Balls to the Wall grow, Riddleme Gets Serious

rastadred22

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riddleme is it true that u can force the chlorafilm..cant spell... down to the roots by denying it light? an old rasta teacher of mine taught me that when growing outdoors throwin a trash bag over the tree for 2 or so days be4 u harvest forces the chlorafilm to search for light resulting it to disperse through your medium creating a smoother smoke...smiiliar to this 36hour dark period ppl do on there indoor grows
 

riddleme

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riddleme is it true that u can force the chlorafilm..cant spell... down to the roots by denying it light? an old rasta teacher of mine taught me that when growing outdoors throwin a trash bag over the tree for 2 or so days be4 u harvest forces the chlorafilm to search for light resulting it to disperse through your medium creating a smoother smoke...smiiliar to this 36hour dark period ppl do on there indoor grows
I'm not buying it, nor do I agree with the 36 hour dark thing, that would be like your nose crawls down to your feet if you can't breath, looking for air
 

riddleme

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They have had their first long dark period, light cycle is now under 14 set at 13.5/10.5 and the timer is now set on the IR heater to come on 15 minutes before the light like I talked about.

Up to now I have played with the heater and used it to adjust humidity (which I gotta tell ya is great) done various test to see how the plants reacted to it and as I hve said earlier they grow more when it is on, there is no doubt in my mind that they not only respond to it but like it.

This morning I was lucky enough to be awake as the sun in my garden rose (so to speak) I went down to watch, mostly to make sure that the timers were set properly and what I saw amazed me :hump:

They were sleepin, leaves all droopy and relaxed, the heater came on (set to 78, morning temp in basement has been around 74) The leaves all woke up and began to rise as I watched, they acted like the light was on or had just come on, just as the temp reached 78 and the heater turned off, the light came on (so my set up on the timers was spot on ) and I could see by their response that they loved it.

They were also covered with new lime green growth (prolly more from the rain yesterday) I mean it was everywhere and looked so pretty if you know what I mean?

Now we watch to see what happens next :)
 

Danielsgb

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I'm not buying it, nor do I agree with the 36 hour dark thing, that would be like your nose crawls down to your feet if you can't breath, looking for air
Great analogy. I was trying to think of how the chlorophyll would look in a root for light?
 

LiveHigh

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I checked out your little 97w grow. Definitely badass for the wattage. Hmmm...well, I guess the only way for me to test it is to grow with a 400 CMH next grow and then a 600w after that...of the same plant. I guess I can do that. We shall see!
 

rastadred22

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well they say that chlorophyll needs light to suvive so when u take that light away in need to survive it searches by going to the top of the plant then realising that there is no light there start to work its way down through the roots and out thru the soil...
 

EdGreyfox

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Riddle,

Since I'm just coming back, can you give me a quick synopsis on how many plants your growing this time, and which strains? I'd love to read the whole thread, but it's going to be a few days before i have time.

Just some thoughts about yield. I've come to the conclusion that chasing after ever increasing yields is a waste of time and energy for someone that is only growing for personal use, because sooner or later you're going to be growing a lot more then you can smoke. Sure, hearing someone say they have too much MJ sounds like a joke, but if I weren't splitting my harvest with my sister (who is also a MMJ patient) I would need to throw out between 1.5-2 OZ every week to stay inside the legal possession limits, and I'm really not trying to push my yields very hard. My last plant gave me a bumper crop (6.75 oz after drying and curing), and thanks to a seriously extended veg time I have one coming along that's likely to hit the 9-10 oz mark (the plants an INDICA and it's 6ft 3in tall 3 weeks into flowering), so it's easy to see that you can grow more then you can use without really pushing the yield envelope. Don't get me wrong-I love to see big yields, but I'm coming to the conclusion that trying to get anything more then 3-4 oz per plant isn't necessary for the personal use grower.
 

rastadred22

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hey riddle....i have a seedling that i topped a lil while ago its still only like 2inches tall and i have it in the same cab as my budding ladies...she started to flower...which sux cuz shes sooo small...is there anyway i can get some more growth out of it be4 buds produce without moving it from that cab?
 

