are my plants dying or something ? with PICS! pls help :(

skunkushybrid01

Well-Known Member
So what you are saying is that you dont need an oscilating fan to strengthen your stems but you do need one to keep air moving.

Dude thats why you end up with stronger stems because of it.

You only have to google why it works to find that it does.

Even high times talks about strengthening your stems using an oscilating fan.

Me thinks its you that needs to learn.

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/74198-oscilating-fans.html

Check mate

J

I also didn't say that they didn't strengthen stems... i said that they aren't needed.

who's twistyman? never heard of the fella.
 

jondamon

Well-Known Member
what you need to do is actually start some threads,

Maybe of your own grows.

Instead of just dishing out advice about how you dont need fans when 90% of people who grow and have a vast amount of knowledge even more knowledge than i do, as i dont claim to be a pro by any means, say you need them.

They even say you need them in indoor growing magazines. So i guess everyone except you are wrong.

Make a thread of a whole grow of your own or even start a thread about the use of fans and see how many posts you get of people who actually use them.

Im not going to post any more in this guys thread as i have already given my answer for him and you have given yours.

If you want any more information about this topic start your first ever thread.


J
 

skunkushybrid01

Well-Known Member
As you are obviously mentally challenged I shall take pity on you and once again explain to you that fans are not needed to strengthen plant stems.

Not that fans aren't needed altogether... merely that they aren't needed to strengthen plant stems. In other words you do not need to have fans blowing directly at your plants.

If you're still confused after this simple explanation then i'm at a loss as i really cannot simplify it any further.
 

jondamon

Well-Known Member
As you are obviously retarded I shall take pity on you and once again explain to you that fans are not needed to strengthen plant stems.

Not that fans aren't needed altogether... merely that they aren't needed to strengthen plant stems. In other words you do not need to have fans blowing directly at your plants.

If you're still confused after this simple explanation then i'm at a loss as i really cannot simplify it any further.

Thats it call me names that always helps prove a point.

Conversation over.


J
 

Brick Top

New Member
I did not read all the messages because one certain member in the thread is on my ignore list so their messages do not show up for me so I do not have a clue what they might have said but it was clearly visible in four of the five pictures that your plants have burnt leaf tips on the lower leaves most likely caused by over fertilization. The answer to that is not feeding your plants more as you were advised to do.

In nature wind causes lateral movement in plant stems and bush branches and tree trunks/branches and that stimulates increased stem/branch/trunk growth. Research has also shown that excess wind can cause hermis in at plants. (Research not on cannabis plants but the results were virtually the same on different species tested so the likelihood is wind would at least effect many or most plants, if not all if conditions are right, is good.) When groups of plants were researched it was found that plants in areas of near constant winds will have a much greater percentage of hermis on the side of the group on the predominantly windward side. Basically if you were to say a group of plants were in a perfect circle or perfect square or perfect rectangle roughly the first third of the area on the windward side will be very hermi prone and there will be much less in the middle and and even less on the leeward side.

A small fan on low, either not blowing directly on the plants and only blowing over or around them causing plant movement is all someone needs and that should never cause a problem. Nothing I have found to date breaks down the wind/hermi relation to the point where someone can say wind in excess of some certain mph is when a problem will begin to occur in different types of plants but it can happen and as unstable as some cannabis strains are it is theoretically possible that some are less than in love with much wind and that might possibly be where some hermis come from.
 

bezobezo

Member
dudes, i don't get it.please explain me in basicly, cause i don't understand you, very very sorry about this.

do i need fan and fert or not?

and i wonder, can i keep 24 hr light ?

thank you all.
 

patlpp

New Member
Silicon has been determined to strengthen stems along with other benefits like drought tolerance. Silicone can be used in lieu of the stem-strengthening method with a fan. I use silicon and a small fan for circulation only. The fan is not set to gale force but it is still there to circulate the air. Without the silicon, I experienced the need for a fan to strengthen the plant, not at 20 knots! but at a moderate setting. Without it, they tended to snap too easy during an accident or during LST bending. Just my observation. I am mostly hydro BTW too.

What are your guys reasoning that it is over-watered? I see the perimeter of the soil separating from the pot, looks very dry. The soil composition looks ok and the leaves seem perky. Since there is leaf tip burn throughout I would suspect more light is needed so the plant will demand more nute uptake. WHat's in the soil now may be too much for the current demand of the plant. It seems rather small for it's age but overall healthy don't you think?
 

skunkushybrid01

Well-Known Member
Silicon has been determined to strengthen stems along with other benefits like drought tolerance. Silicone can be used in lieu of the stem-strengthening method with a fan. I use silicon and a small fan for circulation only. The fan is not set to gale force but it is still there to circulate the air. Without the silicon, I experienced the need for a fan to strengthen the plant, not at 20 knots! but at a moderate setting. Without it, they tended to snap too easy during an accident or during LST bending. Just my observation. I am mostly hydro BTW too.

What are your guys reasoning that it is over-watered? I see the perimeter of the soil separating from the pot, looks very dry. The soil composition looks ok and the leaves seem perky. Since there is leaf tip burn throughout I would suspect more light is needed so the plant will demand more nute uptake. WHat's in the soil now may be too much for the current demand of the plant. It seems rather small for it's age but overall healthy don't you think?
the reason i don't think it is nute burn is because he hasn't fed any nutes yet. if the soil was too hot to begin with then we would see signs much earlier.

I think it's overwatering and since then the problem has gone away leaving behind just a few burnt leaf tips.
 

Mike Robes

Member
my soil has nutes by the way.
pls answer that, can i keep 24 hr light on them?
Yes you can keep 24 hour light on them. Your plants will need nutrients on the next feed. The nutrients in most soils last cannabis plants approximately 3 weeks. Your time is up.
 

bezobezo

Member
Yes you can keep 24 hour light on them. Your plants will need nutrients on the next feed. The nutrients in most soils last cannabis plants approximately 3 weeks. Your time is up.
what nutrients i need? in my country, not much type. NPK 5-5-5 is ok ?
 
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