Barney's Farm Tangerine Dream Ebb & Flow MicroGarden Grow T5 New Wave Lights

tendran

tendran

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Can't wait to see this grow take off. I'm assembling a diy ebb and flow right now. Are you using that bucket cloner again for rooting? I asked in your other post (though maybe it go overlooked as it was the last post on a page), but is it doing the job rooting? Is that the system you just mentioned that isn't feeding the plants properly?

I was about to recreate that sprinkler head concept in a coleman cooler to put 2 mother plants into, but if it has problems feeding than I'm not sure that'd be ideal! Hopefully the drip stakes I got as a backup plan will work better.
 
Serapis

Serapis

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Sorry, I thought I answered it. The fogger created roots, but I think the pump got here too late to start aero feeding, so they suffered some deficiency. I haven't said anything in this thread to reference the other because I don't want to have cross chat like this, because it will only confuse a reader who has never seen my other journal. If you could ask your question again in the other thread I'd love to answer it in a lot more detail there.
 
Serapis

Serapis

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UPDATE:

53 hours:

No activity since the last report. Feelings range from slight frustration to amusement....
 
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JimBro

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Yeah, I'd like to change my guess from 5 to 0. Can I do that? Just kidding. My TD that did pop is growing, but doing so verrryyy slowly. I just popped her to try and grow a mom under flouros so I'm not concerned with growth rate. Anyway, moral of the story is...well, there ain't no moral, but don't count out the TDs yet.

Do I understand you correctly: do you keep your seeds in water until they crack open? No paper towel? I've only soaked mine a max 24hrs. Maybe that's why some didn't crack. Didn't soak long enough.
 
Serapis

Serapis

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I've read the 24 hour rule, but to be honest, I've done some research outside of RIU forums and have determined that people soak all kind of seeds for however long it takes. After 72 hours though, I just may have to do something else. This is one of the things about this batch of seeds.... Those of us that rushed to buy the cup winner are all having some issues with the seeds. I know they eventually do open up, but wow, this wait is something else...

JimBro said:
Yeah, I'd like to change my guess from 5 to 0. Can I do that? Just kidding. My TD that did pop is growing, but doing so verrryyy slowly. I just popped her to try and grow a mom under flouros so I'm not concerned with growth rate. Anyway, moral of the story is...well, there ain't no moral, but don't count out the TDs yet.

Do I understand you correctly: do you keep your seeds in water until they crack open? No paper towel? I've only soaked mine a max 24hrs. Maybe that's why some didn't crack. Didn't soak long enough.
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tricka

tricka

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Hey there Serapis im Sub'd and along for the journey as well, i really enjoy the way you write!! i love to learn and help and follow others, after years of outdoor and soil im doing my first indoor ebb+flow and im interested as hell:lol:

im from australia by the waybongsmilie
 
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JimBro

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Makes sense. I wish I had left past seeds that didn't crack for me soaking longer.

The cup winner and a strain Barney's claims a minimum 25% THC. Guess no one can prove that claim wrong if we can't get their damn seeds to crack!

tricka said:
im from australia by the way
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Really? I would have never guessed...what, with the bongaroo and all. Sorry about Steve Irwin. That dude was the shit.
 
tricka

tricka

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JimBro said:
Makes sense. I wish I had left past seeds that didn't crack for me soaking longer.

The cup winner and a strain Barney's claims a minimum 25% THC. Guess no one can prove that claim wrong if we can't get their damn seeds to crack!


Really? I would have never guessed...what, with the bongaroo and all. Sorry about Steve Irwin. That dude was the shit.
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Oh yeah i only changed that a couple of days ago.....so it works :D
im still laughing!
 
Hob10

Hob10

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Hi all

just my 2 cents I soak my seeds distilled water ph 6.3 for 24 hours, if the seeds sink to the bottom they are ready, however some time all of them don't sink due to the shell is to hard form to much heat and or are old, all so one of the hings i have seen is the shape of the seeds, it all so appears if the hole on the seed dose not set in the water it is harder for the seed to soak up the water, one of the thing's i have tryed is i made a small bag screen cloth put my seeds and a small stone so they sink to the bottom then the hole seed is submersed in the water for 24 hours then on to the paper towels, all so temp is real important i personally use 80 degrees it seems hot, but seed bust a nut out of the shell just my two cents.
 
