Attitude Stock Sliping

Let me start off by saying that I know That not many people here at rollitup care for Matt roit gear. I personally like his gear and I would like to procure riot gear from Attitude But I Just found out yesterday that The Attitude is not going to restock Matt riot gear Wich sucks for them heres the e-mails

First e-mail I sent to attitude was on may the fifth:

Restocking Riot Seeds Clusterfuck?
To: info@theattitudeseedbank.com
Hello I was wanting to know if and when you are going to restock the Riot Seeds Clusterfuck mix.
Any Info will be well appreciated.

Thank you
C.C.S

So then I sent Matt Riot an e-mail on the same day:

On Wed, May 5, 2011 at 3:12 PM, CoffeeCup Flash Form Builder <formbuilder@riotseeds.nl> wrote:
Name: *********
Email Address:riotseedco@gmail.com
Message: Was wondering if you are going to restock with Attitude?

C.C.S


Matt returned my e-mail the same day:
email from the store
RIOT SEEDS <riotseedco@gmail.com>

Absolutely, however Im not sure when they're gonna order more, if you're interested in my seeds being stocked there write them an email, give them a call and let them know =) I've tried everything I can do, Thanks for the interest my friend!
--
Matthew Riot
RIOT SEEDS
www.riotseeds.nl

The Attitude took one day the return my e-mail and this BS is what I got:

The Attitude SB <info@theattitudeseedbank.com>
To:
Hi there
Sorry I cannot give you a concrete date as to when these will be back in I am afraid. If you put your email in next to the product you will be notified as soon as it is back in the warehouse.

Many Thanks,
Have a great day,
Jodie @ The Attitude

So I then Replied With this e-mail:
That feature hasn't worked for me yet. I have a few different brands that I have done this to and one I know for sure you restocked and I received no e-mail.

To make a long story kinda short after I sent the e-mail riot sent me The Attitude Sent me this e-mail:
sent you this twice with no response
From:
The Attitude SB <info@theattitudeseedbank.com>
Hi
Unfortunately at the present time we are not planning to order any seeds from Riot Seeds.

Regards
Sasha
The Attitude
Hopefuly Herbies or castle will start carrying Riot gear.

huh? ho alright.

peace.

As a business i'm sure they have their reasons for discontinuing a line be it complaints or lack of interest, but they are certainly entitled to pull a line, has little to do with them "slipping"

Never used Riot Seeds, or Attitude. Buy locally or from the breeders themselves.

Wow, was just looking at Riots selection at Attitude last night... there was 1 or 2 instock but the other 12 or so were out of stock.

Heard good things about these genitics, would be interested in any of the clockwork orange strains, OG Kush or White Ryder.

Lil pricey, but good genitics are good genitics

they do have about 10 regular strains aswell I didnt see, and only 1 fem strain.

Slick Rick, Conspiracy Theory and Purple OG Kush look nice too...

This is the thing with that guy. For those in the know his ethics are terrible. He steals pictures from breeders and anyone for that matter and uses them to see his products. He's been caught selling sannies strains and mota strains for outrageous prices. Mota said, he scammed up some testers for med patients and resold them as his own product with the same description and pics of the original strain listing. Dude is considered foul among many. Often times people not familiar with a lot of forums miss these types of scandals within the community. It's some other things I forget as well but, just off the top of my head those are the things that come to mind. There's a ton of threads about him on the net. When buying seeds I found it's best to stay away from shady characters and swindlers selling seeds. More often than not where there's smoke there's fire.

Yeah if Attitude doesn't restock than there must be a reason. Might be customer complaints or just the fact that they stole pics from other breeders or bashed other breeders that they carry as well and has caused them a headache. Maybe other breeders gave them an altimatum but most likely it was customers complaining that it makes Attitude look crappy for selling those overpriced hybrid seeds or tat they simply don't have a good enough profit margin to continue selling them.

Why don't you just orer direct from matt riot if you want his seeds? It'scheaper and you get more selection and freebies? LOL

cp from else where
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Originally Posted by Heath Robinson
I want to warn anyone thinking of buying strains from riot seeds that I have been alerted to the fact that riot seeds are using some of my pictures taken from my threads and renaming them as their own strains.

the strains that I know of are

Riot Seeds Fuckberry it is actually a pic of my Black Rose complete with my watermark!

