Bag Seed and a Budget - discussion

Cloudz2600

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If at least 2 of your plants make it out of the seedling stage you're going to want more than the 55w. General rule of thumb for CFLs are 100w per plant then 50 additional watts per additional plant. Seedlings only need like 2500-3500 lumens so you're fine right now. Also I can't tell by the pictures, but how far away is the CFL from the plants? Looks pretty awesome though dude, count me in.
 
Thanks for stopping by and you encouragement, of course, is much appreciated, Cloudz.

The CFL is kept about 6 inches above the plants. I really don't intend on supplying anymore light than that due to how I plan on only using this setup to sprout some plants and ready them for the outdoors. I plan on only keeping these seedlings for about 2 weeks or so, from sprout not germ, and LST them a little here and there to keep them from outgrowing each other. I just now took my two eldest, pc1 and pc2, outdoors for a sunlight run but they're still only 13 days from germ, or 6 days from sprout. I'm monitoring them closely for any adverse or positive reaction. If all goes well I may let them spend the night on my porch and see how they react through the night and early morning sunlight.

A lot of this will be trial and error, but the master plan is to plant 20 total plants, transplant them outdoor, and hopefully achieve 5-10 healthy organic fems. My sites are well chosen, spread out a few miles apart, and the soil is amazing. Checked in on the sites the other day after about a week of no rain and about 3-4 inches in I could tell the ground beneath was awesome. Tons of foliage in the area, all thriving, inches and inches of undergrowth looks like nobody/nothing has ever been there, and I'd bet my own property these properties have never seen a plow. One foot down and it's worm city, dark, moist...good ol' Kentucky soil. I live in a great environment lol. Only thing is I didn't do much to disturb the plots I'll be planting in. I want to see how my plants will react to plain old nature and so I didn't even prepare any soil, add any teas, or none of that. Guerrilla farming at it's best, or worst perhaps lol, right here. Only thing I'll do is once I have my seedlings ready I'll head off to my spots 2 hrs before sunset, dig a 1x1x1 foot hole, and nestle them into the earth. I'll use an organic potting soil to fill in the holes, maybe a little lime and something for aeration, but that's it. Good luck plants! After that I only plan to visit MAYBE once a week for the first few weeks to check for pest damage, soil conditions, overall plant health, water IF NEEDED, and to spray some deer repellant to keep the beasts away lol. Deer are terrible around here.

But I checked out your setup, man, looking good! I was contemplating my own C02 rig but wasn't sure how to incorporate it into what I was planning. Good luck and hope you harvest mad grams!
 

Cloudz2600

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Ah ok you're doing this outdoors, that makes more sense then. You may wanna put the CFLs a bit closer like 1-3 inches just so the seedlings don't stretch like crazy. I don't think you'll have to worry about co2 if you're doing this outdoors. The only "advantage" I have with doing the co2 indoors is that I can get a higher than naturally occurring ppm of co2, but that's only because I don't have access to fresh air like you will. Thanks for subbing, before 2 days ago I was worried I was going to do this thing all by myself lol.
 
Yeah I'm just craving some outdoor. Grew inside a few times, couldn't really get it all the way right though and my harvests were hit and miss lol. People keep telling me nature is the best way because I don't have to mimic it, and even something planted outside in the shade would yield an amateur like myself more than what I could grow indoors with my abilities and funds. But look out I found some sunny spots lol.

No prob man I can't wait to see what kind of funk you pull. Plus look you already gave me good advise, so I put the light a little closer to the tray. I'll check to make sure it's not melting the cheap plastic lid here and there, but so far it's looking good thanks! Speaking of my tray when I adjusted the light I noticed 3 more peeking up, ready to pop. So far I'm 9 of 21 :hump:
 

Cloudz2600

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Where's the update man? No idea if you've moved all the plants outside and I'm by no means an outdoors expert, but if you haven't set up any "barricade" to prevent pests I would wait till the plants are vegging before you move them out. Seedlings are pretty weak and vulnerable without worrying about any outside interference. That and transplanting too early could shock the poor girls.
 

psychoticalyez

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Instead of just planting them directly outside you should let them grow a little indoors and then harden them off in a semi outdoor environment for about a week so that they can get used to being outside without dying from the stress the outdoor environment and variable may inflict. Also it would probably be preferable for you to determine the sex and remove the males unless you want a seed filled outdoor garden. Personally i would rather have outdoor chronic than shwag. Additionally if you have to crack the seed open to get it to germinate your helping weak genetics survive if they can not push through their own shell they are not worth growing just a thought. I would determine sex indoor and get rid of the males and weak females and then clone the strong females so that you can have the best genetics and way more plants ultimately when you could take tons of clones off the females if you let them grow for about a month giving you a huge outdoor garden with way more strong female plants then you will get just planting seeds. one seed= one male or female plant. one mother female with good genetics= a possible infinite number of clones. Also when you finally plant them outdoors when they are ready make sure to put a couple gallons at least of good potting soil in each hole. If you do at least some of these things it will improve your outdoor gardens overall success and results. You got a good start with the sprouting seedlings, but do not rush into throwing them outside growing anything is all about patience.
 
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