Balls Out First Grow(Whie Widow Scrog, 430w Son Agro Aircooled, DWC, CO2)

Integra21

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Ok guy, sorry it has been a little since the last update. I've been busy designing and building a grow room for a buddy. On top of that I been working on the setup for my new flower room and basically did the same for my new veg room including finishing the build minus moving my 400w light room up there for my mothers. I will go into details on those in just a sec. The mango is 51 days into flower and doing well minus the spider mite damage thay are enduring. Sadly I didnt get to take very many pics, but here's a teaser of the update that will hopefully be up tomorrow.


So, well start next with my buddys room. He has an unfinished basement in less that ideal condition. We started by building a 1/2" pvc frame that was 12'wx6'dx5.5'h. We wrapped it with panda film and taped all the seams on both sides with white duct tape, going for a sealed room that will be co2 enriched shortly. Total tent cost $120. Then we hung his light, a 600w lumatek with a xtrasun reflector($270). We hung everything using screw in hooks($7). After the light was hung, we ran 6" insulated flex duct($35) from outside to the light, from the light to an 8" duct booster(free) and then out the other side of the tent. Where you see the lines holding up the duct on the left half is where the other 600w light will also go shortly. We attached all ducts with clamps and then wrapped in white duct tape($20). For looks and reflectiveness we also wrapped the duct work with panda film white side out(free). Next we made a 4'x4' scrog screen out of left over pvc and wire fencing I had laying around(free) and hung it below the light. We then built the dwc tub($200), and placed it under the screen. The tub in the pics was actually changed out tonight for a better one after I took the pics because when I got there, saw how much the sides were flexing outword, and said we had to fix that today. the new tub is slightly smaller and much sturdier($10). The tub is set for 6 plants, but I having him run only 4 for his first run. It is a 17gal hevy duty tub with six 5.5" air discs running off of 2 GH dual Diaphram air pumps. After all of this was in place, we ran the electrical, we had an outlet to run an extention cord to power the lights and fans, but had to add a seperate outlet on it's own breaker for the portable a/c. We simply added a box to the side of the breaker box and put it on its own 20a breaker in an empty slot. Once the power was up, pluged in all the fans and light and tested to make sure they were all working properly and wouldnt trip the breaker. Then we setup the portable a/c and ran the ducts so it wouldnt use room air to cool the compressor and the room would remain sealed for the co2. then were filled the tub and mixed 1/4 strenght nutrients(technaflora set) and dropped in 4 blue kush clones I cut 2 weeks ago. They are currently under a 600w plantmax mh conversion bulb to veg for 3 weeks and then we are switching it out for a hornilux eye enhanced spectrum bulb similar to a Son Agro. The roots are starting to get into their growth groove and I hoping to give you guys good updates on this in the near future. If you have any questions or want more details on the build, feel free to ask. I didnt want to ramble too much. With that being said, here's the pics...I also forgot to mention this whole room is hidden by a wall of cardboard boxes, not the best camo, not my idea either, but definetly better than nothing.





When I wasn;t there working, I was up in my closet, building my veg room. I also made a 3/4"pvc frame and wrapped it in panda film. 6'Wx5'Dx8'H. I used pvc and the old shelves out of the back of the closed to make a table. It stands 3' tall. I plan to use the top for my 6 mothers I am regrowing, and set up for triple clone tubs underneath. When I get my new lights for my flower room, I will be moving that 400w light up top for the mothers. The clones have a 100w mh, and 4 43w 6500k cfl's. At the moment, the room is mite free and has my newly grown Piss mom ready to move to the top shelf. Over the next few weeks I will be germinating new Mango, Blue Mystic, and Mazar moms since I lost them all to mites and the clones died in my first ever organic cloning attempt. I will also be moving my Blue Kush clones up there shortly once I have confirmed they are spider mite free. Here are finally some pics that I promised forever ago....




