grow.. with a chain of plants where i can harvest 3 large plants every 3 weeks .. i wont go into it im sure you all know how im going to do it.. problem is ...

i have heard so many bad things about fem seeds... such as .. a lot of them can hermie on you .. or .. they arnt the pure strain ... the overall smoke isnt as good as with normal seeds...

but from what i hear.. with normal seeds you get some with sativa genetics and some turn out slightly more indica but its from the same strain . then you can bread the best plant from the batch of seeds...

I would much rather do this .. but the problem being that ill have to plant all 10 seeds... out of that what 6-10 will grow .. then ill have to take like 4 clones from each which from seed will take about what .. 6 weeks ... then from each of those 4 cutting .. one of each will go into flower to find out the sex of each original plant they came from ... (the reason i do this is because i would like to hand pick the female plant with the bet characteristics for my grow. ie short flower time... shorter node spacing etc..

then ill have to kill all the males and their corisponding clones... leaving me with the best plant from 10 seeds and 3 remaining clones... these clones will then be grown, cuttings taken, and 3 weeks later eventually flowered.. leaving the clones from those to veg for the next set of flowering plants. and so on ..

doing all this will take what 11 weeks just to begin flowering of the first 3... which will take about a total of 5 months from seeds to harvest ... fail ...

where as if i just used fem seeds.. i ony have to grow say 5 seeds .. and take the 3 best from seed to harvest in only 15 weeks or so ...

(i know im talking to much :bigjoint:)

POINT BEING....
is it worth the 2 months and extra 24 more plants in the veg just to determin the sex .... (but mabie a better set of plants)

or just go for the fem and get straight to it with possible hermies and a slightly less potant strain ...


ARGHHHH i think i dwell on it to much ...:wall:
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good quality fem seeds are ok, cheaper ones like 10 fem seeds for 15 quid won't have any breeding quality to them.

you can get hermies with any seed if you do a bad job, treat them right and your hermies should be low to non existent.
 
one_hit_wonder

one_hit_wonder

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Feminized seeds will always go screwy down the line: it cannot be avoided. If you've ever seen flowers that start out red, blue, maybe yellow, and eventually turn white, you know what I mean. They aren't naturally that color, just like feminized weed seeds aren't naturally female.

If you germinate normal seeds correctly, and grow them with care, most of them should naturally be female. Only when the plants have to endure stress will they turn out to be male. Makes sense.

Plus, feminized seeds are expensive... personally, I wouldn't buy them. Chemicals + sweet cannabis = very bad. (Chemicals cause the plants to be female, in most cases [that's why it can go horribly wrong])

Just get normal seeds, and buy a lot more with the money you'll save. They're natural, and many will be female.

Fem seeds are a fad for the careless. Grow your plants right, and you'll get females!
 
one_hit_wonder

one_hit_wonder

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Correction: Some flowers are chemically made to be a certain color, but some just run out of the nutrients to produce the pigment(color). Sorry, just getting back into the groove.
 
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Immature587

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one_hit_wonder said:
Feminized seeds will always go screwy down the line: it cannot be avoided. If you've ever seen flowers that start out red, blue, maybe yellow, and eventually turn white, you know what I mean. They aren't naturally that color, just like feminized weed seeds aren't naturally female.

If you germinate normal seeds correctly, and grow them with care, most of them should naturally be female. Only when the plants have to endure stress will they turn out to be male. Makes sense.

Plus, feminized seeds are expensive... personally, I wouldn't buy them. Chemicals + sweet cannabis = very bad. (Chemicals cause the plants to be female, in most cases [that's why it can go horribly wrong])

Just get normal seeds, and buy a lot more with the money you'll save. They're natural, and many will be female.

Fem seeds are a fad for the careless. Grow your plants right, and you'll get females!
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so you've never bought or grew them but you feel comfortable saying they will all fuck up?

from all my research and readings if you get fem seeds from a good seed bank, pay for some good genetics and you don't stress the plants to much you will have a low hermie rate. i'm going the fem route as well for your exact reasons. i got mine from sensi seed bank in amsterdam so we'll see how it goes.
 
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Prot3us1

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I believe the chemical used to get the plants to "prefer" female gender selection is pretty harmless, and is in low PPM at the size of the seed, spread that low ppm over a whole adult female plant and you would have more pollutants in tap water imho. (I think its something to do with silver or something, but ive also heard a banana peel releases a feminizing chemical as it rots)

Plants arent only male if stressed, it doesnt make sense. What makes sense is plants will hermie if stressed.
When a plant is female, almost at the end of its life cycle and HASNT been pollinated, it will be naturally stressed as it isnt going to reproduce. At this point if you shock the plant too much it will "panic" and grow its OWN pollen sacks, then fertilize itself.