Riot Seeds Blood Rose again a different pic of my Black Rose complete with my watermark!

Riot Seeds Sid Vicious is a pic of the Cannabiogen Seeds Sandstorm

Double Black Doja is a pic from one of my 2006 threads of a Black Russian!

these were listed on the Attitude seedbank but I have noticed that they have taken a couple of the pictures down now (I wonder why!) it seems highly unlikely that they were posted in error as they were posted on the riot site as well, in fact the Riot Double Black Doja is still showing the 2006 Black russian image.

so just a heads up, research what you are buying before you part with your hard earned cash

Heath
Originally Posted by Heath Robinson
Looks like my pics are listed at most of the seed banks
here is riot seeds Blood Rose listed at spam seeds (link removed)

and here it is from my black rose thread from HG420 2008


Originally Posted by Heath Robinson
Burger Boss,

you seem to be missing the point, You or I have no way of knowing what the plant looks like that riot seeds is using because he hasn't shown us! how do you know the mother plant he used is even purple?.

I gave Matthew some black rose seeds because he told me he was starting up a medical canna collective so naturally I gave him the seeds, if I had known he was going to use them to create crosses to sell then I wouldn't have give them him.

The images were used without my permission and there is no information on any of the seedbanks where his seeds are listed or up for sale that the images are of my plants. Unsuspecting buyers would look at the pictures and presume that they were buying the plant in the image description.

Unfortunately they are buying crosses that may or may not have some Black rose in it.

so I will say it again

Riot Seeds Fuckberry it is actually a pic of my Black Rose complete with my watermark! and Riot seeds were calling it Fuckberry

Riot Seeds Blood Rose again a different pic of my Black Rose complete with my watermark! and Riot seeds were calling it Blood Rose

Riot Seeds Sid Vicious is a pic of the Cannabiogen Seeds Sandstorm and Riot seeds are calling it Sid Vicious

Riot Seeds Double Black Doja is a pic from one of my 2006 threads of a Black Russian! and Riot seeds are calling it Double Black Doja



so if you or Matthew think that showing someone elses strain and renaming it is a good way of creating a good name in the canna community then so be it, but when people who have paid good money grow out these "crosses" and find they are nothing like the description dont say I didnt warn you!

keep it green

Heath
Originally Posted by Heath Robinson
Monkey@Zoo, another nice first post, I can understand you protecting someone you think is a good guy and I applaud you for it but I think your support is misplaced.

I am simply pointing out that riot seeds show pictures of the Black Rose and Black Russian and Cannabiogen Seeds Sandstorm and claim them as their own. As far as I am aware Riot seeds are not selling these strains but are using the images as if they are Riot strains. I would call that is misrepresentation but if you don't that's fine also.

The Double Black Doja that riot seeds sell is actually a picture of a Black Russian bud, so I have a hard time understanding why you think I am slandering anyone as I am stating facts. As for the watermarks they are transparent and not easily seen until the pictures are enlarged so most buyers would not see it even if they knew what my watermark looked like.


as with all these things time will show if Riot seeds is a genuine seed bank, I hope for your sake and others that it is, until that time buyer beware.

Heath


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TLDR

Mathew Riot =scamming scumbag thief, who will possibly turn up shortly

his hawaiian honey purple does look dope though

So yeah, no wonder attitude aren't continuing to stock his seeds, he appears to be a dick

tip top toker said:

As a business i'm sure they have their reasons for discontinuing a line be it complaints or lack of interest, but they are certainly entitled to pull a line, has little to do with them "slipping"

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I don't disagree Its just the title of the post.Seed referred to as stock as in the title stock slipping

I'm just letting the people know everyone has a right to there own opinion

Matt Riot is a shame and his genetics are unproven.... Simple as that

Dub

Ku$hking3883 said:

I don't disagree Its just the title of the post.Seed referred to as stock as in the title stock slipping

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Slip would indicate they are not in control of it, as in something they hadn't planned for. More like good stock management than stock slipping. I'm just awake, maybe i'm confused.