If you have any questions or comments reguarding this build or growing in general, feel free to ask. I try to to every thing I can to help others and spread the joy of growing. Hope you all enjoyed this update, and there will be another tomorrow with an actual flower update.
 

Bob Smith

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Both you and your buddy's rooms are looking very sick, my friend :eyesmoke:

BTW, to fix the "flexing" from water stress, a simple little frame of 2x4s works wonders........
 

Integra21

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Both you and your buddy's rooms are looking very sick, my friend :eyesmoke:

BTW, to fix the "flexing" from water stress, a simple little frame of 2x4s works wonders........
thats exactly what I told him, but he didnt want to do it and opted to get a heavy duty tub. But I was inspired by you bob. had a great sales pitch on how cheap and easy it was to do.
 

Bob Smith

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thats exactly what I told him, but he didnt want to do it and opted to get a heavy duty tub. But I was inspired by you bob. had a great sales pitch on how cheap and easy it was to do.
Lol, it's the one thing that I actually thought of which was useful; hey, one 1 of 100 ain't bad though, right? :wall:

BTW, took some pics for you, posting them now.........
 

Integra21

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Mango Day 54
Ph 5.87
ppm 915
restemp 74F
RmTemp 75F
RH 30%

Ok were 54 days into flower. Almost all of the fan leaves have been lost to spider mites but the buds are still doing very well. I'd guess there's about a week or two left till harvest. Trichomes are going nuts and this stuff is super sticky, Despite this there is almost no smell in the grow room unless I shake the scroon. The old trend has continued where the ppms dont drop at all, but it still seems to like its envorinment. The mites are starting to worry me a bit more than normat since they have started eating on the bud leaves. I may harvest early if the damage increases much more. I dont really plan on giving any of this mite ridden Mango to any friends just cause it dont seem right. I have already cut a couple of samples and dehydrated them so I could see if the little basterds affect the smoke and it was fairly typical for weed cut and dried this way. The only real difference from when I did this with the widow, is even not flushed and dehydrated it had a citris tastes and an even stronger fruity after taste. almost sour. When I flush, I will use molasses water for the first 3 days and ro water for the last 4. and now onto the bud porn...





 

Integra21

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Its just a regular 8mp sony. It more has to do with knowing the tricks of the trade, and taking a whole lot of pics. the last couple of close-ups were through a magnifying glass, which is a major pain to get to focus. I took about 30 pics through it and 3 were in focus.
 

Bob Smith

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Its just a regular 8mp sony. It more has to do with knowing the tricks of the trade, and taking a whole lot of pics. the last couple of close-ups were through a magnifying glass, which is a major pain to get to focus. I took about 30 pics through it and 3 were in focus.
Damn, that's a great fucking idea kiss-ass
Was actually looking at HD cameras online, but getting a magnifying glass will be much, much cheaper :blsmoke:

Also, took your advice (for this harvest, anyways) and setup a net in there - will take and post pics shortly, seems like it'll be a reasonable band-aid for my height issues this go-round.
 

Integra21

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Yeah, it was a good camera when we got it 3 years ago, but by todays standards, not so much.Glad you're doing something to maintain those girls. You never know, you might enjoy training them, but only time will tell. just remember, internal breaks can be beneficial if they happen, but if you can see the inside of the stem, thats no good. will be interesting to see how it goes for you. The initial height shouldnt be a problem since my Mango was almost 4ft tall and I laid it down to be under 18in.
 

Integra21

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Damn them buds are lookin really frosty good job keep it up:)
thanks. I will, cant wait to get the next set going. I have done semi-early harvests so far, about 10%amber, but this one Im gona let it go till 50%. I enjoy the more awake head high, but its been a while since I've felt some killer couchlock.
 

howak47

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thanks. I will, cant wait to get the next set going. I have done semi-early harvests so far, about 10%amber, but this one Im gona let it go till 50%. I enjoy the more awake head high, but its been a while since I've felt some killer couchlock.
yea iam the same i love the awake speedy high but every now and again i like the couchlock as well hahahhaha:weed:
 
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