bk78
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Pretty much all you’ve done actually is quote what the manufacturer states on their website. You going to post pics of your rooms full of autopots with healthy plants or nah?
Autopot users: any salt issues? Benefits vs drip?
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Hippocrit.... we provided plenty of solid arguments.... but your set in your ways. Like I said I've given autopots plenty of chance....you just keep on feeding plain water to your preammended coco mate!
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ComputerSaysNo
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"Hypocrite". OK. Do you even know what the word means?
(Hint: it does not mean "person who disagrees with me".)
Welcome to my ignore list. That button is glowing red hot by now.
Thank fuck for that! hit that button now.
rkymtnman
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i'm guessing i'm on that list too. lol. noob.
rkymtnman
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Ignored! Lol... its like he hasn't even been in the same chat as us!
Here's my dtw in coco... all unfamiliar strains for this run and new nutrient line...
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bk78
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Dude won’t post his single plant on his apartment balcony. I asked him his second day here.
Does he even grow?
pinner420
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I have a tomatoe farm 120 units of the original autopot.com.au and they perform great if you do all steps. Your limitations are what you can run through the lines. You cant get very creative. You either run a clean 2 part or 1 part. The autopots from australia have a far superior valve in the mk2. 98% of my valves are still kicking after 12 years. I also own the uk version from the guy that ripped off his partners international patent and the valve he is making last maybe 2 years at best and plug on the regular or malfunction so there's no peace of mind to be had. Good news is the valves move nicely between brands. Depth of drainage to 1.5 is key to reduce wet feet syndrome. Favorite recipe is pureblend pro 15 mil and cal mag 5mil. Great performance for tomatoes in the sunshine however the perfomance when paying 12cents per kwh just doesnt add up if your doing trees. See of green on the other hand is just a tad over acceptable. I never saw a difference in running the fancy air-dome other than one more part to clean at the end of the run. I'm going to try a living soil run and see how that pans out.
ComputerSaysNo
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ComputerSaysNo
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That's shameful.
ComputerSaysNo
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Have you tried the new UK valve? I think I still have the old ones.
1.5 cm or 1.5 inches?
Ahh right i've seen a few of his videos, haven't seen the one on the autopot.
I've been to the hydro store that is owned and run by the guys that invented the autopot valve quite a few times, they have an amazing display of literally hundred of autopots all set up on pressurized lines. quite the site.
Edit** https://www.autopot.com.au/autopot-copies
ComputerSaysNo
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Yes, that's interesting.
He calls the the UK a "highly respectable country"...
It appears it was not patented, and he trusted somebody. If it was patented, there would be a clear legal case here.
This is all about the valve, if you cannot protect that design and enforce non-infringement, you're screwed. The product lines of the two companies are quite different, the only common thing is the valve.
It's a shame that the Australian make of the valve apparently is a lot better; it will probably be unobtainium in EU. The Australian web site does not give any hints where to actually buy their product.
They offer a 2.5cm thick styrofoam "washer" with a slot for a wick, to put in the bottom of the trays if the plant is not supposed to get wet feet -- instead of the clay/perlite layer in the pot that the UK manufacturer suggests.
That means it becomes a pot on a capillary mat.
I have to try just a capillary mat, it might be just as good as the AutoPot, but even simpler.
They also have only a simple marix sheet in the bottom of the pot to stop roots, not the copper coated one in the tray. I'm wondering if that's actually enough to stop roots from growing into the tray.
pinner420
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Inches but really its mid knuckle on my index finger. For my base layer i use the glass growstones. Perilite deciningrates and some hygroton is questionable on ph stability.
ComputerSaysNo
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I've just measured the water line in the trays, and it's 2.5 cm (UK system, but that's what the Oz manufacturer mentions as well). So that should theoretically be the perfect height for the buffer layer.
Glass growstones sound interesting. Hydroton is so convenient because it's really easy to find; every garden center has it.
I'm guessing it's irrelevant what is used, as long as it doesn't change pH and does not hold a lot of water. Even gravel would probably be just fine.
I was worried about the pH stability of the hydroton layer. I washed it thoroughly and buffered it in low pH water for 24 hours before using. In the beginning it appeared to raise the pH a little in the tray, but that phenomenon stopped after a few days.
I think I will replicate what the Australian (original) developer of the system sells: styrofoam platform 1-inch thick, with a capillary mat threaded through. Then the copper marix sheet on top to prune roots.
I think it may of been an issue of it not being financially viable as they aren't a large enough company to go after the infringement as well. Although I am not entirely certain.
Never used the Australian autopot for canna but I used 2 sets for a few years in my greenhouse for various veggies worked great.
Frogglet Legs
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Hello everyone, I'm having my first run with autopots and have seen no issues whatsoever yet. I have jus flipped my 4 plants to flower a few days ago, no issues with salt buildup and I don't plan on top feeding/flushing watsoever. ( I will giv them plain water in Rez the very last week or days) I had issues very early on but this was due to my Coco brand running hot. I like these that much I hav 5 autopots in a bigger tent about to be started. I leave them for around 3-4 days at a time they can be left longer. I don't pH or ec either. These are healthier than my last 2 soil grows overall and alot faster growth I also have airdomes in them I know some people dismiss them but I noticed increased growth rate when I turned air pum frm half to max. I would recommend jus my 2 cents have a nice day. 