I bought good quality seeds, none feminized and i got one male out of 5 plants. It makes sense that MJ will NATURALLY prefer to be female, as it only takes one male for a whole field of females, and males dont actually produce offspring, so one female and 50 males would be shit to reproduce, but one male and 50 females is a LOT of seeds.
Natural selection would have engineered this trait by itself.

prot
 
del66666

del66666

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i use fem seeds and if you are tight for space it saves lots of wasted time, unless you want to breed
 
bengi

bengi

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I have used a few different strains from Paradise seeds (Fem). Havent had any problems. (Touch wood), just started White Berry (Fem) from them.
 
dirtnap411

dirtnap411

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The only fem seed I've had any experience with is Dinafem Roadrunner, and it's a joy to grow, no balls or bananas, I'm about 20 days from harvest.
 
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quietgardener

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Did 3 grows with fem seeds. 1 from Nirvana 2 from DNA. No problems at all, though I did stress the crap out of the DNA plants. End results for all three grows plus clones were good.
 
smppro

smppro

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one_hit_wonder said:
Feminized seeds will always go screwy down the line: it cannot be avoided. If you've ever seen flowers that start out red, blue, maybe yellow, and eventually turn white, you know what I mean. They aren't naturally that color, just like feminized weed seeds aren't naturally female.

If you germinate normal seeds correctly, and grow them with care, most of them should naturally be female. Only when the plants have to endure stress will they turn out to be male. Makes sense.

Plus, feminized seeds are expensive... personally, I wouldn't buy them. Chemicals + sweet cannabis = very bad. (Chemicals cause the plants to be female, in most cases [that's why it can go horribly wrong])

Just get normal seeds, and buy a lot more with the money you'll save. They're natural, and many will be female.

Fem seeds are a fad for the careless. Grow your plants right, and you'll get females!
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Can you back that up? Nope, then its just opinion, i have plenty of fem mother plants with no problem generation after generation. plus some companies sell fem seed cheaper than reg.
 
Day to Daze

Day to Daze

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hmmmm .. so apparently ... they arnt as bad as there made out to be ... so if grown side by side with the same strain from the same company they shouldnt be all that different? i realy dont want to compromise quality because im only growing big bud as it is...

it would be so much easier for me to grow fem though ... anyone grown fem big bud .. or big bud in general .. and could reccomend a good provider? ill be growing 9 in one go or maybe in waves of 3 plants every 3 weeks .. cant decide on that yet either....
 
Hobbes

Hobbes

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I'll read the thread later, here's a thread we had going on feminized seeds, hermies, chance of getting a good pheno, etc. It's still on going, I have 9 new feminized plants (6 strains) from seed in flower now, I'll be posting pics soon, the buds are developing.

Be sure to read towards the end of the thread, my understanding of genetics and characteristics of feminized seeds developed a bit throughout the thread as we posted info we dug up and talked things through. I'm running a plant now that I had given up on in the test, with fair results (Flo). I'm flowering Blueberry and Strawberry Cough again, looking for better phenos.

Dutch Passion found that with fem seeds the grower has a 70% chance of getting a plant with characteristics like the mother, much higher than the figure I don't have for regular seeds.

There are reams layman's science articles and posts throughout the thread, worth breezing through if you're interested in different aspects of feminized seeds.

https://www.rollitup.org/seed-strain-reviews/182247-feminized-seeds-hermie-test-14-a.html

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bongsmilie
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

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i've also grown about three or so different strains from as many different breeders of fem'ed seeds, and have had nothing but females and no hermies thus far.. i don't know why fem'ed beans get so much slack, but so far so good in my eyes.. and maybe some breeders do charge more for fem's, but atleast i'm not tossing out have of my plants cuz they are males and i'm not a breeder and therefore have no use for them..
 
Stoney McFried

Stoney McFried

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I've done 2 grows. My first, which were non fems, hermied and were crap. The second, which was a G bomb fem from Big Buddha, was a great plant that flourished. Since I have limited space, I'd rather know I was growing a girl for sure. Do it right, and you'll be pleased with the results.:mrgreen:
 
ink the world

ink the world

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Im on my 3rd generation of Hashplant x Haze fem and haven't had a single nana. Im also flowering other femmed ladies and have yet to have a problem.
 
blis

blis

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I got seni seeds 5 fem krush and only poped 2 in the paper both got tails and are strong growers gave one to a buddy and now have 6 cutting from her:) In my opp nothing wrong with fem seeds just take care on how you grow her and she make you smile..:)
 
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SSHZ

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It all depends on how the fem's where produced. Good company's like Paradise are great and in 5 years I never had a hermie. At the other end of the spectrum is Dutch Passin where everything I ever grew from them had hermy issues......so, if they are produced properly, you should never have any problems.
 
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The Lone Bonger

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I've always ran fem seeds in all my grows, even some that I breed myself. Never had even one herm, always produced many potent and high yielding plants as well, not all were good pheno's, but at least 80% of every crop always were. The fact that they may be more likely to herm in a stressful environment (like outside) is about the only downfall I see with fem seeds.
 
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