auto vs feminized

and the reflective tape and all that ............that is where u get heat reflections from black aborbs it ..........what is in there water and cooler air getting pumpped in with a strong pump like i said .........this controls it very well ...........as the plant gets bigger and shades it it is less of a factor .................painting it white go for it with a thick enough coating it makes it black inside (as i said the only answer is to make it thicker walls coating thicker counts)....with black paint does not need to be so thickjust a good even coating

and finaly why buy something just to modify it ...get it black in the first place has to buy the basket for it anyways and the rocks ...............my idea with the spray paint was just becuase odds are has some around already and told him to seal it to keep from flaking off)


the kid can order hims a dwc set for 49 bucks 10 inch lid (and everything else needed for first run) ...........i would tell him replace the pump with a stronger one to get a micro pore air stone ( do u know why i said to get a micro pore stone and larger pump) and to get some black air line

micro pore will make smaller bubbles and those will last on the roots longer before they form up a large bubble and head to the top to excape .......this increases the desolved oxygen in the water more along with the heat transferance rate with the air in the bubbles to the waters temp ...........with the larger pump that combattes any heat build up and the desolved oxygen rate issuse in the water with the water temp being higher along with uses more of the stone for a wider area of coverage with the bubbles and a lower need to clean the stone off of any feed build up that it gets on it....this one just hit me since it a larger area an more movement less settling for the feed on the bottom plants can get more in that feed u used

...black, silver; whatever....
radiation absorption (heat transfer from electromagnetic sources incl visible light) is a lot more relevant in sunlight ....
...under artificial light sources? proly not so much......

....I'm thinking algae control is a bigger issue

algae needs light to live and grow ...........black stops it all light so algae is not possible...............just need to make sure the lid is on tight and the rock lvls are right

Indoor Sun King said:

i hear you, but there other things about auto's that make them more of a "plug and play" and/or "idiot proof"

* Auto's are best to start in the final pot (no transplanting mishaps)
* Auto's should not be topped or FIM (less effort, no need to research FIM)
* Auto are not to be cloned (no need to learn those cloning skills)
* Hours of light/dark.....pick and choose whatever works for you 24/0, 20/4 18/6, 12/12 or a day of each.....it just doesn't matter much

so that's what i meant by more simplistic

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I agree with the no cloning, but I'm up in the air as far as the starting in final pot, and topping.

MadDog607 said:

I'm def gonna go with feminized. I read that the autos do not have as much of a yield. How long should i keep it in veg?

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Why do you keep comparing Fem to Auto?
Why not try a Fem Auto if you like those two words?
The auto has a lower yield because of the trait that it will flower when IT wants to, NOT when you let it, it has nothing to do with the fem characteristic.

justugh said:

that is everything u have said in this post .................i do not see one peice of advice or help in any of your comments ............infact that first one is little insulting
so u have no value as person here u rather make fun and say what is in your head then pass advice and help off to others

if this does not shut u up then damn parnets taught u wrong

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I've been quiet until now, but your broken English, misspelling, lack of punctuation and capitalization, and misinformation are getting to me.
Before I leave this thread, I just want to ask 3 questions........
Do you weigh your shit wet?
What the fuck are "parnets"
Did you come here from Grass City?

U can top autos and transplant it may take a little longer to finish but totally possable!

justugh said:

the answer
black stops light and removed all possible chances that it would get inside the bucket and cause troubles in lower aborbtion rates to the plant along with keeping the water from developing anything that could cuase troubles to the roots

i am sorry if this is what ppl call common logic the world is doomed ............the simple concept light bad for roots black stops all light ..........there for a black bucket is the best possible choice to get for something likes this

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Still not seeing you explain why it has to be black. You're saying why black would work, but not why it has to be black. You stated it has to be black. It does not have to be black, yet your ego is so large that you are choosing to argue pointlessly, continuing to perpetrate your false I formation, instead of just accepting you madeamkstakein stating the res must be black.

There is zero requirement for the res to be black, get over yourself and grow up.

You're doing an INSANE amount of typing so as not to explain why it is a requirement. Its rathersad to watch.