I m testing some riot gear and its stable as hell,All these bad grows of rookies getting hermies it is bullshit.He has had a couple of strains that were not that good but who the fuck dont have.Subcools ace of spaids hermied on a test grow of 5 seeds and he stills puts it out,none of you fuckers were giveing him hell.Guys what breeder has not used pics of some other plants.All you fuckers who have not grown his gear need to stop SPAMING the bull shit like the posts above.All you guys who post that gossip which is reall y what you no growerin fuckers are doing.If all your spreading is BULLSHIT and spam and have never grown his seeds should shut the fuck up with that gossip.If you grow his gear and have problems then yea Id bitch,but these guys are just a bunch of spam spreading none growers ...peace

Mr.Therapy Man 2 said:

I m testing some riot gear and its stable as hell,All these bad grows are rookies getting hermies it is bullshit.He has had a couple of strains that were not that good but who the fuck dont have.Subcools ace of spaids hermied on a test grow of 5 seeds and he stills puts it out,none of you fuckers were giveing him hell.Guys what breeder has not used pics of some other plants.All you fuckers who have not grown his gear need to stop SPAMING the bull shit like the posts above.All you guys who post that gossip which is reall y what you no growerin fuckers are doing.If all your spreading is BULLSHIT and spam and have never grown his seeds should shut the fuck up with that gossip.If you grow his gear and have problems then yea Id bitch,but these guys are just a bunch of spam spreading hear say spreaders...peace

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I do not need to have grown his gear, he has been proven to be a rip off artist, a joke. No, other breeders do not generally steal photo's of other plants to advertise your own, they post their own pictures because they generally have some pride in what they are selling. You have to but wonder on the quality of Riot gear if he's not even willing to put up photo's that match the genetics he is quite simply a fraud.

His shit was untested just like cali connections shit and TGA shit and many more.He had no pics of some of the strains and hazeman who had actually given the pics to matt and was supposed to have permission to use them.But when health pitched his fit that when shit hit the fan..Healths a pussy also(whinner).Subcool is the main one who tried to get riot shit took from the tude.Subbcool and his girly genetyics belong on this shitty KID site..Nothing but 19 years old who cant grow shit.There are a few growers here but most move on from this kid site because of bullshits likes in this thread...

I'm gonna give it shot,, his Cluster Fuck mix is only $20 on his site. I try to look past the politics of breeding. In the end it is the smoke that counts.

tip top toker said:

Slip would indicate they are not in control of it, as in something they hadn't planned for. More like good stock management than stock slipping. I'm just awake, maybe i'm confused.

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slip ,slipped, slip·ping, slips,
1.
a. To move smoothly, easily, and quietly: slipped into bed.
b. To move stealthily; steal.
2. To pass gradually, easily, or imperceptibly: "It is necessary to write, if the days are not to slip emptily by" (Vita Sackville-West).
3.
a. To slide involuntarily and lose one's balance or foothold. See Synonyms at slide.
b. To slide out of place; shift position: The gear slipped.
4. To escape, as from a grasp, fastening, or restraint: slipped away from his pursuers.
5. To decline from a former or standard level; fall off.
6. To fall behind a scheduled production rate.
7. To fall into fault or error. Often used with up.
v.tr.
1. To cause to move in a smooth, easy, or sliding motion: slipped the bolt into place.
2. To place or insert smoothly and quietly.
3. To put on or remove (clothing) easily or quickly: slip on a sweater; slipped off her shoes.
4. To get loose or free from; elude.
5. To give birth to prematurely. Used of animals.
6. To unleash or free (a dog or hawk) to pursue game.
7. To release, loose, or unfasten: slip a knot.
8. To dislocate (a bone).
9. To pass (a knitting stitch) from one needle to another without knitting it.
n.
1. The act or an instance of slipping or sliding.
2. An accident or mishap, especially a falling down.
3.
a. An error in conduct or thinking; a mistake.
b. A slight error or oversight, as in speech or writing: a slip of the tongue.
4. Nautical
a. A docking place for a ship between two piers.
b. A slipway.
5. Nautical The difference between a vessel's actual speed through water and the speed at which the vessel would move if the screw were propelling against a solid.
6.
a. A woman's undergarment of dress length with shoulder straps.
b. A half-slip.
7. A pillowcase.
8. Geology
a. A smooth crack at which rock strata have moved on each other.
b. A small fault.
c. The relative displacement of formerly adjacent points on opposite sides of a fault.
9. The difference between optimal and actual output in a mechanical device.
10. Movement between two parts where none should exist, as between a pulley and a belt.
11. A sideways movement of an airplane when banked too far.

Not only Riot gear But A few others out of stock :Afropips ,Cannaventure ,vulkania