riddleme

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hey riddle....i have a seedling that i topped a lil while ago its still only like 2inches tall and i have it in the same cab as my budding ladies...she started to flower...which sux cuz shes sooo small...is there anyway i can get some more growth out of it be4 buds produce without moving it from that cab?
Not without puttin it back in veg
 

riddleme

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Riddle,

Since I'm just coming back, can you give me a quick synopsis on how many plants your growing this time, and which strains? I'd love to read the whole thread, but it's going to be a few days before i have time.

Just some thoughts about yield. I've come to the conclusion that chasing after ever increasing yields is a waste of time and energy for someone that is only growing for personal use, because sooner or later you're going to be growing a lot more then you can smoke. Sure, hearing someone say they have too much MJ sounds like a joke, but if I weren't splitting my harvest with my sister (who is also a MMJ patient) I would need to throw out between 1.5-2 OZ every week to stay inside the legal possession limits, and I'm really not trying to push my yields very hard. My last plant gave me a bumper crop (6.75 oz after drying and curing), and thanks to a seriously extended veg time I have one coming along that's likely to hit the 9-10 oz mark (the plants an INDICA and it's 6ft 3in tall 3 weeks into flowering), so it's easy to see that you can grow more then you can use without really pushing the yield envelope. Don't get me wrong-I love to see big yields, but I'm coming to the conclusion that trying to get anything more then 3-4 oz per plant isn't necessary for the personal use grower.
Hey Ed, there are 5 plants, 1 KC Brains Northern Lights Special (same as Tilders) 3 Sensi NorthernLights #1 (2 girls and 1 boy, I'm breedin) and one BigBud X PurpleErkle (F1 cross) They are 23 inches tall start week 7 of veg last sat, and flipped em last nite, light is a 400 watt CMH and Im feedin em Jacks Professional Peat Lite Special 20-10-20, there are a few test going on to back up some research and one experiment using IR heat, it has been fun so far
 

henery

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I have to disagree about the dark period doing nothing I mean a bag well ya but a dark period could be beneficial!

Not the dark period talked about earlier at the onset of flowering but at the last day of life so to speak!

It has been proven that a plants highest level of thc is in the morning before the light comes on so I think this idea deserves some merit!

It may not be a prolonged dark period or maybe just pick it before the light comes on but you seem very knowledgeable and might know how many hours a plant can use stored energy till you are hindering the idea!
 

riddleme

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I have to disagree about the dark period doing nothing I mean a bag well ya but a dark period could be beneficial!

Not the dark period talked about earlier at the onset of flowering but at the last day of life so to speak!

It has been proven that a plants highest level of thc is in the morning before the light comes on so I think this idea deserves some merit!

It may not be a prolonged dark period or maybe just pick it before the light comes on but you seem very knowledgeable and might know how many hours a plant can use stored energy till you are hindering the idea!
Meant the 36 hours before flippin to 12/12 was useless, agree harvesting before lights on is a good thing and actually takes a long time for the plant (grown right) to die processes continue for weeks if allowed (most don't) and yeah I know a bit about it :)
 

henery

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Thanks for not jumping on me with my noob post count lol this is the only thing I think you can do better than nature I agree with emulating mother nature and just read the whole thread good work and nice reading!
 

riddleme

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Thanks for not jumping on me with my noob post count lol this is the only thing I think you can do better than nature I agree with emulating mother nature and just read the whole thread good work and nice reading!
Glad you enjoyed it, I don't jump on new growers, I teach em :)
 

riddleme

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Well I get to say it again, after only 2 days since I flipped em this is our guest plant (which I'm thinking about naming Holly) that is still just sitting on the floor 5 feet from the light and folks this is a fan leaf and I mean check out the stem!!!!

sorry about the focus, fans were still on but even so you can see em, F***ing trichs everywhere, this is gonna get absolutely crazy :hump:
 

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