Assume Weed Is Legalized.

dopestats

Active Member
Let's assume marijuana is legalized at the federal level..
You know it's going to be regulated, just like alcohol and tobacco.
So then I ask myself, how will the federal government decide to price their weed? (or the individual states?)

Well then, since it all has to be regulated, should the people not have the final say about the price?
 

Mysticlown150

Well-Known Member
Let's assume marijuana is legalized at the federal level..
You know it's going to be regulated, just like alcohol and tobacco.
So then I ask myself, how will the federal government decide to price their weed? (or the individual states?)

Well then, since it all has to be regulated, should the people not have the final say about the price?
Only companies have the right to determine the price. Just like alcohol, one beer company may price it at x price and another at xx price. Government can't really interfere with that.
 

kaiserAxel

Active Member
For the most part, prices in the US are determined by Supply and Demand, even Government-sold items.

Nevertheless, I'm sorry but a great many decades will pass before Marijuana is 'legalized' to the extent of a tomato plant...though it may soon be widespread 'decriminilized'. In a United States where marijuana IS decriminilized, one must consider the difficulty one will face when trying to grow and/or obtain Marijuana. Personally, even if Marijuana was decriminilized in my state, I would continue to grow and smoke illegaly for the same reason I would not notify my local offices to obtain a permit to build a shed in my backyard; it's not the government's damn business what I do that does not directly affect the lives of others.
 

dopestats

Active Member
Only companies have the right to determine the price.
It will be difficult with marijuana though, since it can be home grown this might affect demand. I believe there is a "natural" pricing if you will, going on today. By this I mean, the prices that marijuana dealers set are not motivated by competition against other dealers/companies. Instead, they are motivated by what kaiserAxel so nicely phrased as supply and demand. And if the supply is always high because weed all of a sudden has become decriminalized and/or legalized, people will be ok with paying more for it since they don't have to go around sneeking..

Government can't really interfere with that.
Maybe, maybe not. The government has been doing so in many things these days. They can regulate amounts, since weed is a substance and many substances have gone under regulation of the Controlled Substances Act or some derivative.
 

Farooq87

Active Member
I rather pay a little extra, than have the risk of my ultimate freedoms being compromised. Honestly, I do not see a debate, the pros of having it legal far out way the pros of having it illegal.
 

dopestats

Active Member
I rather pay a little extra, than have the risk of my ultimate freedoms being compromised.
I'm trying to understand what you meant... You wouldn't mind paying more for bud if it were available widespread (i.e - legalized, de-criminalized)? I don't agree with paying more for something that one can already get for free if you grow it. Especially for a harmless plant like marijuana.
 

Farooq87

Active Member
I'm trying to understand what you meant... You wouldn't mind paying more for bud if it were available widespread (i.e - legalized, de-criminalized)? I don't agree with paying more for something that one can already get for free if you grow it. Especially for a harmless plant like marijuana.
My argument is I would rather pay more and not go to jail, than have it at a lower cost and do go to jail. Not to mention, prohibition inflates the price of marijuana. The cost would be significantly less, almost at same price of other commodities that are traded at same price(prohibition cost of marijuana now) by the tonne. Also, you can grow your own tomatoes, but people still buy them in a grocery store, so I think your last point is kinda moot.
 

dopestats

Active Member
My argument is I would rather pay more and not go to jail, than have it at a lower cost and do go to jail. Not to mention, prohibition inflates the price of marijuana. The cost would be significantly less, almost at same price of other commodities that are traded at same price(prohibition cost of marijuana now) by the tonne. Also, you can grow your own tomatoes, but people still buy them in a grocery store, so I think your last point is kinda moot.
The price may go down, but I think the underground markets will still be around. It's true going in to the store would be much more convenient, but you'd still save more money growing your own. Imagine the weed consumer.. Each time they want to get high = money, versus growing their own, and potentially making money. Plus many people just like the experience.
 

Toss

Active Member
Here is my reasoning with weed being legal. I say the system we have now, should stay the way we have it now. Before you call me a "dealer", I am in no way one. I'm too well off to be one. I take a look at both sides, since I look at things at both sides instead of just inside the box. ( It's the gange talking).
The arguments of it being legal:

Easy Access
Cheap
Be Safe from the Law
Med. Patients.
Cleaning Up the Streets.

The Illegal Side of it:

Being ripped off.
Death drug Sells.
War against Drugs costing tax payers money.

Seriously, Fuck the bullshit. You guys keeping making it easy for these pork barrel fucking politics to make money. Nobody has ever thought that it would hurt our economy in any way if we make it legal. Our government is laughing slowly inside while we make a road for them to make their pockets fatter. I'm glad that we have reached a goal where we can sell "Medical Marijuana" at a safe location to patients that need it medically. For the rest of the people that just smoke it traditionally... FUCK YOU. Dealers use their money to stimulate the economy, regardless if they spend their money lavishly or not. What "dealers" do is spend money. The money is usually spent to fit their life styles and when money is spent it's driving the economy. Please school me on how making it legal would stimulate our economy. In my mind is the average Pot head has an average ass job saves every dime he can spends all his money on pot. Cool spends money on pot and saves the rest. Store owners save money that's what they do. Maximize profits and savings. NM... i'm just being to high and this is going no where. LEGALIZE POT!
 

ddotman

Member
i dont care how much it cost.. if its legal as tobbaco then. well am i not aloud to plant tabbaco in my back yard :confused:



:joint::peace:
 

polar

Well-Known Member
Let's assume marijuana is legalized at the federal level..
You know it's going to be regulated, just like alcohol and tobacco.
So then I ask myself, how will the federal government decide to price their weed? (or the individual states?)