Bakatare666 said:

I've been quiet until now, but your broken English, misspelling, lack of punctuation and capitalization, and misinformation are getting to me.
Before I leave this thread, I just want to ask 3 questions........
Do you weigh your shit wet?
What the fuck are "parnets"
Did you come here from Grass City?View attachment 2921057

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called dsylexic and not caring what others think..................the words i learned to spell in school half of them have changed in the last 20 years and in anouther 80 years it will looks something completely different then what it is now ............hell now adays it is ok that i axed u something instead of asked so what the hell

so it is not something to stress over .........unless u are a anal uptight person that needs to controll everything so they feel they have power in the life they live ( i am not one of those ppl so i do not care ............aslong as the idea gets tho that is all that matters to me )

tip top toker said:

Still not seeing you explain why it has to be black. You're saying why black would work, but not why it has to be black. You stated it has to be black. It does not have to be black, yet your ego is so large that you are choosing to argue pointlessly, continuing to perpetrate your false I formation, instead of just accepting you madeamkstakein stating the res must be black.

There is zero requirement for the res to be black, get over yourself and grow up.

You're doing an INSANE amount of typing so as not to explain why it is a requirement. Its rathersad to watch.

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then u are a moron and need to kill yourself before u have any childern and pass on those bad gentics ..............by u dying it helps the other ppl in the world u are not there to comsume the food water and other stuff so it lowers the prices for the rest of us ........................the info and idea is correct if u are unable to put the info together and use it then u have some issuses with basic logic

assuming ppl have a iq or any kind of mind is no longer possible after this ..............thank u for finally convincing me that ppl are dumb what i see as basic logic the rest of u it is higher thinking

u can not debate or argue with it so u call names and make fun of ppl ,,,,,,,,,,,,this just proves the point

Yet again ignoring the question.

Please explain why a tote or res has to be black. THose were your words. Has to be black. It has to be light proof, not black. so please, explain why it must be black.

Everyone who has done any research knows the tote must be lightproof, but please explain why it must be balck as well.

It is such an absurdly simple question and request, but you are hell bent on going around in pointless circles instead of simply answering such a simple question.

Why must it be black? Your words, not mine. You stated that the tote being balck was a requirement. Not being lightproof, being black

u need a black bucket................it has to be black

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There are your words again Just incase you don't know what you wrote. It does not have to be black, fact, yet you seem to think otherwise.

Wholly fuck shit! This thread got a little out of hand and off topic. Just wanted to now the difference between the two. I definitely learned some stuff from this thread...about growing weed. Thanks guys

Go for non-autos in feminized form.

I just can't see an advantage to autos. With normal plants, you can go to 12/12 whenever you want.

(edit: your reservoir must be orange)

I'm just having fun seeing just how full of it this guy is Won't even answer one simple question in an attempt not to admit fault. Pathetic

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I'm just having fun seeing just how full of it this guy is Won't even answer one simple question in an attempt not to admit fault. Pathetic

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Fuckin Grass City strikes again.

Does the res have to be black? Lol jk im shure everyone couldn't care less whether it has to be a certain color or not! As far as admitting he's wrong again who cares.

mr sunshine said:

Does the res have to be black? Lol jk im shure everyone couldn't care less whether it has to be a certain color or not! As far as admitting he's wrong again who cares.

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I have the time on my hands, so why not I fancy showing him up for the idiot he is. When someone starts telling someon to kill themselves instead of admitting his mistake, hell, I'll persevere he is essentially telling me that my parents should have killed themselves as well. I'll take the time to troll him and show him up for the imbecile he is

I use grey Lowe's buckets and a GH pH test dropper. I guess I suck at hydro.

churchhaze said:

Go for non-autos in feminized form.

I just can't see an advantage to autos. With normal plants, you can go to 12/12 whenever you want.

(edit: your reservoir must be orange)

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Advantage with Autos, there are plenty.

24/0 Timer - Good for avoiding light leaks that can cause hermie (Sure most don't have light leaks but just one less thing to worry about)
Longer Lights on for Cold places - I live in a seasonal state, I grow autos normally during the very cold winters. Lights on doubles as a heater for me and helps avoid 20-30F temps that can kill plants.
Fast growers - Photos can be started in 12/12 but unless you're doing SCROG it's kind of useless because it'll hurt your yield a lot.
Vary yield - There are some Autos that can yield up to 6-7Ozs, my last one yielded 5Oz almost hitting 6. Put a ton of these in one space and you have quite a nice yield in 60 days.
Easy growers - Some strains are VERY resistant to mold & insects, and require very little human interaction (No need to transplant, top, fim, etc)

I can come up with quite a few more but I'm watching Homeland =D
Photos will always > Autos but some Autos have been showing potential recently and it can only get better.