Serapis

Serapis

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When a seed sinks, it means the seed is viable, however, most people that use the soak method let the bean soak until it has a 1/4 inch tap root showing. I have read about people switching from a soak to paper towels after 24 hours, but I only see that on MJ forums. If you scout about other grow sites that do veggies and stuff, they do the soak method just to skim the bad seeds from the top of the water.

As for temp, the jigger has been sitting on top of my seedling mat. It's not hot, it's just a bit warmer than the air that's 74. I just took them off the mat, in case the strain likes a cooler germination. I may have to take a closer look at the genetics in the morning.
 
Serapis

Serapis

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Hi, glad to have ya here Bongaroo!! :) I had several friends from Aussieland when I played Eve Online and joined a corporation. You mates are cool with me!.

tricka said:
Hey there Serapis im Sub'd and along for the journey as well, i really enjoy the way you write!! i love to learn and help and follow others, after years of outdoor and soil im doing my first indoor ebb+flow and im interested as hell:lol:

im from australia by the waybongsmilie
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tricka

tricka

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my pleasure, btw i grow for taste and for my connisuer traits.....how do you find your bubbleicious, im more of an indica man but i love to have my sativa highs as well
 
Serapis

Serapis

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I love Bubblelicious from Nirvana. It's easy to grow and it is LOADED with THC. The buzz is very lethargic. It is couch lock dumb. If you med then go shopping in a Lowes without a list, your going to have a lot of brain dull moments on it. That is why I'm switching over to something like BFTD. I like sativa like buzzes too. I find them to help my creativity when writing and they just perk me up. I have an anxiety disorder, so I have to be wary of which strains I administer. ;)

tricka said:
my pleasure, btw i grow for taste and for my connisuer traits.....how do you find your bubbleicious, im more of an indica man but i love to have my sativa highs as well
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tricka

tricka

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Serapis said:
I love Bubblelicious from Nirvana. It's easy to grow and it is LOADED with THC. The buzz is very lethargic. It is couch lock dumb. If you med then go shopping in a Lowes without a list, your going to have a lot of brain dull moments on it. That is why I'm switching over to something like BFTD. I like sativa like buzzes too. I find them to help my creativity when writing and they just perk me up. I have an anxiety disorder, so I have to be wary of which strains I administer. ;)
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ahh yes the BFTG im sub'd on that grow too :D
i get excited about strain reviews so rep to you! i love to cough lock till my eyes water, sometimes i just wake up, toke, wake up, toke cough drink sleep some more and toke again, ahahaha
sometimes i am a dull moment :D
we have bunnings here in Oz for those times!
 
Serapis

Serapis

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It has just officially passed 3.5 days of soak time. Something is happening, it appears that two of the seeds have cracked, but no tap root is visible as of yet. I'll start watching every other hour or two. I certainly hope to be able to get some of these in their cubes today. While the wait seems extreme, we all share in this hobby together and realize that patience is key. Without it, one will never achieve happiness in a marijuana garden.
 
tricka

tricka

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Great out look on the patience game Serapis! great things come to those who can patiently wait :P
 
Serapis

Serapis

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UPDATE:

We have the first seed to give me root. I was so excited, I had it in a Grodan cube an in the damn propagator before I thought to take the first picture. At 3 days and 21 hours, we have our first TD seed with a tap root. It was more like 1/16th an inch sticking out, but that was enough for me. After 3 days of soaking, I'm not trying to drown the guys.

I'm keeping extra viligence on these remaining 4 seeds. I'm also crossing my fingers for the first one. I'll be naming them in hurricane season fashion, in alphabetical order. I'd like for everyone to please welcome Abbey into our midst. Please keep her in your thoughts and DREAMS.

OK, now we await the next tail....

til then....
 
mcgyversmoke

mcgyversmoke

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took my TD 5 days to crack in a wet paper towel but 4 of 4 cracked, 1 never broke the soil and 1 is retarded lol. im entering the retard in the party cup grow contest lol.
and out of the 2 healthy ones i got a sativa dom and indica dom pheno's, one very spread skinny leaves the other they are fat and overlap.
good luck man!!!
 
Serapis

Serapis

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Thanks!! It appears as though I'll be planting a couple more seeds shortly... two more seem cracked and I see something emerging, but it is still inside the seed.

mcgyversmoke said:
took my TD 5 days to crack in a wet paper towel but 4 of 4 cracked, 1 never broke the soil and 1 is retarded lol. im entering the retard in the party cup grow contest lol.
and out of the 2 healthy ones i got a sativa dom and indica dom pheno's, one very spread skinny leaves the other they are fat and overlap.
good luck man!!!
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