Well then, since it all has to be regulated, should the people not have the final say about the price?
Assuming that it DOES get legalized just like a tomato plant... :roll:

Then the price would be regulated by whoever regulates tomato plant prices...

But in reality, if it does become legal, it would be more like alcohol and tobacco, which the government can tax whatever the fuck they feel like....

Legalization is a tough decision for us (tokers)... Yes, it would be nice to get it legally and pay taxes on it and everything, BUT, it would STILL be unethical for the government to regulate a fucking harmless plant!!!
 

silouan

Well-Known Member
the only criminal aspect of marijuana is that the goverment (a democratic goverment!) keeps the desire of the people out of the hands of the people. we are governed by criminals!
 

doobnVA

Well-Known Member
Here is my reasoning with weed being legal. I say the system we have now, should stay the way we have it now. Before you call me a "dealer", I am in no way one. I'm too well off to be one. I take a look at both sides, since I look at things at both sides instead of just inside the box. ( It's the gange talking).
The arguments of it being legal:

Easy Access
Cheap
Be Safe from the Law
Med. Patients.
Cleaning Up the Streets.

The Illegal Side of it:

Being ripped off.
Death drug Sells.
War against Drugs costing tax payers money.

Seriously, Fuck the bullshit. You guys keeping making it easy for these pork barrel fucking politics to make money. Nobody has ever thought that it would hurt our economy in any way if we make it legal. Our government is laughing slowly inside while we make a road for them to make their pockets fatter. I'm glad that we have reached a goal where we can sell "Medical Marijuana" at a safe location to patients that need it medically. For the rest of the people that just smoke it traditionally... FUCK YOU. Dealers use their money to stimulate the economy, regardless if they spend their money lavishly or not. What "dealers" do is spend money. The money is usually spent to fit their life styles and when money is spent it's driving the economy. Please school me on how making it legal would stimulate our economy. In my mind is the average Pot head has an average ass job saves every dime he can spends all his money on pot. Cool spends money on pot and saves the rest. Store owners save money that's what they do. Maximize profits and savings. NM... i'm just being to high and this is going no where. LEGALIZE POT!
Wait, so you're saying we should KEEP arresting nearly a million people every year for simple possession because drug dealers spend money?

Fuck that.

Let me explain to you how legalizing cannabis would stimulate the economy.

Ever heard of HEMP? Hemp comes from the cannabis plant. Currently, here in the US we can't grow hemp because the gov't tells us it's a drug (even though it's not). Instead, we import hemp from other places like Canada when we could be producing our own. Do you know how many products can be made from hemp? HUNDREDS, literally. Plastic, fuel, food items, textiles, just to name a few. Currently petroleum is our main source of these things (besides food), and we all know that petroleum is NOT sustainable, petroleum products are nonbiodegradable, and the byproducts of petrochemical manufacturing are highly toxic and frequently contaminate our soil and ground water.

The hemp industry alone could be huge in the US.

Now, how to make money from "marijuana". Well, take a look at CA and how they've recently started taxing dispensaries that sell medical cannabis. Imagine if every city in the US had these dispensaries and they were all generating tax revenue for their localities! Now also imagine that those dispensaries employed lots of workers! That's good for the economy. Then think of all the cannabis farms we'd need in order to keep up with the demand! How's about that for injecting some life back into agribusiness in the US!

The way it stands now, most of the profits from cannabis sales aren't doing our economy any good. Not to mention the BILLIONS of dollars the US spends every year trying to "eradicate" cannabis and its users.
 

Iron Lion Zion

Well-Known Member
Here is my reasoning with weed being legal. I say the system we have now, should stay the way we have it now. Before you call me a "dealer", I am in no way one. I'm too well off to be one. I take a look at both sides, since I look at things at both sides instead of just inside the box. ( It's the gange talking).
The arguments of it being legal:

Easy Access
Cheap
Be Safe from the Law
Med. Patients.
Cleaning Up the Streets.

The Illegal Side of it:

Being ripped off.
Death drug Sells.
War against Drugs costing tax payers money.

Seriously, Fuck the bullshit. You guys keeping making it easy for these pork barrel fucking politics to make money. Nobody has ever thought that it would hurt our economy in any way if we make it legal. Our government is laughing slowly inside while we make a road for them to make their pockets fatter. I'm glad that we have reached a goal where we can sell "Medical Marijuana" at a safe location to patients that need it medically. For the rest of the people that just smoke it traditionally... FUCK YOU. Dealers use their money to stimulate the economy, regardless if they spend their money lavishly or not. What "dealers" do is spend money. The money is usually spent to fit their life styles and when money is spent it's driving the economy. Please school me on how making it legal would stimulate our economy. In my mind is the average Pot head has an average ass job saves every dime he can spends all his money on pot. Cool spends money on pot and saves the rest. Store owners save money that's what they do. Maximize profits and savings. NM... i'm just being to high and this is going no where. LEGALIZE POT!
Who has ever seen the Mormon South Park...

Reading this makes me think of the song it in... "Dumb, Dumb, Dumb, Dumb, Dumb."
 

Nomad45

Member
I think that the Gov't would only have say over the tax rate, not the price of the actual product would be up to the supplier, but if it were up to the Gov't it would be ridiculously expensive. Actually the tax rate is probably going to be pretty high at first, but I hope not
 
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